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OMG, people, school is NOT out to make you look stupid

Its there to make you THINK. School rewards this. Its not out to make you look dumb. It wants you to think logically,emotionally, and rationally about all things. Its trying to prepare you for the real world.

Just like the media. Most people assume its out to target stupid people. Its not. Its to make you THINK.


Come on people. Biggrin
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It wants you to follow in line.

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Because it strips you of your Individualism.

And as for the Media. When Gaza was getting Bombed a while back, why didn't the Media do coverage on that? You wanna know why. Because their there to make sure the Public stays inside the Box. They are their to makes sure you don't hear about things that will make you less supportive of the Government.

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Did school tell you that?
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Asder Miller Wrote:Come on people. Biggrin
This convinced me.

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Asder Miller Wrote:Come on people. Biggrin
This convinced me.

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Asder Miller Wrote:Its there to make you THINK. It wants ou to think logically,emotionally, and rationally about all things. Its trying to prepare you for the real world.

Just like the media. Most people assume its out to target stupid people. Its not. Its to make you THINK.

Come on people. Biggrin

It's not that school doesn't encourage learning. It does a very good job of encouraging specific learning. School doesn't teach you how to form thoughts, it gives you the thoughts you need to know for the test. School doesn't teach you how to argue, it teaches you how to listen. School doesn't teach you how to feel, it teaches you what to feel.

Just like the media. Most people assume its out to inform you. Its not. Its to make you THINK your informed.

Come on people.

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Well, of course it doesn't try to make you look stupid. You can't look stupid when most of the world is doing it.


You look stupid being SMART. (Not school-defined 'smart')

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There were times in school where I tangibly FELT my brain cells dying and decomposing. What does that say about your belief in school, Miller?

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The real world? That line made my laugh the fuck out of my lungs, fall off my chair, get back up and puke a little before laughing my ass off again. So we're not living in the real world right now? Then where the fuck are we? The fake world? Think before you write some shitty pro-school nonsense.

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NIGGERS!
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Crow Wrote:The real world? That line made my laugh the fuck out of my lungs, fall off my chair, get back up and puke a little before laughing my ass off again. So we're not living in the real world right now? Then where the fuck are we? The fake world? Think before you write some shitty pro-school nonsense.

Actually you younger folk live in the matrix and once you turn 18 you are automatically ejected and forced to live in a shitty more boring world where you are required to live like everybody else..

Okay I'm bullshitting but your post made me lol.

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Asder Miller Wrote:Come on people. Biggrin

I see what you did thar. Biggrin
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Vatman Wrote:
Asder Miller Wrote:Its there to make you THINK. It wants ou to think logically,emotionally, and rationally about all things. Its trying to prepare you for the real world.

Just like the media. Most people assume its out to target stupid people. Its not. Its to make you THINK.

Come on people. Biggrin

It's not that school doesn't encourage learning. It does a very good job of encouraging specific learning. School doesn't teach you how to form thoughts, it gives you the thoughts you need to know for the test. School doesn't teach you how to argue, it teaches you how to listen. School doesn't teach you how to feel, it teaches you what to feel.

Just like the media. Most people assume its out to inform you. Its not. Its to make you THINK your informed.

Come on people.
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Leon Kinotolian Wrote:There were times in school where I tangibly FELT my brain cells dying and decomposing. What does that say about your belief in school, Miller?
Exactly! School was not set up with an understanding of the brain -- at least not the minds of Myers-Briggs (MBTI) Intuitive types.

In honor of all the lost brain cells, I came up with this:

What words must emerge
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to prove that my time here
is wholly in vain?


Fortunately, many researchers are now investigating the link between learning and the brain. For example, see all the people presenting at this conference: http://www.learningandthebrain.com/Even ... ss/Program

However, I don't see anyone questioning the very structure of school, especially for the minority of students who can't stand learning in the linear, disintegrated manner that traditional school forces on people.

I'm studying neuroscience and psychology and learning (outside of school.) I'd like to figure out how to translate my experience and knowledge into something that can help those who are experiencing the mental death I experienced in school. Everyone tells me I need a college degree to earn a living in this field, but that's the very system that is incompatible with how I learn! And it seems like everyone who hates school grows up and gives up on doing anything about it. :(

Whatever school is out to do, it sure as Hell makes some people look stupid!
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xcriteria Wrote:at least not the minds of Myers-Briggs (MBTI) Intuitive types.
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It's not just intuitives, but it's a clear trend:
viewtopic.php?f=22&t=8927&start=0&view=viewpoll

"Intuitive students must have the big picture, or an integrating framework, to understand a subject. The big picture shows how the subject matter is interrelated."
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Most school makes a true integrating framework impossible. (And this is just the learning aspect.)
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xcriteria Wrote:Myers-Briggs
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I can feel my brain cells "dying" as I sit in the computer instead of going to sleep... oh well.

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The OP has been trained well. He could have a government job as the Minister of Public Enlightenment and PropagandaSecretary of Education.

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I may be a bit late, but he is right, school doesn't try to make you look stupid- it tries making you a sheep.
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Lunatic Wrote:I can feel my brain cells "dying" as I sit in the computer instead of going to sleep... oh well.
Now's your chance to learn how to use your mind, actually learn things, and think for your self. You can do it throughout life, but it gets harder. It's up to you how you use your own time.

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Yes, it is there for a more or less "good" reason. But, where is our Freedom in all of this? Being forced into a building for 8 hours a day, for 5 days every week and for a whole year is NOT freedom. Without Freedom, there is no life.

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Asder Miller Wrote:Its there to make you THINK. School rewards this. Its not out to make you look dumb. It wants you to think logically,emotionally, and rationally about all things. Its trying to prepare you for the real world.

Just like the media. Most people assume its out to target stupid people. Its not. Its to make you THINK.


Come on people. Biggrin

Dude, almost everything you've posted here seems rather pro-school, in my opinion. If you support it, what the hell are you doing on this site?
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Josky Wrote:
Asder Miller Wrote:Its there to make you THINK. School rewards this. Its not out to make you look dumb. It wants you to think logically,emotionally, and rationally about all things. Its trying to prepare you for the real world.

Just like the media. Most people assume its out to target stupid people. Its not. Its to make you THINK.


Come on people. Biggrin

Dude, almost everything you've posted here seems rather pro-school, in my opinion. If you support it, what the hell are you doing on this site?

Obvious troll is not so obvious.
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Most of the people in my school think like him, so he may not be a troll. But if he wasn't a troll, I think he'd be gone by now. Or maybe he's just fascinated by us.

Go to work. Send your kids to school. Follow fashion. Act normal. Walk on the pavement. Watch TV. Save for your old age. Obey the law. Repeat after me: "I am free."

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He never replies to any of our replies, so I detect a whiff of troll. Hrm, smells like... sweat, grease and Cheetos powder.

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Josky Wrote:
Asder Miller Wrote:Its there to make you THINK. School rewards this. Its not out to make you look dumb. It wants you to think logically,emotionally, and rationally about all things. Its trying to prepare you for the real world.

Just like the media. Most people assume its out to target stupid people. Its not. Its to make you THINK.


Come on people. Biggrin

Dude, almost everything you've posted here seems rather pro-school, in my opinion. If you support it, what the hell are you doing on this site?
Speaking my opinion. Don't like it? Too bad! Biggrin
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Josky Wrote:
Asder Miller Wrote:Its there to make you THINK. School rewards this. Its not out to make you look dumb. It wants you to think logically,emotionally, and rationally about all things. Its trying to prepare you for the real world.

Just like the media. Most people assume its out to target stupid people. Its not. Its to make you THINK.


Come on people. Biggrin

Dude, almost everything you've posted here seems rather pro-school, in my opinion. If you support it, what the hell are you doing on this site?

Obvious troll is not so obvious.
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