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How will school make me successful?
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How will school make me successful?
I like school, but there's just a lot of work. I want to be successful in life and financially. But I don't see how school really ties in with helping me financially. I've always thought that we'll never use anything we've learned in school in life. Now that I think about it I can see how understanding Biology can help us understand more about Earth. Algebra can help us manage money. I love learning, but at the same time I don't. I'd like to be smart, I want to learn as much as I can because I know if other people can be smart, why can't I? But I just want to know, I know school can help us more about life, and understand it a little more, but how will it help me financially? My guardians told me going to college shows your employers you have the ability to learn. But I just don't really see how college, or school in general can tie into work to make you successful financially. I mean I can see if you go to college, in most cases I've heard people make more money than the average person. But I've also heard people who have went to college and aren't successful and are still paying off there loans. One of my guardians went to college and they aren't even successful financially. My other guardian quit college. I've always felt like to be successful financially you have to be like a famous movie star, singer, or musician or own a company. You can be successful as like a doctor too. Can someone help me just understand how school can help me financially, please?
But I mean also my teachers, they have a college degree but I feel bad because they say they don't make much. And I think those are the teachers that have been teaching for like three or four years already, but they're really smart.
I want to be good in school. I want to learn a lot. Money has never been something I've thought much about or cared for, but now I'm starting to realize that it is important to be financially successful. When I was younger I would say I didn't want to be rich because I was scared I would be greedy, and now I'm starting to feel like I'm being greedy already wanting to be financially successful. I don't want to be working at a McDonalds.
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RE: How will school make me successful?
I make 40g, have health coverage and a retirement plan, with 10 weeks off in the summer 2 or 3 in the winter and 1 in spring and 1 in fall.
I'm not rich but it beats whatever else I can find.
If you want to be a different fish, you've got to jump out of the school.
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How will school make me successful?
It can't. Definitely not directly.
Indirectly, people generally assume that good grades in school = a good college, and doing well there = getting a highly-paid job... but reality doesn't work that way. Because everyone and their cat is pressured into going to college, it really isn't that big of a deal anymore, and employers are now looking for previous work experience (or specific skills) more than college degrees.
So, you follow all their instructions - do well in school, do well in college, get a fancy degree... and look for a job, and nobody gives a shit because they want you to already have at least 3 years of experience at doing the same kind of job before they will even consider giving you a halfway decent position that counts as "highly paid".
The only way to get there is to start at the bottom and work your way up, getting promoted along the way. OR start your own business. Or both.
Money is a tool. It's a useful thing that can make a lot of other things possible. There's no point in having more of it than you know what to do with, other than some savings for emergencies.
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RE: How will school make me successful?
It depends on what you want to do. You can't practice law or medicine without a degree. Some things have different paths some things don't. Schooling or even education in general isn't the cure all it's made out to be but it can open doors.
If you want to be a different fish, you've got to jump out of the school.
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How will school make me successful?
Yeah, true. There's those things. I was mainly thinking about the things I've actually looked at jobs for, which is pretty much anything to do with computers/websites/programming/design/writing.
So if you already by some chance know what you want to do in life (which is rare), then you'll know if the high school diploma -> college degree route will be useful for you or not.
Either way, there are ways around it. You can get a degree without a high school diploma, but of course it's more complicated than just sticking with school.
In any case, I think all this pressure adults put on young people to decide what to do with their lives, and/or to grind through all this tedious crap just to be able to get a job is pretty ludicrous. In general, the requirements for getting most jobs are stupid.
Want to do X? Learn how to do it from someone who does it. Want to get a job doing X? Demonstrate your skill for X in some way. That makes sense. Spending 12 years in high school and another 3-10 in college doing things completely unrelated to X... that does not make sense.
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How will school make me successful?
Success is complicated and hard to define. You can do things to open more paths but sometimes it may be redundant if the paths are already open. It depends entirely on the individual, their goals, and their abilities(or lack of).
I for one probably intend to drop college because it's wasting my time and money, then start a non-profit to fight the current situation. Some dickwads might have an issue with me being a dropout but who's the one starting businesses and being his own boss? Plus I refuse, on principle, to go through the fucked up system we currently have and I especially refuse bullcrap about "dealing it with" because it's something I have to deal with in my career life.
Hah. Cowardly spineless drones...
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RE: How will school make me successful?
You're a drone no matter what you do.
If you want to be a different fish, you've got to jump out of the school.
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RE: How will school make me successful?
(04-24-2016 10:25 AM)TheCancer Wrote: You're a drone no matter what you do.
Not when I command drones. Then I become the drone king.
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RE: How will school make me successful?
(04-24-2016 04:55 AM)TheCancer Wrote: It depends on what you want to do. You can't practice law or medicine without a degree. Some things have different paths some things don't. Schooling or even education in general isn't the cure all it's made out to be but it can open doors.
Yeah. I'm interested in doing things like making apps, coding, and making graphics. I like making advertisements (I don't know why lol) or just anything you can design in the world of graphics.
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RE: How will school make me successful?
Since you seem the sort who's going to stay in school anyway I recommend studying hard and doing the best you can to learn as much as you can about whatever they're putting in front of you.
If you want to be a different fish, you've got to jump out of the school.
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RE: How will school make me successful?
Not to put you down but if they're things you cant commercialize on, it would be better to do college. College aint bad per se but if you know what you gonna do, have skills, and have the drive for it...then you wont need college as much since you can shape the clay of your future without a degree. I for one dont even forsee a time Ill need my degree.
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How will school make me successful?
Quote:Yeah. I'm interested in doing things like making apps, coding, and making graphics. I like making advertisements (I don't know why lol) or just anything you can design in the world of graphics.
Those are useful things, and there's a lot of potential money in that sort of thing. People are willing to pay large amounts to good designers, and you can do that sort of thing freelance and online.
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It depends on the situation.
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