I found something on the floor at school today

[Milk2Go]

It's something someone wrote for her history class. For the most part, it criticizes the school system.

Quote:[name omitted]
5/27/09
World Civilizations, 1 CP

Big Question #6: What is the greatest obstacle to learning?

Going to school to learn is obstructed by many factors. Firstly, the targeted area of learning is students under age 20. During the first couple of decades in your life, you are still meandering around, trying to find out which pastimes you enjoy and may want to pursue in the future. You may try music, art, dancing, sports, and a whole host of other activities. However, when school takes up so much of your time, it is often difficult to pursue other areas of your life which hold more interest for you. Because young students want to spend more time practicing their hobbies (which they choose for themselves out of desire) they often neglect their schoolwork (which is forced upon them without any interest being necessary). The time restraints that we all find in a 24-hour day mean we must force together our interests and schoolwork, and schoolwork is very often the first forgotten task.

Second, the school system requires us to be in school for more than 7 hours every day. Young children have notoriously short attention spans, and do not do well sitting in a classroom for so much time every day. Recess simply cannot release these energies fully, making children antsy in classes. When their minds wander, they do not learn, creating an obstacle to learning.

And lastly we find yet another problem with our long school day. Even if a student has interest in a subject which they study in school, the forced work that the student must do with the subject when they are in classes every day can bore them to a point where they lose interest in the topic. The pressure put on them by our standard schooling system may make them forget why they loved the subject, so they end up hating it instead. Students who have lost interest in a subject because of pressure are unlikely to pay attention or try hard during class, creating a barrier to learning.

What do you guys think?

[~Mystery~]

Every student at school hates the school system. Its the 'fear' of death that holds them back from openly challenging it.

[S.]

Well written and short piece, but states it well, post it anonymously in a place where many can read in your school, touch it up, get the word out, if a student @ your school wrote it, it will hit harder to your school, just leave out the name of the actual author, but make sure they know it was from in the system.

[Amortisatie]

I wrote something like this for my english teacher, boy was she pissed

Anyway, interesting read, most kids wouldn't have the balls to write something like this and give to a teacher (I assume it was handed in?)

[Reptorian]

The way it criticize the schooling system has been shown throughout decades by observation made by the rebels and teachers who used to be an rebel along with researcher proving that school doesn't work for nearly everybody. Whoever made that should be considered an intelligent rebel that actually knows that the system doesn't work and it could affect the short-term learning in the area of the brain where you attempt to learn while the memory works within the short-term area slowly disappearing as ages flyby making the student inefficient at learning in an certain method which was the goal of the public schooling system as shown by some dude in the past wanting the nation to have working person who don't care for creativity at all and the best way to kill creativity is providing unnecessary boredom by enforcing people to waste the time long enough not to pursue their own creativity needs and free time thus damaging your desire to be interested in the certain subject which will results in people diagnosing you with an learning disability while your brain is changing as you grow older adapting to different method and changing into different method of learning along with the fact that your body changes from child to being an teenager slowly into the habit of working at night and since teenagers are proven to be working better at night and school will put them to work at day, this can cause sleep disturbance, emotional deprivation, hormonal damages and intellectual damages to the front part to the brain all the way to side of the head which deals with writing and creativity. In few cases, this can cause blindness due to the lack of sleep which has been observed in some teenagers that can't deal with the school schedule and it is most likely they won't adapt to 3 hours of sleep which will make them feel abnormal.

[Kitteneater]

Amortisatie Wrote:most kids wouldn't have the balls to write something like this and give to a teacher.

Hah!! I totally wrote something like that and gave it to a teacher!! And I got an A!!! I used this one guy's article as a base for my writing-

Schooling has been a mandatory learning tool implemented in America for about a century. Though curriculum and standards have changed, the basis of the system itself - age- has not. Leon Botstein strongly feels that this contradiction leads to the overall oppression of American students, who are “ready to be taken seriously and to develop motivations and interests that will serve them well in adult life”, by the age of 16. He indicates that the isolation of school inhibits a child’s ability to succeed in his or her pursuits. Botstein further proposes that the school system is “flawed”, and is in dire need of reformation. Could the educational system be outdated? While some believe this notion is radical, others see the truth and pragmatism in it.

Botstein clearly contradicts himself in his theory. Despite lowering the age of graduation, the student would still be subjected to the suppression of the school system’s age segregation and learning process. The author never proposes an alternative to the current way students are taught, but rather, has only suggested an earlier age at which to “become an adult.” Though Botstein uses biological maturity to back up his theory of earlier responsibility, he does not put into account the cognitive maturity it takes to become a fully fledged adult.

However, in order to mature intellectually, children need more time to become attune to their own natural abilities, without the hustle and bustle of school life. Botstein points out, “By the time those who graduate from high school go on to college and realize what really is at stake in becoming an adult, too many opportunities have been lost and too much time has been wasted.” Because there is no time to “figure out” what one’s true aspirations are, money and energy is thrown away paying for a college education concerning a subject the student may or may not be fully interested in. If more time was given to teenagers to think of their own accord, without the pressures of meaningless classes, they would be more aware of their aptitudes and skills. Without the stereotypes of “stupid” high school students, teenagers would be less inclined to act immaturely. Students would no longer be subjected to an environment in which groupings based on age and clique were prominent; teenagers would become more accepting to those of different ages and backgrounds, without bias.

http://english.basd.k12.wi.us/mocarski/ ... tstein.pdf <--Botsteins' original essay

[Amortisatie]

StylizedCarfan1 Wrote:The way it criticize the schooling system has been shown throughout decades by observation made by the rebels and teachers who used to be an rebel along with researcher proving that school doesn't work for nearly everybody
Whoever made that should be considered an intelligent rebel that actually knows that the system doesn't work and it could affect the short-term learning in the area of the brain, where you attempt to learn while the memory works within the short-term area slowly disappearing as ages flyby making the student inefficient at learning in an certain method which was the goal of the public schooling system as shown by some dude in the past wanting the nation to have working person who don't care for creativity at all and the best way to kill creativity is providing unnecessary boredom by enforcing people to waste the time long enough not to pursue their own creativity needs and free time thus damaging your desire to be interested in the certain subject which will results in people diagnosing you with an learning disability while your brain is changing as you grow older adapting to different method and changing into different method of learning along with the fact that your body changes from child to being an teenager slowly into the habit of working at night and since teenagers are proven to be working better at night and school will put them to work at day, this can cause sleep disturbance, emotional deprivation, hormonal damages and intellectual damages to the front part to the brain all the way to side of the head which deals with writing and creativity. In few cases, this can cause blindness due to the lack of sleep which has been observed in some teenagers that can't deal with the school schedule and it is most likely they won't adapt to 3 hours of sleep which will make them feel abnormal.

Id read this but it is just a giant wall of text

[Reptorian]

That is the purpose of having giant text of wall, it for practice (I know I ain't good at english and that why I post it long to practice for other purposes)and to learn with getting other to get an idea from bobman and my post along with researches which probably ain't gonna be happening. What bobman post seems an slight convincive, but I think there should be an lot more information although what he said is proven to be right, people aren't likely to be convinced with lack of background researches involved within it. By background researches, I mean scientific researches.

[grubby]

StylizedCarfan1 Wrote:That is the purpose of having giant text of wall, it for practice (I know I ain't good at english and that why I post it long to practice for other purposes)and to learn with getting other to get an idea from bobman and my post along with researches which probably ain't gonna be happening. What bobman post seems an slight convincive, but I think there should be an lot more information although what he said is proven to be right, people aren't likely to be convinced with information and background researches involved within it. By background researches, I mean scientific researches.

By "giant wall of text," he doesn't mean length, he means that you haven't organized it into paragraphs.

[Reptorian]

It is 4-6 sentences you're seeing there from my own memory, I was only thinking too much for one paragraph and this is my instant thoughts when reading bobman's post ( I do this an whole lot of time). I ain't so sure if it 4-6 sentence you're seeing there and I don't think this computer is helping me spot the periods and the quotes seem to not show the periods where I have placed it on my original post in this computer based from my own observation. Anyways, I'm just here to take an look at people's thoughts of what have other have made. It organizating to 5 paragraphs time when background researches is made at home.

Hope the topic will be back soon.

[S.]

ohh, too lazy to read this whole thread.

[John Tuttle]

StylizedCarfan1 Wrote:The way it criticize the schooling system has been shown throughout decades by observation made by the rebels and teachers who used to be an rebel along with researcher proving that school doesn't work for nearly everybody. Whoever made that should be considered an intelligent rebel that actually knows that the system doesn't work and it could affect the short-term learning in the area of the brain where you attempt to learn while the memory works within the short-term area slowly disappearing as ages flyby making the student inefficient at learning in an certain method which was the goal of the public schooling system as shown by some dude in the past wanting the nation to have working person who don't care for creativity at all and the best way to kill creativity is providing unnecessary boredom by enforcing people to waste the time long enough not to pursue their own creativity needs and free time thus damaging your desire to be interested in the certain subject which will results in people diagnosing you with an learning disability while your brain is changing as you grow older adapting to different method and changing into different method of learning along with the fact that your body changes from child to being an teenager slowly into the habit of working at night and since teenagers are proven to be working better at night and school will put them to work at day, this can cause sleep disturbance, emotional deprivation, hormonal damages and intellectual damages to the front part to the brain all the way to side of the head which deals with writing and creativity. In few cases, this can cause blindness due to the lack of sleep which has been observed in some teenagers that can't deal with the school schedule and it is most likely they won't adapt to 3 hours of sleep which will make them feel abnormal.

Full stop. Ever heard of it?

[Reptorian]

Yes. Better?

The way it criticize the schooling system has been shown throughout decades by observation made by the rebels and teachers who used to be an rebel along with scientific researchers proving that school doesn't work for nearly everybody. Whoever made that should be considered an intelligent rebel that actually knows that the system doesn't work.The schedule, unnecessary work, noise disturbance, and etc could affect the short-term learning in the area of the brain where you attempt to learn while the memory works within the short-term area slowly disappearing as ages flyby making the student inefficient at learning in an certain method which was the goal of the public schooling system as shown by some dude in the past wanting the nation to have working person who don't care for creativity at all. The best way to kill creativity is providing unnecessary boredom by enforcing people to waste the time long enough not to pursue their own creativity needs and free time thus damaging your desire to be interested in the certain subject which will results in people diagnosing you with an learning disability while your brain is changing as you grow older adapting to different method and changing into different method of learning along with the fact that your body changes from child to being an teenager slowly into the habit of working at night and since teenagers are proven to be working better at night and school will put them to work at day, this can cause sleep disturbance, emotional deprivation, hormonal damages and intellectual damages to the front part to the brain all the way to side of the head which deals with writing and creativity. In few cases, this can cause blindness due to the lack of sleep which has been observed in some teenagers that can't deal with the school schedule and it is most likely they won't adapt to 3 hours of sleep which will make them feel abnormal.

[LOON_ATTIC]

Whoever wrote that is awesome.

[Bri]

You found it on the floor? I hope they were able to show it to their teacher before they dropped it. Did it have a grade or any comments?