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To everyone who joined these forums at some point, and got discouraged by the negativity and left after a while (or even got literally scared off): I'm sorry.
I wasn't good enough at encouraging people to be kinder, and removing people who refuse to be kind. Encouraging people is hard, and removing people creates conflict, and I hate conflict... so that's why I wasn't better at it.
I was a very, very sensitive teen. The atmosphere of this forum as it is now, if it had existed in 1996, would probably have upset me far more than it would have helped.
I can handle quite a lot of negativity and even abuse now, but that isn't the point. I want to help people. I want to help the people who need it the most, and I want to help people like the 1996 version of me.
I'm still figuring out the best way to do that, but as it is now, these forums are doing more harm than good, and I can't keep running them.
Thank you to the few people who have tried to understand my point of view so far. I really, really appreciate you guys. You are beautiful people.
Everyone else: If after everything I've said so far, you still don't understand my motivations, I think it's unlikely that you will. We're just too different. Maybe someday in the future it might make sense, but until then, there's no point in arguing about it. I don't have the time or the energy for arguing anymore. I will focus my time and energy on people who support me, and those who need help.
-SoulRiser
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(07-21-2008 05:31 PM)Jonno Wrote: Because I'm a christian, I believe that evil is not following God and evil also comes from God because he gave us free will to do evil. But this isn't the kind of thing you were looking for, was it?
To me, evil is something that can be stretched, if you know what I mean. What's seen evil by us might not be by others. You can minimize or enlarge the circle that is evil as well as the one that is good. It's something that can be viewed by bird's view or by toad's view, as said by Nietzsche. If you're really into it I recommend you reading a book titled ''Beyond Good and Evil'' written by Nietzsche himself. It's really interesting and I'd say it explains the matter pretty well.
The world is a dangerous place. Not because of the people who are evil; but because of the people who don't do anything about it.
(11-16-2011 05:58 AM)DUBAS Wrote: I recommend you reading a book titled ''Beyond Good and Evil'' written by Nietzsche himself. It's really interesting and I'd say it explains the matter pretty well.
(07-22-2008 07:48 AM)Michio-kun Wrote: In regards to your first question, I am not sure. The problems I see with universal Christian morality is (1) the justification of the rules outlined in the Bible are typically "because God said so" and we quickly run into circular reasoning and (2) the unapplicability of Christian morality. The most obvious example are the 10 commandments and just picking one "Don't lie." well, there's a lot of situations where lying is a good thing from a pragmatist's point of view. Although, arguably, it would be more virtuous to stand up always for your ideologies rather than give than up even though others will suffer because of it. Many would argue that suffering (mental and physical) is of no consequence when discussing ethics.
To your second question, I think it was Socrates that said, "The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance." Similarly, I believe it was Plato that said, "Ignorance, the root and stem of all evil." Keep in mind that these were Greek philosophers who were mostly concerned with the age old pursuits of truth...knowledge...happiness...the good life etc. At the core was Plato's philosophy of universals. Cutting to the chase here, I'll just say that Plato believed that the cultivation of knowledge brought one closer to "perfection", "the ultimate good", "the true nature of reality" because he alikened the whole of existence as a shadow of a world that was entirely perfect in every respect. One could even interpret this world as "God".
Something to chew on!
that commandment says "do not bear false witness against your neighbor," not "don't lie. it means don't lie to get someone in trouble
I could tell you how all the commandments are not just "because god said so" if you'd like me to
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(11-25-2011 02:00 PM)Krieg Wrote: I believe money is the root of evil. Money is what makes everyone crazy, it can control and manipulate people...
No, money is just power in a symbol. Evil is acting in ways that are unsympathetic, not kind, and cruel.
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Again, I agree with you. School does teach you things. And once again, you are missing the point entirely. It's not that I disagree with school's mission or the things it teaches. What I object to is that the students are deprived of any choice in the matter. As benign as the intentions may be, any system that forces people into an environment where they have no say in their lives is a situation ripe for abuse of power.
I am Blobthe15, creator of threads that die too quickly.
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The Desert Fox Wrote:Down with Soulriser! It is time for the God of Gods to become the Fallen God of Fallen Gods!
You'll end up like Prometheus, chained to a rock with a bird eating your internal organs.
Or as close as that can be recreated on an internet forum.
(02-08-2012 01:06 PM)Lunatic Wrote: everyone says emo is like a music style or hair stile or clothing or cutting yourself but i think its like a sexuality just like being gay but a different kind of gay just like transexuals you know
Good and evil are make-believe devices based upon subjective perception, and we have no way of measuring them because there are no set standards for measuring them with. Aside from things like empathy or political, but those are subjective and therefore fallible every single time because there is not a truth value in them.
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Dear Tumblrites:Despite your wrongly self-diagnosedPTSD, no line ofscientific evidencesuggests people can be triggered over theinternet. Triggering works through thesenses(i.e. smell, taste, touch, vision, hearing.) but it goes throughreal time; if you're not experiencing it in real life as it'sACTUALLY HAPPENINGin yourACTUALlife, youCANNOTbe triggered. The only exception to this is if you have aseizure, but then again, that's triggered byepilepsy(i.e. rapidly-changing flashing lights)NOT PTSD. Remembering a bad incident is NOT the same thing as having aflashback. When you remember, youthink; when youflashback,youfeel.
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Max Stirnir Wrote:"In the time of spirits thoughts grew till they overtopped my head, whose offspring they yet were; they hovered about me and convulsed me like fever-phantasies -- an awful power. The thoughts had become corporeal on their own account, were ghosts, e. g. God, Emperor, Pope, Fatherland, etc. If I destroy their corporeity, then I take them back into mine, and say: "I alone am corporeal." And now I take the world as what it is to me, as mine, as my property; I refer all to myself."The Ego and Its Own, pg. 15
Charles Manson Wrote:“Look down at me and you see a fool;
look up at me and you see a god;
look straight at me and you see yourself”
HeartofShadows Wrote:"Life is nothing more than a druggie trying to get their quick fix of happiness while dealing with the harsh withdrawal of reality"
Osip Mandelstam Wrote:"I divide all of world literature into authorized and unauthorized works. The former are all trash; the latter--stolen air. I want to spit in the face of every writer who first obtains permission and then writes."The Fourth Prose, 1930.
Lukas Foss Wrote:That is why the analogy of stealing does not work. With a thief, we want to know how much money he stole, and from whom. With the artist it is not how much he took and from whom, but what he did with it.
Evil is often used for propaganda or to describe something someone doesn't like or understand. Good is often used for propaganda or to describe something someone likes.
To me, the only bad thing would be to bring unconsented harm to someone.
(12-19-2011 01:35 PM)zagix Wrote: Fuck good and evil- I'm a sociopath and see such thoughts as idiotic
I thought crazies and sociopaths didn't think/know they were so people saying they are is complete bullshit, no?
We're not all the same, you know.
And "Sociopaths" and "crazies" are NOT the same thing.
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Dear Tumblrites:Despite your wrongly self-diagnosedPTSD, no line ofscientific evidencesuggests people can be triggered over theinternet. Triggering works through thesenses(i.e. smell, taste, touch, vision, hearing.) but it goes throughreal time; if you're not experiencing it in real life as it'sACTUALLY HAPPENINGin yourACTUALlife, youCANNOTbe triggered. The only exception to this is if you have aseizure, but then again, that's triggered byepilepsy(i.e. rapidly-changing flashing lights)NOT PTSD. Remembering a bad incident is NOT the same thing as having aflashback. When you remember, youthink; when youflashback,youfeel.
#HashTagsAreForIdiots
Max Stirnir Wrote:"In the time of spirits thoughts grew till they overtopped my head, whose offspring they yet were; they hovered about me and convulsed me like fever-phantasies -- an awful power. The thoughts had become corporeal on their own account, were ghosts, e. g. God, Emperor, Pope, Fatherland, etc. If I destroy their corporeity, then I take them back into mine, and say: "I alone am corporeal." And now I take the world as what it is to me, as mine, as my property; I refer all to myself."The Ego and Its Own, pg. 15
Charles Manson Wrote:“Look down at me and you see a fool;
look up at me and you see a god;
look straight at me and you see yourself”
HeartofShadows Wrote:"Life is nothing more than a druggie trying to get their quick fix of happiness while dealing with the harsh withdrawal of reality"
Osip Mandelstam Wrote:"I divide all of world literature into authorized and unauthorized works. The former are all trash; the latter--stolen air. I want to spit in the face of every writer who first obtains permission and then writes."The Fourth Prose, 1930.
Lukas Foss Wrote:That is why the analogy of stealing does not work. With a thief, we want to know how much money he stole, and from whom. With the artist it is not how much he took and from whom, but what he did with it.
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