Hypocrisy Thread (Formerly MLP Argument (Formerly This is how schools solve bullying)

[KFC Nyan Cat]

(Source: http://www.equestriadaily.com/2014/03/ki...#idc-cover )

A kid was bullied for being a brony. The school solves it by not letting him bring his Rainbow Dash backpack! I mean really! That's punishing the victim, not getting rid of the bullying problem! He's still a brony, so he'll still get bullied. The bullies already know it. Nothing will be different except THE VICTIM'S first amendment rights are violated.

P.S.: Please don't insert your opinions about MLP, this is not about bronyism, this is about first amendment rights.

[Ky]

Schools blame the victim. So do prisons. Ancient Colosseums. Any slave structure, and that's how it is.

[Username]

That's what you get for being a brony. They did him a favor, perhaps now he will reconsider his obsession with cartoon ponies.

[Ky]

And here I was wondering why Sharpie was on my ignore list. Guess that's where he'll stay.

[Stadium]

lmao sharpie doa cant handle the truth

[James Comey]

Ugh..... prison-like environment creates these kinds of things.....

I swear, I can't wait for the day I'm released from prison. It'll be so surreal....

[Chanku]

If I were him I'd sue the school district for:
Failing to provide a safe environment
Restricting my first amendment rights.

[Yato]

Technically, we aren't "guaranteed our rights as minors". Yet we are supposed to technically own the government. The sweet taste of irony.

[KFC Nyan Cat]

(03-13-2014 07:24 AM)Sharpie Wrote:  That's what you get for being a brony. They did him a favor, perhaps now he will reconsider his obsession with cartoon ponies.

This is a SUPPORT FOURM, GET OUT IF YOU JUST WANT TO SAY BULLYING IS RIGHT IF IT IS ABOUT A CERTAIN SHOW YOU HATE!

[Ky]

Daaang. Remind me not to get on KFC's bad side.

[James Comey]

I've always wanted to go to KFC "on its bad site", whatever that means.

[Night]

Sharpie's just messing around. It wasn't that bad.

You know it's not really as bad at it seems when Night of all people defends someone.

Anyways, stupid school. Victim blaming at its finest. This doesn't solve bullying at all. In fact, it perpetuates it.

Yes, lets make the victim stop using his backpack that'll teach those bullies! No no, it only shows them they "hey, if we make fun of someone, they're the ones that get stuff taken from them!!"

Jesus fucking christ, did they even call these bullies' parents?

Oh an another thing on this poor kid. Way to go school, you are now the bully!! You have taken the side of the bullies in making this kid stop using his fucking backpack! You are now showing this kid that he's not normal. That what he likes is to be hidden away. A secret. Something to be ashamed. Great job, no really, I commend you on making the situation worse.

Oh my god.

What's the principal's email address? I'm contacting him.

edit: idk how to find the principals email, but i did write a post on the facebook page. Hopefully the school officals are reading. Or someone can relay the message.

[James Comey]

http://www.buncombe.k12.nc.us/site/defau...x?PageID=1

Not the exact principal, but you should find the school there.

[Username]

(03-13-2014 10:13 AM)kfcnyancat Wrote:  

(03-13-2014 07:24 AM)Sharpie Wrote:  That's what you get for being a brony. They did him a favor, perhaps now he will reconsider his obsession with cartoon ponies.

This is a SUPPORT FOURM, GET OUT IF YOU JUST WANT TO SAY BULLYING IS RIGHT IF IT IS ABOUT A CERTAIN SHOW YOU HATE!

>Talks about first amendment rights
>yells at me for voicing my opinion
Does it only apply in certain situations or something? I'm confused.


What do you honestly expect schools to do, hover over every suspected bully and make sure they don't hurt your feelings? If you're being bullied then stick up for yourself and take care of business, you can't seriously expect your school to do a damn thing about it.

[Potato]

(03-13-2014 07:24 AM)Sharpie Wrote:  That's what you get for being a brony. They did him a favor, perhaps now he will reconsider his obsession with cartoon ponies.

^this. brony had it coming.

[gore goroth]

(03-13-2014 12:24 PM)Sharpie Wrote:  

(03-13-2014 10:13 AM)kfcnyancat Wrote:  

(03-13-2014 07:24 AM)Sharpie Wrote:  That's what you get for being a brony. They did him a favor, perhaps now he will reconsider his obsession with cartoon ponies.

This is a SUPPORT FOURM, GET OUT IF YOU JUST WANT TO SAY BULLYING IS RIGHT IF IT IS ABOUT A CERTAIN SHOW YOU HATE!

>Talks about first amendment rights
>yells at me for voicing my opinion
Does it only apply in certain situations or something? I'm confused.


What do you honestly expect schools to do, hover over every suspected bully and make sure they don't hurt your feelings? If you're being bullied then stick up for yourself and take care of business, you can't seriously expect your school to do a damn thing about it.

Welcome to SS Sharpie. May I take your orduu?

[Potato]

brony should've been expelled. what kind of a fool wears a brony bag pack to school

[no]

Potato, if you please...
GET! OFF! MY! PLANET!

[gore goroth]

Liking something weird or different is one thing. Flaunting it obnoxiously is another. Whether this is true for this particular case or not, bronies have a terrible reputation of being obnoxious and flaunting their pony love everywhere to the point where it annoys the shit out of everyone. This is why bronies are the most hated fandom on the internet and an easy target for everyone. Not saying the school was right in their decision, but he probably shouldn't have chose to wear that backpack if he couldn't stand up for himself.

Sharpie makes an interesting point here too. You guys are whining about free speech after you said yourselves free speech is bad whenever I mention it. Free speech includes hate speech. And yes sure, you may be safe here in SS, but it doesn't apply in real life. If you have a controversial opinion about something, you HAVE to defend it. A problem with public school is when we get bullied, we are taught to defer to authority and as you guys are learning now authority doesn't do shit. This whole forum has the same mentality despite being a supposed anti-school forum. Stop whining about it and KICK HIS ASS! It's better to be feared than respected, or even better... fear=respect. And if you get suspended, wear that as a badge of honor.

[Gwedin]

(03-13-2014 01:53 PM)gore goroth Wrote:  Liking something weird or different is one thing. Flaunting it obnoxiously is another. Whether this is true for this particular case or not, bronies have a terrible reputation of being obnoxious and flaunting their pony love everywhere to the point where it annoys the shit out of everyone. This is why bronies are the most hated fandom on the internet and an easy target for everyone. Not saying the school was right in their decision, but he probably shouldn't have chose to wear that backpack if he couldn't stand up for himself.

Sharpie makes an interesting point here too. You guys are whining about free speech after you said yourselves free speech is bad whenever I mention it. Free speech includes hate speech. And yes sure, you may be safe here in SS, but it doesn't apply in real life. If you have a controversial opinion about something, you HAVE to defend it. A problem with public school is when we get bullied, we are taught to defer to authority and as you guys are learning now authority doesn't do shit. This whole forum has the same mentality despite being a supposed anti-school forum. Stop whining about it and KICK HIS ASS! It's better to be feared than respected, or even better... fear=respect. And if you get suspended, wear that as a badge of honor.

Not the whole forum... I actually agree with you.

But Potato, you're trying too hard to be edgy. Stahp please. It makes me cry.

[James Comey]

How'd this turn to a brony debate?

How about the school just punish the bullies? Then again, people really could develop tolerance and really stop bullying people over things like a fucking backpack. Jeez, fuck factory model schooling and the mob mentality.

[Username]

A school can do nothing to truly punish a bully. What are they going to do, suspend them? Give them a detention? None of that convinces a bully to stop or rethink their actions.

[James Comey]

^Pretty much. Another reason we need to re-think schooling, and another reason I hate school.

[Potato]

(03-13-2014 01:53 PM)planetfall666 Wrote:  Potato, if you please...
GET! OFF! MY! PLANET!

LOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLL YOU MAD BRO?

[Heil_Kaiba8921]

(03-13-2014 01:53 PM)gore goroth Wrote:  Liking something weird or different is one thing. Flaunting it obnoxiously is another. Whether this is true for this particular case or not, bronies have a terrible reputation of being obnoxious and flaunting their pony love everywhere to the point where it annoys the shit out of everyone. This is why bronies are the most hated fandom on the internet and an easy target for everyone. Not saying the school was right in their decision, but he probably shouldn't have chose to wear that backpack if he couldn't stand up for himself.

Gore, with absolutely no respect at all, you are an idiot. Bronies do not shove their interests in people's faces. All they do is wear things that show other people "Hey, I like this." If you want that to mean "flaunting obnoxiously," then how about people that wear Doctor Who shirts? Are they being obnoxious? What about people who wear Aeropostale? Are they being obnoxious? What about people that only drive Chevy trucks? Are they being obnoxious by driving a vehicle that they like? People like you are the reason people get bullied, you are the kind of person that would start a rumour about someone and not be afraid of them finding out because you can "defend yourself" and then you get all pissy when someone posts about it on the internet.

[Potato]

this is why minors should have all the legal rights and responsibilities of adults, these cases should be resolved according to harassment and bullying laws. the other problem is that the victim doesn't think he has an option to avoid the bullies while he probably does. he probably hasn't looked into virtual schools or homeschooling or dropping out.

[Heil_Kaiba8921]

(03-13-2014 05:18 PM)Potato Wrote:  this is why minors should have all the legal rights and responsibilities of adults, these cases should be resolved according to harassment and bullying laws. the other problem is that the victim doesn't think he has an option to avoid the bullies while he probably does. he probably hasn't looked into virtual schools or homeschooling or dropping out.

So your solution to stop bullying is to only allow bullies to go to an actual school building and make all the others be socially challenged due to not being around any other human beings they aren't related to? Or will we have special schools for bullies and non bullies?

[Potato]

^no, read the first sentence. my solution is to either find a way to isolate the bullies from the victims- put out some restraining orders or place them apart in the school, and if that fails, put the bullies in jail for harassment.

problem is it's not gona happen. so, if you can't deal with bullies, the next option is to avoid them.

[Heil_Kaiba8921]

(03-13-2014 07:50 PM)Potato Wrote:  ^no, read the first sentence. my solution is to either find a way to isolate the bullies from the victims- put out some restraining orders or place them apart in the school, and if that fails, put the bullies in jail for harassment.

problem is it's not gona happen. so, if you can't deal with bullies, the next option is to avoid them.

So what you want to do, essentially, is harm the social development of lots of people by isolating them from others? By putting the bullies in juvy, which you can't do for harassment, you're basically making it so that the "nerds" can fight over who gets to get a drink at a water fountain first, and thus they start bullying eachother. Before you know it, the schools will be empty and the juvies will be full.

I don't think you thought this out too well.

[Potato]

Quote:So what you want to do, essentially, is harm the social development of lots of people by isolating them from others? By putting the bullies in juvy, which you can't do for harassment, you're basically making it so that the "nerds" can fight over who gets to get a drink at a water fountain first, and thus they start bullying eachother. Before you know it, the schools will be empty and the juvies will be full.

I don't think you thought this out too well.

they won't be bullying each other if there were severe penalties for it, that's the whole point. and jail-time is probably is the best penalty for that purpose, unless if you have something better

http://kchafm.com/2014/03/11/osage-man-g...t-assault/