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So me and my dad had a fight over my grades because I didn't do my homework which lasted three hours until he gave up.The next day I'm sick with a stomach virus and he says exact quote "If you agree to do your homework I'll let you stay home and call the hospital for a doctors appointment" mind you I was vomiting every couple minutes and I managed to get him into a rant which ended up with him calling for the doctor and letting me stay home without agreeing. four hours later we're in the checkup room and he asks his doctor if there's any program to "convince" me into liking school and homework and the doctor replied with sending me to live in the mental disability section of the hospital because my thoughts are "abnormal". Now he's threatening to send me there if I dont do my homework, is there anything I can do?
His previous threat was to send me to Taiwan so they put me into army training so I can learn to "respect people with higher authority"
(This post was last modified: 02-26-2013 11:46 AM by brigs1.)
Your father is the one that seems abnormal. Taking advantage of you when you're sick, fighting with you for several hours rather than taking a few minutes to come to a mutual agreement, and threatening to send you to a mental hospital just because he wants to see you brainwashed...those are the actions of a crazy person.
You must do what you feel is right, of course. Whether you continue to resist or decide to cave in for now is entirely up to you.
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Unfortunately if your father does decide to send to a mental hospital there's no stopping it unless you make it look like you're completely normal. Which, by the way, is damn near impossible.
So if you do get sent there here are some helpful tips I've learned.
Hopefully it won't be too bad. Psych wards can actually be pretty fun if you let it be. Just basically fallow the rules, do what you need to do. If you get meds don't deny them, but if you have side effects you can't stand be sure to tell them! Nothing is worse than having shitty side effects. But after you get out it's much easier to tongue them and spit them out later. Find something to pass the time whether it be reading or drawing, writing etc. Some places you can even have a little battery operated radio in your room, some places limit your time with it, but other places if it's your own you can keep it in your room with you. If you get a doctor or therapist you don't like be sure to tell someone. And most importantly, make friends with staff and other people there. I don't mean you have to like the other people, who knows, they may be batshit insane, but don't expose yourself to the possibility of getting in a fight. Fighting, breaking rules, etc. are bad. It definitely equals a longer stay.
Oh and if you're lucky enough to stay in a place where you can lock the bathrooms while your in there, make sure you use the bathroom that actually locks! I had a 40-something year old man walk in on me once. it was weird..
And your dad asked a regular doctor to send you to a mental hospital... not a psychologist? A regular doctor isn't qualified to make decisions like that. Try to find a sensible psychologist instead, maybe you can tell him/her about your dad and hopefully he/she will have the sense to realize you're fine and your dad is acting like a moron.
I also wouldn't be surprised if your stomach issue was related to stress (caused by your dad/school/etc) or something...
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Quote:four hours later we're in the checkup room and he asks his doctor if there's any program to "convince" me into liking school and homework and the doctor replied with sending me to live in the mental disability section of the hospital because my thoughts are "abnormal".
Disliking school is reason to be admitted in to the mental disability section of a hospital? Having thoughts deemed to be abnormal is reason alone to be institutionalized?
Forget the dad, the doctor is the one who's crazy.
Like SoulRiser said, he's in no way qualified to make a decision like that. He's telling your dad to send you to a ward for "abnormal thoughts"? Unless you're trolling us, the man is completely crazy. He shouldn't be going around saying things like that.
(03-08-2013 10:42 AM)Alistoriv Wrote: Forget the dad, the doctor is the one who's crazy.
Like SoulRiser said, he's in no way qualified to make a decision like that. He's telling your dad to send you to a ward for "abnormal thoughts"? Unless you're trolling us, the man is completely crazy. He shouldn't be going around saying things like that.
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"CONSENSUAL incest is not wrong. (Abuse victims: being abused by a relative does not make it wrong for others to have consensual incest, any more than rape by a stranger makes all sex wrong. Sex and assault/molestation are two different things.) An aversion became common in humans that aided in population growth as one disease couldn't wipe out the human race. That's not a problem anymore.
Consensual incest is very common. You know people who have been involved, whether you know it or not.
There is no rational reason for keeping laws or taboos against consensual
incest that is consistently applied to other relationships. Personal disgust or religion is only a reason why one person would not want to personally engage in what I call consanguinamory, not why someone else shouldn't do it. An adult should be free to share love, sex, residence, and marriage with ANY consenting adults. Youthful experimentation between close relatives close in age is not uncommon, and there are more people than you'd think out there who are in lifelong healthy, happy relationships with a close relative. It isn't for everyone, but we're not all going to want to have each others' love lives, now are we? If someone thinks YOUR love life is disgusting, should you be thrown in prison?
Some people try to justify their prejudice against consanguineous sex and
marriage by being part-time eugenicists and saying that such relationships inevitably lead to “mutant” or “deformed” babies. This argument can be refuted on several fronts. 1. Some consanguineous relationships involve only people of the same gender. 2. Not all mixed-gender relationships birth biological children. 3. Most births to consanguineous parents do not produce children with significant birth defects or other genetic problems; while births to other parents do sometimes have birth defects. 4. We don’t prevent other people from marrying or deny them their reproductive rights based on increased odds of passing along a genetic problem or inherited disease. It is true that in general, children born to consanguineous parents have an increased chance of these problems than those born to nonconsanguineous parents, but the odds are still minimal. Unless someone is willing to deny reproductive rights and medical privacy to others and force everyone to take genetic tests and bar carriers and the congenitally disabled and women over 35 from having children, then equal protection principles prevent this from being a justification to bar this freedom of association and freedom to marry.
Some say "Your sibling should not be your lover." That is not a reason. It begs the question. Many people have many relationships that have more than one aspect. Some women say their sister is their best friend. Why can’t their sister be a wife, too?
Some say “There is a power differential.” This applies least of all to siblings or cousins who are close in age, but even where the power differential exists, it is not a justification for denying this freedom to sex or to marry. There is a power differential in just about any relationship, sometimes an enormous power differential. To question if consent is truly possible in these cases is insulting and demeaning.
Some say “There are so many people outside of your family." There are plenty of people within one’s own race, too, but that is no reason to ban interracial marriage. So, this isn't a good reason either. Let consenting adults love each other the way they want!"-Keith Pullman