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RE: Religion

Quote:Yay, pointless arguing!

arguing is good. It propels us forward and sharpens the mind.

Quote:You know what, I'm done with y'all! God exists! End of story!

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Argument_by_assertion

Quote:Disprove it.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof

Quote:OK. God exists and also doesn't exist at the same time. He's God, and therefore does not need to follow logic and whatnot.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absurdity

This is a fire that will just have to burn, soul. You can't put out every fire, and you can't be friends with everyone.

Quote:God doesn't threaten them

You're right, god doesn't threaten anyone. Threatening is a time-waster, instead, he goes right into killing them off.

Quote:The idea of Christianity is not that non-believers go to hell for all eternity

SILENCE, BLASPHEMER!

John 3:18 - "Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God's one and only Son."

Quote:(technically, that isn't even accurate, according to Revelations)

Where in revelations does it say non-believers won't burn for all eternity?

Quote:God doesn't strike down satirists that use his name "in vain" with a bolt of lightning or whatever.

Lightning is overrated. Examples of god's love:

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Examples_of...ing_people

Quote:He's totally benevolent

2 Kings 2:23-24 - "And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head. And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the Lord. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare (KILLED) forty and two (Forty two) children of them."

Killing prepubescents is AWWWWRIGHT...actually, wait...No. NO, ITS NOT ALRIGHT!

Quote:He even gave the choice as to whether to believe in Him or not, and a whole lot of other choices that build up to free will.

Free will does not exist according to the bible;

Jeremiah 10:23
O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Acts 13:48
And as many as were ordained to eternal life believed.

Rom.8:29-30
For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate.... Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.

Rom.9:11-22
For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth. .... For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy. For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth. Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth. Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? ... Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus? Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour? What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction.

Eph.1:4-5
He hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will.

2 Th.2:11-12
God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned.

2 Tim.1:9
Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began.

Jude 4
For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation.

(I don't believe in free will, but mine's a philosophical philosophy, not a religious belief. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_determinism )

Quote:I would open up to him if I can actually know he exists.

Richter Belmont: Die, monster! You don't belong in this world!

Vlad Tepes Dracula: It was not by my hand that I am once again given flesh! I was called here by humans who wish to pay me tribute!

Richter: Tribute? You steal men's souls, and make them your slaves!

Dracula: I suppose the same could be said of all religions...

Richter: Your words are as empty as your soul! Mankind ill needs a savior such as you!

Dracula: What is a man? A miserable little pile of secrets! But enough talk... Have at you!

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