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To everyone who joined these forums at some point, and got discouraged by the negativity and left after a while (or even got literally scared off): I'm sorry.
I wasn't good enough at encouraging people to be kinder, and removing people who refuse to be kind. Encouraging people is hard, and removing people creates conflict, and I hate conflict... so that's why I wasn't better at it.
I was a very, very sensitive teen. The atmosphere of this forum as it is now, if it had existed in 1996, would probably have upset me far more than it would have helped.
I can handle quite a lot of negativity and even abuse now, but that isn't the point. I want to help people. I want to help the people who need it the most, and I want to help people like the 1996 version of me.
I'm still figuring out the best way to do that, but as it is now, these forums are doing more harm than good, and I can't keep running them.
Thank you to the few people who have tried to understand my point of view so far. I really, really appreciate you guys. You are beautiful people.
Everyone else: If after everything I've said so far, you still don't understand my motivations, I think it's unlikely that you will. We're just too different. Maybe someday in the future it might make sense, but until then, there's no point in arguing about it. I don't have the time or the energy for arguing anymore. I will focus my time and energy on people who support me, and those who need help.
-SoulRiser
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Asder Miller Wrote:"If there is no discipline, there is anarchy.
Quote:Discipline: The practice of training people to obey rules or a code of behavior, using punishment to correct disobedience.
Herp, and derp, that's kind of the point of discipline.
Quote:Good citizenship demands attention to responsibilities as well as rights." - Joe Clark
First of all, that quote isn't even original. He didn't come up with the notion that responsibilities are as important as rights. That notion has been around for centuries.
Second of all, what the fuck is "good citizenship"? Fuck being a "good citizen"... I'd rather be my goddamn self, and not an element of the government.
Third of all, and most importantly, SCHOOL SHOULD NOT BE A FUCKING RESPONSIBILITY! The ONLY responsibilities we have to our government is to pay our obligatory taxes and avoid breaking laws. We should not have a responsibility to do anything but those two things... Therefore, in the context this guy is using the quote, which is school, he is fucking wrong. Outside of school, sure, he's right, but he probably assumes a lot of things are our obligations to the government, instead of the two simple things I outlined above.
Absentinsomniac Wrote:Third of all, and most importantly, SCHOOL SHOULD NOT BE A FUCKING RESPONSIBILITY! The ONLY responsibilities we have to our government is to pay our obligatory taxes and avoid breaking laws. We should not have a responsibility to do anything but those two things... Therefore, in the context this guy is using the quote, which is school, he is fucking wrong. Outside of school, sure, he's right, but he probably assumes a lot of things are our obligations to the government, instead of the two simple things I outlined above.
Trust me the main character is just an uppity nigger who yells alot and uses a loud speaker to make kids do what he wants them to do.
Absentinsomniac Wrote:Third of all, and most importantly, SCHOOL SHOULD NOT BE A FUCKING RESPONSIBILITY! The ONLY responsibilities we have to our government is to pay our obligatory taxes and avoid breaking laws. We should not have a responsibility to do anything but those two things... Therefore, in the context this guy is using the quote, which is school, he is fucking wrong. Outside of school, sure, he's right, but he probably assumes a lot of things are our obligations to the government, instead of the two simple things I outlined above.
What is responsibility? A forced burden. It takes away our freedom of choice by forcing us into bondage. There's a word for that, you know..."Slavery."
We don't owe any government any-thing.
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Max Stirnir Wrote:"In the time of spirits thoughts grew till they overtopped my head, whose offspring they yet were; they hovered about me and convulsed me like fever-phantasies -- an awful power. The thoughts had become corporeal on their own account, were ghosts, e. g. God, Emperor, Pope, Fatherland, etc. If I destroy their corporeity, then I take them back into mine, and say: "I alone am corporeal." And now I take the world as what it is to me, as mine, as my property; I refer all to myself."The Ego and Its Own, pg. 15
Charles Manson Wrote:“Look down at me and you see a fool;
look up at me and you see a god;
look straight at me and you see yourself”
HeartofShadows Wrote:"Life is nothing more than a druggie trying to get their quick fix of happiness while dealing with the harsh withdrawal of reality"
Osip Mandelstam Wrote:"I divide all of world literature into authorized and unauthorized works. The former are all trash; the latter--stolen air. I want to spit in the face of every writer who first obtains permission and then writes."The Fourth Prose, 1930.
Lukas Foss Wrote:That is why the analogy of stealing does not work. With a thief, we want to know how much money he stole, and from whom. With the artist it is not how much he took and from whom, but what he did with it.
Absentinsomniac Wrote:The ONLY responsibilities we have to our government is to pay our obligatory taxes and avoid breaking laws. We should not have a responsibility to do anything but those two things... Therefore, in the context this guy is using the quote, which is school, he is fucking wrong. Outside of school, sure, he's right, but he probably assumes a lot of things are our obligations to the government, instead of the two simple things I outlined above.
What about taxes on things we think are fucked up (school, war), and laws that are clearly wrong? (Truancy, software piracy, herp derp...)?
05-19-2011 11:59 AM
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Sociopath Wrote:What is responsibility? A forced burden. It takes away our freedom of choice by forcing us into bondage. There's a word for that, you know..."Slavery."
I'm not advocating government taxes, or laws. I'm just stating the facts. We are, under threat of punishment, required to pay taxes and obey the law. Therefore they are our "responsibilities".
Absentinsomniac Wrote:I'm not advocating government taxes, or laws. I'm just stating the facts. We are, under threat of punishment, required to pay taxes and obey the law. Therefore they are our "responsibilities".
None of us asked for any of it. Its not our responsibility. Its coercive ability.
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05-20-2011 12:11 AM
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Ohmygod you guiz the government knowz whats best for us. Lawz keep us safe, lol. Omg guiyz I can't believe you don't know that.
Go to work. Send your kids to school. Follow fashion. Act normal. Walk on the pavement. Watch TV. Save for your old age. Obey the law. Repeat after me: "I am free."
Lunatic Wrote:BUT SCHOOL IS THE LAW
Just like a lot of other fucking stupid laws.
It's as justified about as much as taxes and laws. Maybe not as much, but meh.
Good point.
I still think school should not be classified a "responsibility" we have to the state though. There's a difference between not robbing someone, and not going to school for 8 hours a day.