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Animation/Graphic design class...55 minuets of something I actually enjoy to do, and sometimes my and my friends spend the entire period playing Counter Strike Source if we're done with our work. Our awesome teacher lets us mess with the computers, and some of us put in our own video cards or whatnot to play stuff like Call of Duty over the school network. Almost everyone in the class collaborates to get around the school's filters and programs, its awesome.
"When government surveillance and intimidation is called "freedom from terrorism" or "liberation from crime," freedom and liberty have become words without meanings." - Deus Ex
I really liked it when chemistry lessons would tangent off into philosophical conversations about the cosmos.
I really liked the theatre.
Those were the only things I really did through the public school, all other stuff was done at home.
But I remember Salon. It was a sort of club that met every other Wednesday. There would be food and the Math teacher hosted it (he was crazy eccentric). People would wander in an out and some people would stay the entire...two to six hours. Sometimes it'd get cut short but usually we stayed until the janitor kicked us out. Sometimes it would be Socrate's Cafe style, where everyone showed up and the conversation just started up randomly. Other times we would have a starting topic (which never ended up being the ending topic) and we would all talk about whatever. "What is the value of art?" "How do we know what's real?" Moral obligations, relationships, love, and things. But the number one rule seemed to be to never take ourselves tooooo seriously. I mean we would talk about string theory, the bible, and which disney princess we considered sexist all in the same hour.
We had a really diverse community. Usually people were intimidated so they didn't always talk at first but most everyone was given respect. There would be arguments but it would be civil. I remember the most heated anything ever got was one of my morman friends on the topic of women dressing scantily. Even if it was their choice, he considered it inconsiderate of them because it had an effect on men and he couldn't understand why women would parade around like some of them choose to do. And the women were all about choice, and he just got really mad about it.
But usually it was chill.
Alas, we moved away and I don't know of any high schools other than that one who host a thing like that.
Happy Camper Wrote:I really liked it when chemistry lessons would tangent off into philosophical conversations about the cosmos.
I really liked the theatre.
Those were the only things I really did through the public school, all other stuff was done at home.
But I remember Salon. It was a sort of club that met every other Wednesday. There would be food and the Math teacher hosted it (he was crazy eccentric). People would wander in an out and some people would stay the entire...two to six hours. Sometimes it'd get cut short but usually we stayed until the janitor kicked us out. Sometimes it would be Socrate's Cafe style, where everyone showed up and the conversation just started up randomly. Other times we would have a starting topic (which never ended up being the ending topic) and we would all talk about whatever. "What is the value of art?" "How do we know what's real?" Moral obligations, relationships, love, and things. But the number one rule seemed to be to never take ourselves tooooo seriously. I mean we would talk about string theory, the bible, and which disney princess we considered sexist all in the same hour.
We had a really diverse community. Usually people were intimidated so they didn't always talk at first but most everyone was given respect. There would be arguments but it would be civil. I remember the most heated anything ever got was one of my morman friends on the topic of women dressing scantily. Even if it was their choice, he considered it inconsiderate of them because it had an effect on men and he couldn't understand why women would parade around like some of them choose to do. And the women were all about choice, and he just got really mad about it.
But usually it was chill.
Alas, we moved away and I don't know of any high schools other than that one who host a thing like that.
That sort of sounds like the big sleepovers my friends and I have. For about two hours, we'd always have this deep conversation, usually right before bed. We talk about god, aliens, bible thumpers, our fucked up lives. Basically everything under the sun.
Having something like that everyday would be win.
Anyway, the only thing I like about school is my Biology class.
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1. History class, when the teacher isn't completely boring and isn't talking about communist economies.
2. German class, even if the teacher is a hairsbreadth close to calling us retarded.
3. Whenever any teacher makes any god damn sense and is not completely retarded, which is seldom, but it's really nice when it happens.
4. Whenever we don't have classes LAWL.
5. My friends, insofar as they can be called friends and not just friendly acquaintances. But I still wouldn't go to school just for them. If I had a choice, that is.
Let go of all desire for the common good, and the good becomes common as grass.
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Good fortune follows upon disaster;
Disaster lurks within good fortune;
Who can say how things will end?
Perhaps there is no end.
- Photography class, because of its overall awesomeness
- History class, because my teacher actually knows what he's talking about
- Math class, because my teacher is a pretty cool guy who is awesome and doesn't afraid of anything
- Chemistry class, because my teacher is a pretty cool guy who is laid-back and plays Xbox and doesn't afraid of anything
- English class, because the class is a complete joke
The fact that it doesn't leave all of its potential untapped, although most of these upsides only apply to good schools.
Just because it's considered misbehavior to socialize there doesn't mean I still didn't get an opportunity to make real friends.
Even though it's not designed to be easy to focus on, on good days I still manage to learn something.
When I already know what they're trying to teach, or more, then I can discuss and participate.
A good school can be something of a refuge from bad parents.
Schools often provide resources like therapy, food, and education that might not be accessible otherwise. (And for that matter, books, paper, and wifi.)
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There were plenty of good things about my school, but every single one of them was marred by one thing or another. Like say, bunking the classes I shouldn't have to attend in the first place.
Getting stress management and introspection tips from a teacher who then caused the same stress she was trying to get us to manage.
Wasting time on a monumental scale, and learning how to cope with boredom in a calm manner.
Tons of psychological tactics that people may use on you, that teachers did use on me, and now I know how to counter them.
And nevermind the 'How to deal with assholes'...
Don't play chess with pigeons-they'll just knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut about like they won anyway.
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To forget!?
"CONSENSUAL incest is not wrong. (Abuse victims: being abused by a relative does not make it wrong for others to have consensual incest, any more than rape by a stranger makes all sex wrong. Sex and assault/molestation are two different things.) An aversion became common in humans that aided in population growth as one disease couldn't wipe out the human race. That's not a problem anymore.
Consensual incest is very common. You know people who have been involved, whether you know it or not.
There is no rational reason for keeping laws or taboos against consensual
incest that is consistently applied to other relationships. Personal disgust or religion is only a reason why one person would not want to personally engage in what I call consanguinamory, not why someone else shouldn't do it. An adult should be free to share love, sex, residence, and marriage with ANY consenting adults. Youthful experimentation between close relatives close in age is not uncommon, and there are more people than you'd think out there who are in lifelong healthy, happy relationships with a close relative. It isn't for everyone, but we're not all going to want to have each others' love lives, now are we? If someone thinks YOUR love life is disgusting, should you be thrown in prison?
Some people try to justify their prejudice against consanguineous sex and
marriage by being part-time eugenicists and saying that such relationships inevitably lead to “mutant” or “deformed” babies. This argument can be refuted on several fronts. 1. Some consanguineous relationships involve only people of the same gender. 2. Not all mixed-gender relationships birth biological children. 3. Most births to consanguineous parents do not produce children with significant birth defects or other genetic problems; while births to other parents do sometimes have birth defects. 4. We don’t prevent other people from marrying or deny them their reproductive rights based on increased odds of passing along a genetic problem or inherited disease. It is true that in general, children born to consanguineous parents have an increased chance of these problems than those born to nonconsanguineous parents, but the odds are still minimal. Unless someone is willing to deny reproductive rights and medical privacy to others and force everyone to take genetic tests and bar carriers and the congenitally disabled and women over 35 from having children, then equal protection principles prevent this from being a justification to bar this freedom of association and freedom to marry.
Some say "Your sibling should not be your lover." That is not a reason. It begs the question. Many people have many relationships that have more than one aspect. Some women say their sister is their best friend. Why can’t their sister be a wife, too?
Some say “There is a power differential.” This applies least of all to siblings or cousins who are close in age, but even where the power differential exists, it is not a justification for denying this freedom to sex or to marry. There is a power differential in just about any relationship, sometimes an enormous power differential. To question if consent is truly possible in these cases is insulting and demeaning.
Some say “There are so many people outside of your family." There are plenty of people within one’s own race, too, but that is no reason to ban interracial marriage. So, this isn't a good reason either. Let consenting adults love each other the way they want!"-Keith Pullman
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