Brainwashing in school?

[Sc00lh8er24]

Bullshit. Support your claims or don't make them.

Show directly how school:

Makes you a television watching labor slave of the government.
Encourages consumerism
Ttly mkes you DUMB RIgHT?

[Elfy]

bg;dr

[Absnt]

Elfy Wrote:bg;dr

What?

[Elfy]

Bad grammar didn't read. :troll:

[Absnt]

Oh, lol.

Also, none of us here are going to start a study on the brainwashing effects of school. We're not fucking scientists. If you can't see that school influences how people think you're fucking retarded.

[SH☮TGUNHEⒶRT]

BRAINWASHING, IS THAT ALL YOU'VE COME TO POINT OUT. YOU GUYS....

[The Desert Fox]

Not sure if should bin.

[Absnt]

The Desert Fox Wrote:Not sure if should bin.

Naw dawg, it's a legitimate question IMO, even if the guy is a troll. Although, it's not a YR related question, so if I were a mod I'd move it to school talk and venting or general talk or something. Oh wait.

Edit: Moved it.

[Elfy]

I'm just wondering how long its going to take until an admin dwells him...

Give mods dwelling powahs.

[Blobthe15]

HAI GUYS LET"S FEED THESE TROLLS AND MAKE EM BIG AND STRONG SO THEY CAN GROW UP TO SUCK MASSIVE COCK?!?!??!?!!!!!!!!

School teach you to give you're childhood up for the sole purpose of getting a job, so you can buy tons of shit you don't need. That would be fine except it's forced. Brainwashing bro.


brain·wash·ing   
[breyn-wosh-ing, -waw-shing]
–noun
1.
a method for systematically changing attitudes or altering beliefs, originated in totalitarian countries, especially through the use of torture, drugs, or psychological-stress techniques.
2.
any method of controlled systematic indoctrination, especially one based on repetition or confusion: brainwashing by TV commercials.
3.
an instance of subjecting or being subjected to such techniques: efforts to halt the brainwashing of captive audiences.

[Sc00lh8er24]

Blobthe15 Wrote:HAI GUYS LET"S FEED THESE TROLLS AND MAKE EM BIG AND STRONG SO THEY CAN GROW UP TO SUCK MASSIVE COCK?!?!??!?!!!!!!!!

School teach you to give you're childhood up for the sole purpose of getting a job, so you can buy tons of shit you don't need. That would be fine except it's forced. Brainwashing bro.


brain·wash·ing   
[breyn-wosh-ing, -waw-shing]
–noun
1.
a method for systematically changing attitudes or altering beliefs, originated in totalitarian countries, especially through the use of torture, drugs, or psychological-stress techniques.
2.
any method of controlled systematic indoctrination, especially one based on repetition or confusion: brainwashing by TV commercials.
3.
an instance of subjecting or being subjected to such techniques: efforts to halt the brainwashing of captive audiences.

I'm not trolling this thread. Let's see some errors with your argument:

"sole purpose of helping you get a job, so you can buy tons of shit you don't need"

How about we follow your method and none of have jobs! We can have food fall out of the air. Face it, all of our jobs are outsourced to China, and a nation can't work is EVERYONE lives on unemployment checks. For you, useless things are:
Food
Shelter
Clean water
etc.

"psychological stress techniques"

Provide specific examples.

"systemic indoctrination"

Provide specific examples

"repetition or confusion"

If you call memorizing the time tables brainwashing, then I agree that school brainwashes you.

[Sc00lh8er24]

Absentinsomniac Wrote:Oh, lol.

Also, none of us here are going to start a study on the brainwashing effects of school. We're not fucking scientists. If you can't see that school influences how people think you're fucking retarded.

"we're not fucking scientists"

If you support your points with a logical fallacy "I am not a scientist, therefore I cannot provide specific supporting evidence" then you are an idiot. I can't take your argument seriously unless you provide some support.

Second of all, something isn't brainwashing you if it influences you. Then the internet, GTA San andreas, drugs, a book, and a car all brainwash you. OOOOH, TAYLOR SWIFT IS BRAINWASHING YOU

Everything influences how you think.

Finally, by brainwashing, I mean systemic perpetration of a message to the point at which it changes a previous thought not through convincing you with argument but instead through constant repetition until you are forced to believe. I'm pretty sure that's what brainwashing actually is by common definition.

IE The soldier at Guantanamo bay was brainwashed that the soldiers were his terrorist friends after they kept talking to him like terrorists while he was locked in his cell after sleep deprivation.

[Absnt]

Quote:Finally, by brainwashing, I mean systemic perpetration of a message to the point at which it changes a previous thought not through convincing you with argument but instead through constant repetition until you are forced to believe. I'm pretty sure that's what brainwashing actually is by common definition.

What previous thoughts? We started the process when we were nearly infants... Also, there are numerous repetitive tasks from the pledge of allegiance, to the way the bell system is set up to make sure we go were we are supposed to go at a certain time, to following our "superiors" orders to the dime no matter what.

And again, to provide DIRECT EVIDENCE I'd have to study a group of unschooled kids and a group of publicly educated kids for years. Fuck that.

[Blobthe15]

Sc00lh8er24 Wrote:

Blobthe15 Wrote:HAI GUYS LET"S FEED THESE TROLLS AND MAKE EM BIG AND STRONG SO THEY CAN GROW UP TO SUCK MASSIVE COCK?!?!??!?!!!!!!!!

School teach you to give you're childhood up for the sole purpose of getting a job, so you can buy tons of shit you don't need. That would be fine except it's forced. Brainwashing bro.


brain·wash·ing   
[breyn-wosh-ing, -waw-shing]
–noun
1.
a method for systematically changing attitudes or altering beliefs, originated in totalitarian countries, especially through the use of torture, drugs, or psychological-stress techniques.
2.
any method of controlled systematic indoctrination, especially one based on repetition or confusion: brainwashing by TV commercials.

You don't need to give up your entire childhood just to get a job, we're in favor of learning naturally not being fucking stupid.
3.
an instance of subjecting or being subjected to such techniques: efforts to halt the brainwashing of captive audiences.

I'm not trolling this thread. Let's see some errors with your argument:

"sole purpose of helping you get a job, so you can buy tons of shit you don't need"

How about we follow your method and none of have jobs! We can have food fall out of the air. Face it, all of our jobs are outsourced to China, and a nation can't work is EVERYONE lives on unemployment checks. For you, useless things are:
Food
Shelter
Clean water
etc.

"psychological stress techniques"

Provide specific examples.

"systemic indoctrination"

Provide specific examples

"repetition or confusion"

If you call memorizing the time tables brainwashing, then I agree that school brainwashes you.

http://www.jesus-is-lord.com/schoolpr.htm
http://www.fitz-claridge.com/?q=node/20

You know what's confusing, that we study topics that are completely unrelated to my life atleast at it's current stage, and only offers a vague description of what I might get with little evidence that I might actually get that.

Repetition? Spending every Monday through Friday, getting up, getting ready, going to school, going in at the exact same time every day. Then going to (as based off of last year) I go to a math "lab" for 1 hour, Then at precisely 9:00, a bell rings, and I go to another Math class. Another hour of almost no talking, and then another bell rings and I go to another room, either I go to gym, art, building skills, or music. Then another fucking bell rings, and I go to lunch, and then a short recess. Then I go to Social studies, BELL, Then I go to Language arts, BELL, and then I go to Science, BELL, and then I go to some sort of ending class, and 11 minutes later another fucking bell.

Just the bell screams repetition

Systemic Indoctrination

sys·tem·ic
   [si-stem-ik] Show IPA
–adjective
1.of or pertaining to a system.
2.Physiology, Pathology .
a.pertaining to or affecting the body as a whole.
b.pertaining to or affecting a particular body system.
3.(of a pesticide) absorbed and circulated by a plant or other organism so as to be lethal to pests that feed on it.

Well it's systemic alright, there's a system which you go through.

Definition of INDOCTRINATE
transitive verb
1: to instruct especially in fundamentals or rudiments : teach
2: to imbue with a usually partisan or sectarian opinion, point of view, or principle

Well we'll have to figure out what fundamentals mean first.

fun·da·men·tal
   [fuhn-duh-men-tl] Show IPA
–adjective
1.
serving as, or being an essential part of, a foundation or basis; basic; underlying: fundamental principles; the fundamental structure.
2.
of, pertaining to, or affecting the foundation or basis: a fundamental revision.
3.
being an original or primary source: a fundamental idea.

Well they're systematically teaching foundation of getting a job and "knowledge"

[Crow]

Schoolh8ter, or however the fuck I'm supposed to spell it. Take a look at my thread, it's on the same damn page as yours and it answers your question viewtopic.php?f=19&t=30088

[Rosemary16]

Teachers only brainwash kids so that they love school.

[Phrozen_Soul]

I think we scared off the troll with big definitions and words. Hooray for expanded grammar!

[Sc00lh8er24]

Lolwut? Big words?

I just conceded. Fine, school brainwashes you

[Phrozen_Soul]

Sc00lh8er24 Wrote:Lolwut? Big words?

I just conceded. Fine, school brainwashes you

As long as we're in agreement.