Starting Game Development Team

[Efs]

I'm learning game design. Both animation, modelling and programming. I'm not a pro, atm I can only make games like Pong, Space Invaders etc. But if anyone is interested we can start a genre, story and choosing a game engine like Unreal (for FPS's) or Unity etc. I guess it's not really a team, it's more of a group where we can learn how to develop. Obviously we're not going to make an AAA title and win dah monehz, this is just for fun and if it goes well, possibly a good career choice. So...anyone interested in developing?

Update 2/4/2012
So I ressurect this thread. Most likely doing an FPS. Aiming for Windows platform, though compatibility with PS3 and Linux is a bonus. Dun give shits about mac and xbox huehueh
Anyway, I've chosen 7 engines. Vote on your preferred one to begin.

SS Studio's (name? lol) Game Dev Team:
Team Leader/Fuhrer: Efs
3d Artists:
Concept Artists:
Programmers and Scripters:
3d Animators:
Level and other designers:
Music: Efs + a friend of Efs.
I'll be doing a bit of every role.

[robexib]

Eh, fuck it, I can spin a good yarn.

If you need a story, tell me. I can write a basic premise and work from there.

[Faby]

Haha, lol.

Everyone thinks they can be good at game design by dint of having played computer games and reading fantasy books.

Do yourself a favour and practise more on your own.

[fish20]

Me.

[robexib]

Faby Wrote:Haha, lol.

Everyone thinks they can be good at game design by dint of having played computer games and reading fantasy books.

Do yourself a favour and practise more on your own.

Fine and dandy, but it's also good to practice WITHIN A GROUP, as that is what most develop teams work in, GROUPS.

[psychopath]

Over the internet with randoms you don't even know? Is that how it's usually done? What if they steal your work?

[Faby]

psychopath Wrote:Over the internet with randoms you don't even know? Is that how it's usually done? What if they steal your work?

Do you think any of their work is worth stealing?

[Efs]

Faby Wrote:

psychopath Wrote:Over the internet with randoms you don't even know? Is that how it's usually done? What if they steal your work?

Do you think any of their work is worth stealing?

Exactly, our work isn't worth stealing. And even if they did, I'll prove somehow it's our work

It's more of a group than a team, we just discuss stuff, help each other out and learn the basis. Where can we discuss? Should I make a chat channel or a facebook group or something?

[fish20]

Efstratios Prime Wrote:

Faby Wrote:

psychopath Wrote:Over the internet with randoms you don't even know? Is that how it's usually done? What if they steal your work?

Do you think any of their work is worth stealing?

Exactly, our work isn't worth stealing. And even if they did, I'll prove somehow it's our work

It's more of a group than a team, we just discuss stuff, help each other out and learn the basis. Where can we discuss? Should I make a chat channel or something?

Yes.

[aaaaaaasd]

Hey guys guys guys hire me I was only born yesterday but I have 20 years programming experience in FPS Creator hire meeeeeeeeee

[Phrozen_Soul]

In a while i'll be able to do simple stuff but Corbin and Cody are doing most of the programming right now.

[Efs]

Instead of making a new thread I'll just use this.
If you're interested, it took me 4 months to pick a game engine, and we're going to be using the CryEngine.
Designers: CryEngine
3d Artists: Blender, Maya, 3ds max and/or Ogre3d.
Programmers: C++ or Lua, Visual Studio 2008 or 2010 C++ or Ulti.
Sound Designers: Ableton or FL Studio with Audacity.

Anyone interested in joining the SS GameDev team? I don't know how this is going to work, I'm not a genius at this shit but I'm learning. You guys probably know more than me lol
I'm interesting in doing FPS', RPG's..pretty much anything...

[LOON_ATTIC]

I used to be good at blender... meh. I could re learn it I guess.

Let's make an FPS where we invade a WWASP teenage camp and fight against the guvmint and shit :|

[Efs]

(11-27-2011 06:22 PM)Lunatic Wrote:  I used to be good at blender... meh. I could re learn it I guess.

Let's make an FPS where we invade a WWASP teenage camp and fight against the guvmint and shit :|

I have Blender, Maya and 3DS Max, so I don't care which one you guys use. I like Blender because it's open source and has a great dev community. I'm not sure how it works with games though, but it's definitely an option for me - or us. What do you think of it in comparison to 3ds/Maya?

Expanding on your idea. How about an RPG FPS/Third Person (like Elder Scrolls but modern)? We can make the main plot about revolution of some authoritarian government. And we can do one level (since this is SS and all...) where you go to a school and shoot every Nazi teacher down.
Once again, that's if we actually DO something lol

EDIT: Anyone who wants to join this project, even if you're a newb and are interested in helping out or are just learning and want to join a project for some experience, then download CryEngine 3 SDK and register on CryDev. Think of a team name so I can register our GameDev team on CryDev.Net

[fish20]

(11-27-2011 06:38 PM)Efs Wrote:  

(11-27-2011 06:22 PM)Lunatic Wrote:  I used to be good at blender... meh. I could re learn it I guess.

Let's make an FPS where we invade a WWASP teenage camp and fight against the guvmint and shit :|

I have Blender, Maya and 3DS Max, so I don't care which one you guys use. I like Blender because it's open source and has a great dev community. I'm not sure how it works with games though, but it's definitely an option for me - or us. What do you think of it in comparison to 3ds/Maya?

Expanding on your idea. How about an RPG FPS/Third Person (like Elder Scrolls but modern)? We can make the main plot about revolution of some authoritarian government. And we can do one level (since this is SS and all...) where you go to a school and shoot every Nazi teacher down.
Once again, that's if we actually DO something lol

EDIT: Anyone who wants to join this project, even if you're a newb and are interested in helping out or are just learning and want to join a project for some experience, then download CryEngine 3 SDK and register on CryDev. Think of a team name so I can register our GameDev team on CryDev.Net

I've made a few games before (kinda sucky but still), and failed at making several, so maybe I can help out.

I've also used a little bit of Fruity Loops and Audacity before.

Also, in my experience, you should NOT start with complicated projects (Like an open world rpg) if you never made anything. So instead of making an open world game like that, we should start with a dungeon crawl, or something simple.

Crytek seems to favor 3DS Max for the Cryengine: http://www.crydev.net/newspage.php?news=79227

[SoulRiser]

I had a pretty elaborate game idea I wrote down some time ago. I would love to play a game like this, but I don't think anything quite like it exists...

I typed it out without bothering about grammar and whatnot, so deal with it:

Hidden stuff:

kinda like a cross between C&C and jagged alliance and diablo and tower defense and dungeon keeper, with some ideas from those sport team manager type games thrown in.

scenario: aliens take over your home planet. you have a small base and you need to build it up again and slowly take the planet back from the aliens. they will continue to attack your bases (yes bases, because this is a whole planet - areas can work similar to jagged alliance where it's like seperate blocks that are part of a bigger whole). each block functions like a RTS map, like C&C. but each block is part of a larger whole, so once you 'win' that block, your base still stays there and can still be invaded while your attention is elsewhere in the world.

each of ur units has experience levels and a unique name, much like jagged alliance & diablo... or hero units in warcraft... and they can have different skills and stuffs. you can train them at your HQ, kinda like dungeon keeper. but you need to transport them from place to place, none of that 'build a barracks and spawn troops out of nowhere' nonsense.

and once you've taken over the world, you can still do skirmish type things, possibly multiplayer type thing, where one person builds a base and the other person tries to destroy it. tower defense style... xept you use the units that you've leveled up while taking over the world in SP. and they still get more xp from the skirmishes. so it's kinda like those sport manager games... train units and compete in games with them.

i guess it doesn't have to be a whole planet... small country could work too.

Do whatever you want with that... or nothing at all.

[Efs]

That actually sounds like a good idea Soul. But are you saying that all the bases are being controlled by the player at one time? Or at separate levels?

EDIT:

(11-27-2011 07:49 PM)fish20 Wrote:  

(11-27-2011 06:38 PM)Efs Wrote:  

(11-27-2011 06:22 PM)Lunatic Wrote:  I used to be good at blender... meh. I could re learn it I guess.

Let's make an FPS where we invade a WWASP teenage camp and fight against the guvmint and shit :|

I have Blender, Maya and 3DS Max, so I don't care which one you guys use. I like Blender because it's open source and has a great dev community. I'm not sure how it works with games though, but it's definitely an option for me - or us. What do you think of it in comparison to 3ds/Maya?

Expanding on your idea. How about an RPG FPS/Third Person (like Elder Scrolls but modern)? We can make the main plot about revolution of some authoritarian government. And we can do one level (since this is SS and all...) where you go to a school and shoot every Nazi teacher down.
Once again, that's if we actually DO something lol

EDIT: Anyone who wants to join this project, even if you're a newb and are interested in helping out or are just learning and want to join a project for some experience, then download CryEngine 3 SDK and register on CryDev. Think of a team name so I can register our GameDev team on CryDev.Net

I've made a few games before (kinda sucky but still), and failed at making several, so maybe I can help out.

I've also used a little bit of Fruity Loops and Audacity before.

Also, in my experience, you should NOT start with complicated projects (Like an open world rpg) if you never made anything. So instead of making an open world game like that, we should start with a dungeon crawl, or something simple.

Crytek seems to favor 3DS Max for the Cryengine: http://www.crydev.net/newspage.php?news=79227

I can use 3ds max. Should I use Maya? Apparently that's more for detailed art, but it takes longer to work with for games. Or I have blender. What about a simple FPS with a small island or a building as a level? Just some enemies with simple triggers and simple AI (for our first project).

[SoulRiser]

Quote:But are you saying that all the bases are being controlled by the player at one time? Or at separate levels?

Both? ... sort of. Have you ever played Jagged Alliance 2? It's like a whole country divided into little blocks, each block is a level... you can't build anything, but you can only have battles in one block at a time.

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Oh also, I messed about with this game engine a bit around the same time I was planning that game idea:
http://springrts.com/
It's pretty cool.

[Efs]

(11-27-2011 09:26 PM)SoulRiser Wrote:  

Quote:But are you saying that all the bases are being controlled by the player at one time? Or at separate levels?

Both? ... sort of. Have you ever played Jagged Alliance 2? It's like a whole country divided into little blocks, each block is a level... you can't build anything, but you can only have battles in one block at a time.

---

Oh also, I messed about with this game engine a bit around the same time I was planning that game idea:
http://springrts.com/
It's pretty cool.

Hmm that engine looks alright. I wonder if I can make a good RTS on CryEngine...

I've only seen screenshots on Jagged Alliance 2 but I think I know what you mean.

[Blobthe15]

inb4 this crashes and fails

I'm not saying don't try, I'm just saying give yourself something easy to do. Find a way to test people's skills before you just go all out.

Code:

#include <stdio.h>

int main()
{
    y = Gamedevelopmentskills;
    x = Difficulty;

    if (Y + 1 == X)
    {
        Y++
    }
    else
        {
            Printf("You fucking quit");
        }
    Return 0;
}

This won't compile. You would need to give x and y a value

[LOON_ATTIC]

(11-27-2011 06:38 PM)Efs Wrote:  

(11-27-2011 06:22 PM)Lunatic Wrote:  I used to be good at blender... meh. I could re learn it I guess.

Let's make an FPS where we invade a WWASP teenage camp and fight against the guvmint and shit :|

I have Blender, Maya and 3DS Max, so I don't care which one you guys use. I like Blender because it's open source and has a great dev community. I'm not sure how it works with games though, but it's definitely an option for me - or us. What do you think of it in comparison to 3ds/Maya?

If it has decent exporting scripts compatible with CryEngine with support for animations and such then it should just work.

[Efs]

(11-28-2011 08:14 AM)Lunatic Wrote:  

(11-27-2011 06:38 PM)Efs Wrote:  

(11-27-2011 06:22 PM)Lunatic Wrote:  I used to be good at blender... meh. I could re learn it I guess.

Let's make an FPS where we invade a WWASP teenage camp and fight against the guvmint and shit :|

I have Blender, Maya and 3DS Max, so I don't care which one you guys use. I like Blender because it's open source and has a great dev community. I'm not sure how it works with games though, but it's definitely an option for me - or us. What do you think of it in comparison to 3ds/Maya?

If it has decent exporting scripts compatible with CryEngine with support for animations and such then it should just work.

I'll look into it. I have lots of software to use, I just want to learn how to use them. Unfortunately I have exams, so I don't have a lot of time atm.

(11-28-2011 06:14 AM)Blobthe15 Wrote:  inb4 this crashes and fails

I'm not saying don't try, I'm just saying give yourself something easy to do. Find a way to test people's skills before you just go all out.

Code:

#include <stdio.h>

int main()
{
    y = Gamedevelopmentskills;
    x = Difficulty;

    if (Y + 1 == X)
    {
        Y++
    }
    else
        {
            Printf("You fucking quit");
        }
    Return 0;
}

This won't compile. You would need to give x and y a value

smartass lol

And we'll be starting on a small project. But I dunno what do you guys feel like making - seriously, a small 3d project. Artists can design a room and a basic low poly model for the enemy. I don't know what programmers can do, since I already have the engine...unless a programmer wants to use the engine to trigger events....but that would be scripting I guess. And sound designers (like me ) will make the intro music loop and HOLY FUCK I'M USING VOCALOID FOR ENEMY FEMALE AI'S VOICE. I'll stick to Ableton for now...

[fish20]

We should have design document. Since you are leading the project you should start it, or someone else could, and then they could sent it to someone else and they could change things, until we have a final version. Or we could just have a chat room and we could discuss and just put it into a document.

INFO:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_design_document
TEMPLATE:
http://www-personal.engin.umd.umich.edu/...mplate.doc

[Liquid]

Isn't CryEngine's license proprietary??? How much would you have to pay to use it?

[LOON_ATTIC]

How about something like ogre 3D so it's more open source/cross platform?... though then it'd most definitely need shittons moar programming and work, especially if you want decent graphics. Ogre 3D is only a rendering engine, and it seems to be a bit stuck in the past, maybe...
Unreal Engine is another option, too. Do you have to pay for CryEngine if you're using it for a non-commercial project? You don't for Unreal Engine.

[fish20]

(11-29-2011 11:03 AM)Lunatic Wrote:  How about something like ogre 3D so it's more open source/cross platform?... though then it'd most definitely need shittons moar programming and work, especially if you want decent graphics. Ogre 3D is only a rendering engine, and it seems to be a bit stuck in the past, maybe...
Unreal Engine is another option, too. Do you have to pay for CryEngine if you're using it for a non-commercial project? You don't for Unreal Engine.

there is Unity, it seems pretty easy to use:
http://unity3d.com/

[Efs]

(11-29-2011 11:03 AM)Lunatic Wrote:  How about something like ogre 3D so it's more open source/cross platform?... though then it'd most definitely need shittons moar programming and work, especially if you want decent graphics. Ogre 3D is only a rendering engine, and it seems to be a bit stuck in the past, maybe...
Unreal Engine is another option, too. Do you have to pay for CryEngine if you're using it for a non-commercial project? You don't for Unreal Engine.

I was looking at Ogre3D but wouldn't that be harder since it's just a graphics library which requires me to use Visual Studio C++ to make an engine? Nah, CryEngine is just like UDK, but you pay for a license if you want to go commercial.

(11-29-2011 07:33 AM)Liquid Wrote:  Isn't CryEngine's license proprietary??? How much would you have to pay to use it?

Sort of, it's free to use. But once you go commercial and sell your game you must pay for a license.

(11-29-2011 07:23 AM)fish20 Wrote:  We should have design document. Since you are leading the project you should start it, or someone else could, and then they could sent it to someone else and they could change things, until we have a final version. Or we could just have a chat room and we could discuss and just put it into a document.

INFO:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_design_document
TEMPLATE:
http://www-personal.engin.umd.umich.edu/...mplate.doc

I'm happy making the design document, but I just want to say I've never done anything like this before. So I just want to get your opinions before I dive in. Thanks for the link though, I'll start on a template!

(11-29-2011 12:41 PM)fish20 Wrote:  

(11-29-2011 11:03 AM)Lunatic Wrote:  How about something like ogre 3D so it's more open source/cross platform?... though then it'd most definitely need shittons moar programming and work, especially if you want decent graphics. Ogre 3D is only a rendering engine, and it seems to be a bit stuck in the past, maybe...
Unreal Engine is another option, too. Do you have to pay for CryEngine if you're using it for a non-commercial project? You don't for Unreal Engine.

there is Unity, it seems pretty easy to use:
http://unity3d.com/

I also have Unity. I actually spent hours and hours (I still do) trying to decide which engine to use out of UDK, CryEngine and Unity.

So do you guys want to use UDK or Unity or stay with CryEngine? I have all three and I don't really mind. We can make a small game on each engine to see what each can do.

[fish20]

Quote:I also have Unity. I actually spent hours and hours (I still do) trying to decide which engine to use out of UDK, CryEngine and Unity.

So do you guys want to use UDK or Unity or stay with CryEngine? I have all three and I don't really mind. We can make a small game on each engine to see what each can do.

We should go with cryengine first since I already registered.

[Efs]

(11-29-2011 04:05 PM)fish20 Wrote:  

Quote:I also have Unity. I actually spent hours and hours (I still do) trying to decide which engine to use out of UDK, CryEngine and Unity.

So do you guys want to use UDK or Unity or stay with CryEngine? I have all three and I don't really mind. We can make a small game on each engine to see what each can do.

We should go with cryengine first since I already registered.

Yeah I agree lol
I have UDK (Unreal Engine) but it's having problems on my computer, which is weird because the old version worked fine....
And Unity is good but compared to CryEngine I see it as more professional, I know it's a stupid reason. But I have CryEngine AND Unity, so I just go with CryEngine.
CryEngine it is then fellas! I'll get working on some shit. You guys can just learn the program or do nothing, I don't mind. But soon we'll get some shit done. I'll try and get a website.

[LOON_ATTIC]

Seems like Blender would be a pretty damn good choice for modeling for CryEngine, plus it's much more developed and stuff nowadays. And it's what I sort of know how to use so... maybe, just maybe I'll be able to do something with it.
http://www.crydev.net/wiki/index.php/Exp...om_Blender
http://www.blendernation.com/2011/09/01/...-free-sdk/
Lol if we actually did something decent and made money from it. Though it'd most likely be too offensive for most people.