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I wondered how many people have autism on here. Time to put my speculations to rest.
The people who have autism that I know of currently:
(Ignore any misspellings, I'll update this list)
Missile
Hansgrohe
Subb
Trekkie_Aspie
Neue
JenniMiller
Diknot5
Sociopath
No
SchoolSux
We can't be proud not to have autism?
I call discrimination!
Serious note, I don't believe I have autism. I might be eccentric and a bit of a megalomania...but in healthy doses ya know. I mean Stalin went from farm boy dreaming of becoming a priest to paranoid dictator of the mighty USSR!
Yeah, I have high functioning autism. It's fine. Can't really picture life without it, but I could really use some social skills. I can't even function in larger groups.
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I'd suggest updating the poll (you can edit it), to say something like "autism spectrum," since "autism" by itself might be interpreted as more specific.
You might also consider adding a third option, like, "Not sure / maybe / a bit," but up to you. Personally, I've explored the autism spectrum before as an explanation for my differences, and maybe there's something to that, but I wouldn't say "I have autism."
I wanted to this poll for people who actually have autism, I didn't add the third option because I don't want the self-diagnosed people who may not have it. (Although they are likely to click the "yes I do option anyway"
I have difficulty memorizing crap, and I seem to emotionally and socially incompetent. I don't see the big deal in being autistic as I perceive the world in different ways.
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For anyone who remembers me going on an archive binge: Thank you all. I know I ended it being a drama queen, I don't really agree with the ideology anymore, and I'm really not the same person I was (I went through a neopagan phase!) but still this site was the first online community I was in. I graduated from school and turned 18. Time flies. KFC Nyan Cat, June 20, 2019.
02-11-2015 04:35 AM
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(02-11-2015 11:56 PM)Jop Wrote: Got any proof that it does exist?
You're trolling us right? Doing a quick google search would give you all the answer you need.
As a side note, Missle, you can add me to that list.
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Dear Tumblrites:Despite your wrongly self-diagnosedPTSD, no line ofscientific evidencesuggests people can be triggered over theinternet. Triggering works through thesenses(i.e. smell, taste, touch, vision, hearing.) but it goes throughreal time; if you're not experiencing it in real life as it'sACTUALLY HAPPENINGin yourACTUALlife, youCANNOTbe triggered. The only exception to this is if you have aseizure, but then again, that's triggered byepilepsy(i.e. rapidly-changing flashing lights)NOT PTSD. Remembering a bad incident is NOT the same thing as having aflashback. When you remember, youthink; when youflashback,youfeel.
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Max Stirnir Wrote:"In the time of spirits thoughts grew till they overtopped my head, whose offspring they yet were; they hovered about me and convulsed me like fever-phantasies -- an awful power. The thoughts had become corporeal on their own account, were ghosts, e. g. God, Emperor, Pope, Fatherland, etc. If I destroy their corporeity, then I take them back into mine, and say: "I alone am corporeal." And now I take the world as what it is to me, as mine, as my property; I refer all to myself."The Ego and Its Own, pg. 15
Charles Manson Wrote:“Look down at me and you see a fool;
look up at me and you see a god;
look straight at me and you see yourself”
HeartofShadows Wrote:"Life is nothing more than a druggie trying to get their quick fix of happiness while dealing with the harsh withdrawal of reality"
Osip Mandelstam Wrote:"I divide all of world literature into authorized and unauthorized works. The former are all trash; the latter--stolen air. I want to spit in the face of every writer who first obtains permission and then writes."The Fourth Prose, 1930.
Lukas Foss Wrote:That is why the analogy of stealing does not work. With a thief, we want to know how much money he stole, and from whom. With the artist it is not how much he took and from whom, but what he did with it.
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Dear Tumblrites:Despite your wrongly self-diagnosedPTSD, no line ofscientific evidencesuggests people can be triggered over theinternet. Triggering works through thesenses(i.e. smell, taste, touch, vision, hearing.) but it goes throughreal time; if you're not experiencing it in real life as it'sACTUALLY HAPPENINGin yourACTUALlife, youCANNOTbe triggered. The only exception to this is if you have aseizure, but then again, that's triggered byepilepsy(i.e. rapidly-changing flashing lights)NOT PTSD. Remembering a bad incident is NOT the same thing as having aflashback. When you remember, youthink; when youflashback,youfeel.
#HashTagsAreForIdiots
Max Stirnir Wrote:"In the time of spirits thoughts grew till they overtopped my head, whose offspring they yet were; they hovered about me and convulsed me like fever-phantasies -- an awful power. The thoughts had become corporeal on their own account, were ghosts, e. g. God, Emperor, Pope, Fatherland, etc. If I destroy their corporeity, then I take them back into mine, and say: "I alone am corporeal." And now I take the world as what it is to me, as mine, as my property; I refer all to myself."The Ego and Its Own, pg. 15
Charles Manson Wrote:“Look down at me and you see a fool;
look up at me and you see a god;
look straight at me and you see yourself”
HeartofShadows Wrote:"Life is nothing more than a druggie trying to get their quick fix of happiness while dealing with the harsh withdrawal of reality"
Osip Mandelstam Wrote:"I divide all of world literature into authorized and unauthorized works. The former are all trash; the latter--stolen air. I want to spit in the face of every writer who first obtains permission and then writes."The Fourth Prose, 1930.
Lukas Foss Wrote:That is why the analogy of stealing does not work. With a thief, we want to know how much money he stole, and from whom. With the artist it is not how much he took and from whom, but what he did with it.
beat multiple people I know who are actually diagnosed with some variant of autism, one of whom told me that I might have autism. and I exhibit some of the outward symptoms of the disorder, like stimming, noticeable tics (which have been more cause of concern in and of themselves than any prospect of being autism spectrum, and it's currently diagnosed as a disorder on its own in my case), exceptional social awkwardness, preference for sameness, etc. But, I am a sarcastic fuck, which isn't very stereo-typically autistic.
I loathe self-diagnosis though so I haven't drawn any hard conclusions from it, and I'm not sure acquiring a diagnosis would change my quality of life at all.
But I imagine I'm closer to being "on the spectrum" than most people.
When a pro-schooler sees a child behaving in a way they don't like, they compile said behaviour in a nonexistent disease. Autism is one of those. An MRI scan allows you to really roughly see how a human mind is organized, so of course an MRI scan reflects a human's behaviour. Doesn't prove that the behaviours they dislike are caused by a defect at all.
Trust me, no one here would argue that autism is any sort of defect, but you won't find many here who would agree that it is as unlikely to even exist as, say, ADHD or ODD.
What it means to be autistic - or, in the case of many who aren't, neurotypical - is another matter entirely.
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02-13-2015 03:34 AM
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(02-13-2015 02:12 AM)Jop Wrote: When a pro-schooler sees a child behaving in a way they don't like, they compile said behaviour in a nonexistent disease. Autism is one of those. An MRI scan allows you to really roughly see how a human mind is organized, so of course an MRI scan reflects a human's behaviour. Doesn't prove that the behaviours they dislike are caused by a defect at all.
Wes, yes, In extreme form, autism can look like that. It's hard to argue that isn't bona fide disordered behavior.
However, most on the autism spectrum can probably be described as having a difference, even gifts, more than a disorder, especially if they have access to a good learning environment and a supportive community.
(02-13-2015 02:12 AM)Jop Wrote: When a pro-schooler sees a child behaving in a way they don't like, they compile said behaviour in a nonexistent disease. Autism is one of those. An MRI scan allows you to really roughly see how a human mind is organized, so of course an MRI scan reflects a human's behaviour. Doesn't prove that the behaviours they dislike are caused by a defect at all.
lol those adults must just dislike how those kids of theirs are acting, clearly nothing wrong with them.
Actual bad behaviours and defects they can't explain are sometimes blamed on autism too. There was a man on TV that just sat there and said "uuuhhhhHHHHHhhhHHHHHHHHHhhHHHHhhhHHHHHhhh" all the time, and then they said "This man has autism.".
02-13-2015 07:49 AM
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What I meant was that self-injury (and the thing on TV, but yes, Brainiac3397 is right, it could be faked) is not part of the "symptoms of autism" yet those linked video's blame it on that.
Self-injury is more likely in an autistic but not really classified as a symptom. At most, it's an "at-risk" factor that comes into play.
MRI scans difference between activity in certain brain parts and also the reaction to those differences when put into play. This can be contrasted against someone who doesn't have autism and through enough samples can build a criteria of which to base symptoms and behaviors on.
Increasing a behavior doesn't change your brain anatomy just because you do it alot, it matters what your brain actually does and when it does it. Besides, are you really going to say that people who don't even know what autism is have been "faking" symptoms their whole lives to fool MRI scans?
Hidden stuff:
TRIGGER WARNING: THIS TRIGGER WARNING CONTAINS TRIGGER WARNINGS!
Dear Tumblrites:Despite your wrongly self-diagnosedPTSD, no line ofscientific evidencesuggests people can be triggered over theinternet. Triggering works through thesenses(i.e. smell, taste, touch, vision, hearing.) but it goes throughreal time; if you're not experiencing it in real life as it'sACTUALLY HAPPENINGin yourACTUALlife, youCANNOTbe triggered. The only exception to this is if you have aseizure, but then again, that's triggered byepilepsy(i.e. rapidly-changing flashing lights)NOT PTSD. Remembering a bad incident is NOT the same thing as having aflashback. When you remember, youthink; when youflashback,youfeel.
#HashTagsAreForIdiots
Max Stirnir Wrote:"In the time of spirits thoughts grew till they overtopped my head, whose offspring they yet were; they hovered about me and convulsed me like fever-phantasies -- an awful power. The thoughts had become corporeal on their own account, were ghosts, e. g. God, Emperor, Pope, Fatherland, etc. If I destroy their corporeity, then I take them back into mine, and say: "I alone am corporeal." And now I take the world as what it is to me, as mine, as my property; I refer all to myself."The Ego and Its Own, pg. 15
Charles Manson Wrote:“Look down at me and you see a fool;
look up at me and you see a god;
look straight at me and you see yourself”
HeartofShadows Wrote:"Life is nothing more than a druggie trying to get their quick fix of happiness while dealing with the harsh withdrawal of reality"
Osip Mandelstam Wrote:"I divide all of world literature into authorized and unauthorized works. The former are all trash; the latter--stolen air. I want to spit in the face of every writer who first obtains permission and then writes."The Fourth Prose, 1930.
Lukas Foss Wrote:That is why the analogy of stealing does not work. With a thief, we want to know how much money he stole, and from whom. With the artist it is not how much he took and from whom, but what he did with it.
(02-14-2015 05:03 AM)Sociopath Wrote: Besides, are you really going to say that people who don't even know what autism is have been "faking" symptoms their whole lives to fool MRI scans?
The symptoms of such a nonexistent disease are (like I already said) a set of disliked behaviors. A person gets assigned such a disease based on which disease's symptoms match with their behaviors. In this case it's autism but it could have been any of those diseases.
(02-14-2015 05:03 AM)Sociopath Wrote: Besides, are you really going to say that people who don't even know what autism is have been "faking" symptoms their whole lives to fool MRI scans?
The symptoms of such a nonexistent disease are (like I already said) a set of disliked behaviors. A person gets assigned such a disease based on which disease's symptoms match with their behaviors. In this case it's autism but it could have been any of those diseases.
Firstly it's not a "disease" it's technical term is "disorder." And no, people are not assigned a disorder based on "difference" it is based on a well-documented contrast of the individual versus an individual without the symptoms. Saying otherwise doesn't make any sense. That's like saying depression, schizophrenia, or antisocial personality disorder aren't "real" disorders because they're just different behaviors exerted that were just "assigned" a disorder. Why single out autism? Disorders are very real.
Aside from that you can't fool an MRI.
Hidden stuff:
TRIGGER WARNING: THIS TRIGGER WARNING CONTAINS TRIGGER WARNINGS!
Dear Tumblrites:Despite your wrongly self-diagnosedPTSD, no line ofscientific evidencesuggests people can be triggered over theinternet. Triggering works through thesenses(i.e. smell, taste, touch, vision, hearing.) but it goes throughreal time; if you're not experiencing it in real life as it'sACTUALLY HAPPENINGin yourACTUALlife, youCANNOTbe triggered. The only exception to this is if you have aseizure, but then again, that's triggered byepilepsy(i.e. rapidly-changing flashing lights)NOT PTSD. Remembering a bad incident is NOT the same thing as having aflashback. When you remember, youthink; when youflashback,youfeel.
#HashTagsAreForIdiots
Max Stirnir Wrote:"In the time of spirits thoughts grew till they overtopped my head, whose offspring they yet were; they hovered about me and convulsed me like fever-phantasies -- an awful power. The thoughts had become corporeal on their own account, were ghosts, e. g. God, Emperor, Pope, Fatherland, etc. If I destroy their corporeity, then I take them back into mine, and say: "I alone am corporeal." And now I take the world as what it is to me, as mine, as my property; I refer all to myself."The Ego and Its Own, pg. 15
Charles Manson Wrote:“Look down at me and you see a fool;
look up at me and you see a god;
look straight at me and you see yourself”
HeartofShadows Wrote:"Life is nothing more than a druggie trying to get their quick fix of happiness while dealing with the harsh withdrawal of reality"
Osip Mandelstam Wrote:"I divide all of world literature into authorized and unauthorized works. The former are all trash; the latter--stolen air. I want to spit in the face of every writer who first obtains permission and then writes."The Fourth Prose, 1930.
Lukas Foss Wrote:That is why the analogy of stealing does not work. With a thief, we want to know how much money he stole, and from whom. With the artist it is not how much he took and from whom, but what he did with it.
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