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To everyone who joined these forums at some point, and got discouraged by the negativity and left after a while (or even got literally scared off): I'm sorry.
I wasn't good enough at encouraging people to be kinder, and removing people who refuse to be kind. Encouraging people is hard, and removing people creates conflict, and I hate conflict... so that's why I wasn't better at it.
I was a very, very sensitive teen. The atmosphere of this forum as it is now, if it had existed in 1996, would probably have upset me far more than it would have helped.
I can handle quite a lot of negativity and even abuse now, but that isn't the point. I want to help people. I want to help the people who need it the most, and I want to help people like the 1996 version of me.
I'm still figuring out the best way to do that, but as it is now, these forums are doing more harm than good, and I can't keep running them.
Thank you to the few people who have tried to understand my point of view so far. I really, really appreciate you guys. You are beautiful people.
Everyone else: If after everything I've said so far, you still don't understand my motivations, I think it's unlikely that you will. We're just too different. Maybe someday in the future it might make sense, but until then, there's no point in arguing about it. I don't have the time or the energy for arguing anymore. I will focus my time and energy on people who support me, and those who need help.
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I mostly hate school because I have severe social phobia, and school + social phobia don't make for a good combination. School is a fucking nightmare and I have zero friends and don't fit in with anybody. I'm almost 17 years old and going into year 11 at the end of this month. I still have 2 full years left of the horror. I come from Australia, our school year starts in Jan and ends in December.
I enjoy learning, but I hate classrooms. Because of my social phobia, I'm often too anxious to efficiently concentrate on my school duties, instead I'm busy obsessing over what the pathetic other-teenagers think of me and trying with futility to not make an ass of myself 234290423+ times a day.
I have less than amazing social skills so I literally don't know how to make friends. I have no connection with anybody and nobody seems to like me enough to actually talk to me. I barely exist. I'm a speck of nothingness amongst all the other people at school. I also have depression which is partially caused by social phobia.
(01-13-2015 08:20 PM)ShatteredGlass Wrote: Hi, fellow school haters.
I mostly hate school because I have severe social phobia, and school + social phobia don't make for a good combination. School is a fucking nightmare and I have zero friends and don't fit in with anybody. I'm almost 17 years old and going into year 11 at the end of this month. I still have 2 full years left of the horror. I come from Australia, our school year starts in Jan and ends in December.
I enjoy learning, but I hate classrooms. Because of my social phobia, I'm often too anxious to efficiently concentrate on my school duties, instead I'm busy obsessing over what the pathetic other-teenagers think of me and trying with futility to not make an ass of myself 234290423+ times a day.
I have less than amazing social skills so I literally don't know how to make friends. I have no connection with anybody and nobody seems to like me enough to actually talk to me. I barely exist. I'm a speck of nothingness amongst all the other people at school. I also have depression which is partially caused by social phobia.
(01-13-2015 08:20 PM)ShatteredGlass Wrote: Hi, fellow school haters.
I mostly hate school because I have severe social phobia, and school + social phobia don't make for a good combination. School is a fucking nightmare and I have zero friends and don't fit in with anybody. I'm almost 17 years old and going into year 11 at the end of this month. I still have 2 full years left of the horror. I come from Australia, our school year starts in Jan and ends in December.
I enjoy learning, but I hate classrooms. Because of my social phobia, I'm often too anxious to efficiently concentrate on my school duties, instead I'm busy obsessing over what the pathetic other-teenagers think of me and trying with futility to not make an ass of myself 234290423+ times a day.
I have less than amazing social skills so I literally don't know how to make friends. I have no connection with anybody and nobody seems to like me enough to actually talk to me. I barely exist. I'm a speck of nothingness amongst all the other people at school. I also have depression which is partially caused by social phobia.
Hey ShatteredGlass (I think I know what that username means, actually), welcome to School Survival
You're definitely not alone. A lot of people on School Survival have a lot of trouble socializing (a lot of introversion going on here), and we don't hate learning, we hate classrooms. The tedious work, the endless and lack of respect obedience, and the absolute hole of boredom, there's no reason these methods should be a part of learning in the 21st century.
School can often cause depression, isolation, and really hopelessness (or if you're unlucky like me, post-traumatic stress disorder). Again, you're not alone in this struggle. You've found the right place.
Feel free to make this your second home or something.
(01-13-2015 10:10 PM)c00ldud3 Wrote: Welcome aboard man. Glad to have you.
Your school years are Jan-Dec... do you all have any break?
Yeah, we have a two week break in between terms. The break between school years is about 6 - 8 weeks.
I've actually been here before, but I didn't sign up. I don't actually know if I plan to even post actively yet. I don't exactly hate the premise of school (education is essential of course), I just hate it because causes me to be constantly bored and anxious.
(This post was last modified: 01-14-2015 04:35 PM by ShatteredGlass.)
I think it's fair to say that everyone here values education, and learning -- of course these are important. The problem is how school tends to work, leading to boredom, anxiety, and wasted time for so many people. Most forms of school today are still stuck in the world of the past century (where there were still many people who hated it), but today, it's ridiculously out of step with the times.
Any ideas about your future? What might you like to do with your life, and what would you like to learn more about?
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(01-14-2015 06:55 PM)xcriteria Wrote: I think it's fair to say that everyone here values education, and learning -- of course these are important. The problem is how school tends to work, leading to boredom, anxiety, and wasted time for so many people. Most forms of school today are still stuck in the world of the past century (where there were still many people who hated it), but today, it's ridiculously out of step with the times.
Any ideas about your future? What might you like to do with your life, and what would you like to learn more about?
I'm not quite sure what I want to do yet in terms of career, but I'm leaning towards a career in psychology. I'm doing psychology in school this year, and I'm hoping I'll do well in the subject. My grades are not exactly great because I often have trouble concentrating due to anxiety related factors. Since I'm interested in it though, I think I'll do well.
I think antidepressants would help me (with anxiety and such) but my mum doesn't like the idea and I'm too young to consent for them myself.
(This post was last modified: 01-14-2015 09:04 PM by ShatteredGlass.)
Psychology is one of my interests, too. I was majoring in psychology when I was last in college (around the time I joined SS forums, many years ago.) But, I found I wasn't learning enough.
If you can make college work, go for it... you can also learn a lot beyond typical college classes, which I'd also suggest. You might also use CLEP (College Level Examination Program) to test out of some classes.
(01-14-2015 08:41 PM)xcriteria Wrote: Any idea where your anxiety comes from?
I was bullied as a child (age 11 to about 13). I've had anxiety problems for most of my life. As a kid, I had a whole host of mental problems, including generalized anxiety and social phobia. When I was about 10, I was crying all the time for reasons I couldn't explain. I had no idea why I was feeling so bad, I just did. I guess I have a genetic predisposition to mental problems. I even suspect possible OCD now. I've had problems with fitting in my entire life too.
I was always a different child. My mum seems to think I'm exceptionally smart but I feel otherwise a lot of the time. School makes me feel stupid.
Genetic predisposition may play a role... but it sounds like your family and school may not be helping.
The good news is, you can learn ways to change things. Anxiety tends to have a substantial genetic component, but it's also something that can often be changed through cognitive-behavioral therapy (which is basically about metacognition) and other approaches. In short, you can change your brain, even if the way it's wired has been influenced by genetics and experiences.
Most, if not all, of us on School Survival are "different" in various ways... including being of mixed intelligence, smart in some ways, struggling in others. School tends to ignore strengths and over-emphasize points of difficulty, which is part of why we're all here.
But, if you discover your strengths, and develop them, it can ope up all kinds of doors. And even points of weakness can be developed. But, developing interests and strengths tends to be the thing that provides energy and motivation to develop the rest. (In contrast to punishing, threatening, shaming, and ranting over failure to comply with grades, which so much of school-as-usual is based on.)
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