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Petitions to get COPPA repealed?
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Petitions to get COPPA repealed?

COPPA is the most ageist law in the U.S. this side of truancy laws. Anybody rallying to get it repealed?

I recently got banned from DeviantArt over a TYPO saying I was 12 when I am 13. I have messaged DeviantArt about the issue, but I don't want it happening again (on Reddit, here, YouTube, etc.)

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RE: Petitions to get COPPA repealed?

Repeal reality 2014.

While I agree with this particular case, I know that adding my voice will detract from the cause and not add.

Hello, traveler.

This is an ancient account I have not used in a long time. My views have changed much in the intervening months and years.

Nonetheless, I refuse to clean it up. Pretending that I've held my current views since the beginning of time is what we in the industry call a lie. Asking people to do so contributes to moralistic self-loathing. "See, those people have nothing damning! I do! I'm truly vile!"

Because you can never be a good person with a single blemish on the moral record, I thought that simply entertaining some thoughts made me irredeemable. Though I don't care for his writing style, William Faulkner presents a good counterexample. He went from being a typical Southern racist to supporting the civil rights movement. These days we'd yell at him for that, probably.

People are allowed to change their views.

Nevertheless, this period of my life has informed some of how I am today. In good ways and bad ways. To purge it would be to do a disservice to history. Perhaps it will not make anyone sympathetic, but it may help someone understand.

If, after reading all this, you still decide to use the post above as evidence that I am evil today, ask yourself if you have never disagreed with the moral code you now follow. In all likelihood you did, at some point. If some questions are verboten, and the answer is "how dare you ask that," don't expect your ideological opponents to ever change their minds.
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On Mars, I'd be 10.1

From what I see, they never explicitly require you to be 13 in Earth years...

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RE: Petitions to get COPPA repealed?

Yes.
YES.
Multiply your age in Earth years by 4.2, and that's about your age in Mercury years. Or I'm retarded.

COPPA sucks.
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Petitions to get COPPA repealed?

I think it's just a cop-out on the part of legislators - people have complained that young people are unsafe, and the "obvious" solution is to prevent them from contributing anything in the first place.

Get it? COP-out? Eh, forget it

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Meh, just keep faking your age and you'll be fine. That's what I used to do.

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COPPA - teaching kids how to lie about their age since ... whenever it started.

Seriously though, that's pretty retarded of DeviantArt. But I guess they're scared of legal issues.

It most certainly won't happen on SS, though. Worst case scenario, I'll move the site to a server in Sweden or someplace the US can't touch it. But I don't think they can be bothered, I'm not American anyway. The only thing their stupid laws might apply to is the server, if it's in the US, but I think it's currently in Canada (lol I don't know where the server is - the hosting company is Canadian though).

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RE: Petitions to get COPPA repealed?

(06-06-2014 10:49 PM)SoulRiser Wrote:  COPPA - teaching kids how to lie about their age since ... whenever it started.

Seriously though, that's pretty retarded of DeviantArt. But I guess they're scared of legal issues.

It most certainly won't happen on SS, though. Worst case scenario, I'll move the site to a server in Sweden or someplace the US can't touch it. But I don't think they can be bothered, I'm not American anyway. The only thing their stupid laws might apply to is the server, if it's in the US, but I think it's currently in Canada (lol I don't know where the server is - the hosting company is Canadian though).

COPPA is one of what I like to call "US International Laws," laws that are U.S. exclusive but the 'Murkan government tries to enforce it globally (I've heard of site owners in England get fined for COPPA-related reasons.)

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The Internet is international territory, and its people span every ethnicity, sex, and age. It figures that the nationalistic policies of the American government would cause websites to discriminate based on the latter.

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Quote:I've heard of site owners in England get fined for COPPA-related reasons.
Was the site hosted in the US? I think that's how they like to say they have jurisdiction or whatever.

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I actually plan on moving to Sweden if things get bad enough in the US(mainly with the Telecoms and whatnot)

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Time to build servers in Somalia and cyberize piracy like a boss.

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(06-07-2014 08:35 AM)SoulRiser Wrote:  
Quote:I've heard of site owners in England get fined for COPPA-related reasons.
Was the site hosted in the US? I think that's how they like to say they have jurisdiction or whatever.

I don't know....

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Anyone notice that many COPPA supporters on the internet are ageist pigs who like COPPA just because it prevents stereotypical kids (fanboys, poor grammar, etc.) from being on the site. Not because it makes kids safer (which it doesn't.)

The things that made COPPA seem necessary in 1998 have been remedied. Parental controls, parents telling their kids about the dangers, rules about putting adresses,etc. out there. All provisions that make COPPA 100% unnecessary.

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