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GamerGurl · 03-23-2014 08:59 AM

SR, can you please address this issue? I don't mind old threads being necro'd if the OP is posting again (or still posting), or if just some new information on the topic is being provided, but overall the majority of the necromancy of threads on SS have just been plain annoying lately.

Sometimes I think I'd be going into a really new thread where I could put hours and hours into the discussion, only for a majority of the posts to be from 2005. Huh

Overall it just makes the forums look unorganized. I think the issue should be addressed and if there's nothing really relevant about the necro just have the thread locked is all.

I hope I'm not the only one having an issue with this but it just discourages me of coming here – especially going to the School Talk and Venting Forum where it happens a majority of the time. The clutter is unnecessary and I just think for the betterment of the forums it should be toned down. Please. Upset

Chanku · 03-23-2014 09:03 AM

I do think we need to have a cap on necroing because a lot of it is annoying. Necro'ing is okay, when it gives new information, the Op is posting, or if it adds something to the discussion. However Bumping just for bumping old threads should be looked down upon a bit.

James Comey · 03-23-2014 09:05 AM

^I'm guilty of the same as well.

I think that some old threads though that aren't very relevant are worth bumping if part of something like History of SS (like the RATS post).

Chanku · 03-23-2014 09:05 AM

That would fall under giving new information

Heil_Kaiba8921 · 03-23-2014 10:10 AM

Not sure how my presence in here will be viewed...

I think the only useless thread I necro'd that was in public view would be the one about Hiroshima. The one Aya posted got extremely useless when it was turned into "let's hate on aya, but compliment her picture" and only served one use for me in the beginning.

Other than that, I've got nothing for the time being.

Ky · 03-23-2014 02:50 PM

I disagree. No more rules, only expectations. We're not like other forums, remember?

If bumping old threads is people's thing, let them do it. And, I mean, what's the harm?

James Comey · 03-23-2014 02:52 PM

Old threads can block relevant discussion.

I think we should just limit ourselves from necroing threads unless there's any kind of relevance. I can understand a necro for the SS History project, or perhaps a necro on a topic that the person didn't feel like creating a new topic for, but pointless necros, yeah.

GamerGurl · 03-23-2014 05:31 PM

(03-23-2014 02:52 PM)Hansgrohe Wrote: Old threads can block relevant discussion.

I think we should just limit ourselves from necroing threads unless there's any kind of relevance. I can understand a necro for the SS History project, or perhaps a necro on a topic that the person didn't feel like creating a new topic for, but pointless necros, yeah.

I know it's more of a rule that I'd like imposed on the website, but it's not like you have to ban anyone for it. You don't have to hand out warnings. Just lock the thread temporarily or permanently, and if you want post after the lock and say why it was locked.

I just think the website would be more organized. I'm sick of clicking some threads that are nothing but clutter.

gore goroth · 03-23-2014 09:00 PM

Beleive it or not I find nothing wrong with bumping old threads (depending on the reasoning behind it). That being said, you can see the reasoning behind most of these bumps as of late have been completeley stupid. *Ahem*moar flamewars *ahem*

**SoulRiser** · 03-25-2014 06:08 AM

Doesn't bother me either.

Sure, it's a mild annoyance sometimes, but I don't really see why I should do anything about it. Just ask the person to stop if it bothers you.

There's also the ability to block new posts from certain forums from showing up in the recent list.

Ky · 03-25-2014 06:31 AM

(03-23-2014 02:52 PM)Hansgrohe Wrote: Old threads can block relevant discussion.

Not true at all. I'm pretty sure we all have the mental capacity to merely skip over the discussions that aren't pertinent to our interests.

The reasons we have for establishing rules against bumping are not as grave as the effects such a rule would have.

Heil_Kaiba8921 · 03-25-2014 07:00 AM

(03-25-2014 06:31 AM)DoA Wrote:
(03-23-2014 02:52 PM)Hansgrohe Wrote: Old threads can block relevant discussion.

Not true at all. I'm pretty sure we all have the mental capacity to merely skip over the discussions that aren't pertinent to our interests.

I've been doing this ever since I joined. It really has not been that hard at all, I just open up the threads I want to view in new tabs and the final new thread is opened in the tab I was using, which will make it so I don't have to look at the new posts anymore.

xcriteria · 03-25-2014 01:57 PM

(03-23-2014 05:31 PM)MrJurgens Wrote: I just think the website would be more organized. I'm sick of clicking some threads that are nothing but clutter.

Having the website be more organized and useful is a worthwhile goal. The forums are one part of that, but there's a lot more to the site, as well.

If there's something to discuss, let's figure out how to discuss it. Smile

I don't think "threads containing clutter" is limited to old threads. Of course, people seem to differ on what they consider clutter vs. something worth reading and responding too.

I think one solution to all of this is to interact in several mediums, not just forums. For example, chat, Hangouts, and even collaboratively-edited documents. I encourage everyone to check out the chat, and join us on some hangouts.

Btw, there is arguably worthwhile material buried in the over half a million posts on these forums... maybe there are better ways of digging through that and adapting into a useful form than bumping threads, but maybe we could find some way to figure out what has happened over this past decade+ that's worth explaining in summarized form to new or old users.

(That's part of the goal of the SS history project...)

And I'll put this in bold, since it's also the tl;dr:

I think it comes down to people being mindful of what they're adding to any thread, whether bumped or new. The forums can have a lot better overall quality and value if people make a habit of doing that...

KFC Nyan Cat · 03-26-2014 06:14 AM

I don't want anything done because I don't want School Survival to become the next Planet Minecraft.

Ky · 03-26-2014 06:33 AM

Bump.

Heil_Kaiba8921 · 03-26-2014 09:43 AM

double bump

James Comey · 03-26-2014 10:00 AM

bumpity bumpity bump

Gwedin · 03-26-2014 12:40 PM

necroing this thread

Ky · 03-26-2014 11:44 PM

Bump.

Heil_Kaiba8921 · 03-27-2014 03:51 AM

Whatchyu gonna do with all that bump. All that bump in your trunk.

Ky · 03-27-2014 06:14 AM

I'm bringing this thread back from the dead, it needs more discussion

GamerGurl · 03-27-2014 07:08 AM

(03-25-2014 06:08 AM)SoulRiser Wrote: Doesn't bother me either.

Sure, it's a mild annoyance sometimes, but I don't really see why I should do anything about it. Just ask the person to stop if it bothers you.

There's also the ability to block new posts from certain forums from showing up in the recent list.

Well I don't want to block entire forums. I'm just kind of sick of entering threads in the School Talk and Venting forum, thinking they're new and have mature, interesting, engaging, relevant, etc. dialogue being traded only for it to be a thread that was made when I was 7 years old with short-burst posts from users who don't even visit the site anymore.

It's just getting tiresome at this point. All I ask is for that sort of activity to be kept down.

Heil_Kaiba8921 · 03-27-2014 09:17 AM

(03-27-2014 07:08 AM)MrJurgens Wrote:
(03-25-2014 06:08 AM)SoulRiser Wrote: Doesn't bother me either.

Sure, it's a mild annoyance sometimes, but I don't really see why I should do anything about it. Just ask the person to stop if it bothers you.

There's also the ability to block new posts from certain forums from showing up in the recent list.
Well I don't want to block entire forums. I'm just kind of sick of entering threads in the School Talk and Venting forum, thinking they're new and have mature, interesting, engaging, relevant, etc. dialogue being traded only for it to be a thread that was made when I was 7 years old with short-burst posts from users who don't even visit the site anymore.

It's just getting tiresome at this point. All I ask is for that sort of activity to be kept down.

For the most part there aren't a bunch of threads being necrod anymore. I can get back to work if you'd like.

**SoulRiser** · 03-27-2014 10:05 AM

Well, you heard the man. Don't necro things unless you have a really good reason. Nono

Heil_Kaiba8921 · 03-27-2014 02:28 PM

(03-27-2014 10:05 AM)SoulRiser Wrote: Well, you heard the man. Don't necro things unless you have a really good reason.

You just reminded me of the Bob and Tom song called "Get drunk with dignity"...one of the lines is "Don't moon a nun, unless you've got a real good reasuuuun"

Ky · 03-28-2014 06:28 AM

I'm bumping this thread, it requires more info

Gwedin · 03-28-2014 12:42 PM

necroing this

dont even have a reason i'm just a shithead

James Comey · 03-28-2014 01:12 PM

Does this date back to 2004?

**SoulRiser** · 03-28-2014 10:42 PM

Locking this because I can. Mwahaha

Try bumping it now! Evil

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