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SeReNiTY · 11-20-2013 01:19 PM

I already told you about the abridgment of my rights by "authority". For simply knowing/using my rights I was suppressed by both a teacher and principal. Now I need INDIVIDUAL action to be taken, because my union is not that popular.

I have considered:

-contacting the ACLU to have them maybe sue my school district

-growing the popularity of my union and holding protests

-aaand I'm running out of ideas. What is the best course of action for me to take?

James Comey · 11-20-2013 01:38 PM

How much are your parents willing to support you? You could possibly get this to a small claims court.

I'm not too sure about what the ACLU could do. They might offer support, especially considering how blatant the teachers restricted your freedom of speech.

Perhaps you need to put posters in front of your school, preferably when there are no adults. Wear discreet clothing and make sure you are not recognized. And I highly do NOT recommend vandalizing the school.

EDIT: I recommend small papers that aren't likely to get noticed. Not even moderately big banners that will get noticed. Being subtle is key here. Perhaps you may want to put banners around your town, like laundromats, etc.

154bmag · 11-20-2013 02:45 PM

Quote:I recommend small papers that aren't likely to get noticed. Not even moderately big banners that will get noticed. Being subtle is key here.

I did that exact thing last year, they all got taken down within 2 periods

James Comey · 11-20-2013 02:50 PM

Even with that, I'd say it's still worth a shot. You'll never know. And who's to say school's the only place to do this? I'd say put this anywhere where kids hang around.

brainiac3397 · 11-20-2013 04:40 PM

(11-20-2013 02:45 PM)154bmag Wrote:
Quote:I recommend small papers that aren't likely to get noticed. Not even moderately big banners that will get noticed. Being subtle is key here.
I did that exact thing last year, they all got taken down within 2 periods

What if you put them up and held them in place with supahglue or epoxy?

SeReNiTY · 11-20-2013 10:18 PM

(11-20-2013 01:38 PM)Hansgrohe Wrote: How much are your parents willing to support you? You could possibly get this to a small claims court.

None. They disagree with me and say the Supreme Court has said that the school is acting inside of their rights. Bullshit, I know my rights. I collected Supreme Court cases and laws that prove it. And they just violated my rights, TWICE, big-time. So, I've got no support on the parental side.

Chanku · 11-21-2013 01:53 AM

Well to be honest, if you are talking about distributing your own works, depending on the circuit you live in they can have a prior review. At least that's what my research has come up with.

brainiac3397 · 11-21-2013 04:56 AM

Hope the local judge doesnt prostitute himself to the school admins.

James Comey · 11-21-2013 10:19 AM

Maybe this could be done: simply threaten them with the ACLU. Practice used complicated language and legal terms. School dictators like to think all of their students are obedient yet dumb minions, but he will be impressed that you know all your rights and can speak so well. Practice is key here.

SeReNiTY · 11-21-2013 11:33 AM

I tried that, it nearly got me suspended. I was nearly suspended for passing around a student rights paper upon other students request before class. They said it was disruptive because of the domino theory (they can censor speech if it is disruptive) of which I have no control over. More bullshit. Because more students were talking about how I was punished instead of what I did to get it. They caused more disruption than I.

They wouldn't even let me state my rights, for God's sake!

James Comey · 11-21-2013 12:07 PM

Hmm.... I'm wondering whether it's possible to try to turn this into a national media shitstorm somehow. I'm still thinking how.

Interesting they mentioned the domino theory. That's exactly what happened with the Arab states. Guess they don't want an Arab Spring inside the US youth indoctrination system.

SeReNiTY · 11-21-2013 12:26 PM

Oh, this could end badly for my school district.

SeReNiTY · 11-21-2013 12:29 PM

BTW, the domino theory was used in disruption as this: one person is talking about it, then the next, etc.

brainiac3397 · 11-21-2013 12:30 PM

The Domino Theory? The cold war ended LONG ago, and Im sure the domino theory was pretty much disporved when we lost Vietnam and nothing happened...

Obviously an issue with the education system, following outdated policies and thought.

Trar · 12-17-2013 10:10 AM

I think a key thing here is that this is going to be a rather long and quite possibly painful struggle. We got your back, at any rate. You're braver than I was Razz

James Comey · 12-17-2013 10:12 AM

I still think it's worth telling the ACLU what the school did to you. Basically, they were infringing on your right of freedom of speech. I think that could go on as a violation of constitutional rights (freedom of speech, freedom of spreading ideas, etc).

Trar · 12-19-2013 03:22 PM

But will the ACLU even pay attention? Will they see that factory-model schooling is shit or will they turn a blind eye to the system because it's 'education'? I really, really hope they do the former.

James Comey · 12-19-2013 03:44 PM

Don't think the ACLU has seen the factory model as BS yet, but they have a blog dedicated to stopping the School to Prison Pipeline, so they do give a shit about students' rights.

Trar · 12-19-2013 03:51 PM

Yeah, the Pipeline is a related issue. The zero tolerance shit and increased police-itizing (for lack of a better term) of school infractions has led to more and more 'offenders' being charged with actual crimes for things that back in my parents' day would have just resulted in a trip to the principal's office and maybe a detention. And its creation was helped along by monied interests in the related industries and the administrative officials who went along with it (or were simply bought out).

James Comey · 12-19-2013 03:56 PM

Ugh. Sometimes there might be up to 3 police officers at my school.

I seriously don't understand the excessive punishment these days. Interesting that you point out corporate interests a possibility, Trar. Schools aren't exactly making a lot of money these days. Hell, back in 7th grade, my middle school ran out of paper and couldn't buy more. It'd be easy for officials to get bought out by companies out of desperation, regardless of ethics.

Trar · 12-20-2013 11:18 AM

I read a bit about this in Fast Food Nation. I've posted about this before, but a recap is good every once in a while: the schools in Colorado Springs accepted money from various companies to display billboards and to get the students to pull PR stunts, not to mention vending machines in the schools. I also heard that Exxon-Motherfucking-Mobil sponsored bullshit textbooks about energy and climate change for one particularly foolish district (not in Colorado though, I think).

brainiac3397 · 12-20-2013 12:17 PM

Like Blackwater(I think they're called "Academi" now) sponsoring books about global peace.

Trar · 12-21-2013 02:56 AM

They did that?! You got a link?

brainiac3397 · 12-21-2013 03:18 AM

They're doing(or did) some global peace institute stuff, but much of the info on it doesn't seem to be around.

Trar · 12-21-2013 11:36 AM

Lost to the mists of time...

There was a cop on duty in my last school, but he was rather friendly. Kind of glad I never had the chance to earn a visit with him.

brainiac3397 · 12-21-2013 01:13 PM

I hate when information on the net disappears. They have archive thing that will grab images of sites, but that usually depends on traffic I believe. Many sites simply get the home page taken. Others are literally catalogued from homepage to every other part of the site.

Beats not having such a system though.

Trar · 12-25-2013 06:03 AM

Agreed. The sands of time are ever-shifting, especially on EL INTERNET.

SeReNiTY · 03-05-2014 08:55 AM

I'm BUMPing this post from the dead because I need ideas again. Keep in mind I might have to sneak the ACLU call.

Kthxbai

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