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To everyone who joined these forums at some point, and got discouraged by the negativity and left after a while (or even got literally scared off): I'm sorry.
I wasn't good enough at encouraging people to be kinder, and removing people who refuse to be kind. Encouraging people is hard, and removing people creates conflict, and I hate conflict... so that's why I wasn't better at it.
I was a very, very sensitive teen. The atmosphere of this forum as it is now, if it had existed in 1996, would probably have upset me far more than it would have helped.
I can handle quite a lot of negativity and even abuse now, but that isn't the point. I want to help people. I want to help the people who need it the most, and I want to help people like the 1996 version of me.
I'm still figuring out the best way to do that, but as it is now, these forums are doing more harm than good, and I can't keep running them.
Thank you to the few people who have tried to understand my point of view so far. I really, really appreciate you guys. You are beautiful people.
Everyone else: If after everything I've said so far, you still don't understand my motivations, I think it's unlikely that you will. We're just too different. Maybe someday in the future it might make sense, but until then, there's no point in arguing about it. I don't have the time or the energy for arguing anymore. I will focus my time and energy on people who support me, and those who need help.
-SoulRiser
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Today you die, and go to heaven. St. Peter meets you at the gates, and says, "You did not believe in God, so you can not go to heaven, but you were not a bad person, so I will not automatically send you to hell. So I will give you a choice. You may either go to hell, and live with eternal suffering, but live nonetheless, or you can have God destroy your soul and cease to exist."
What would you choose and why?
Inb4 religious debate
Inb4 that's not how God works.
The purpose of life is a life with a purpose
So I’d rather die for a cause than live a life that is worthless
I don’t need the circus or the day of national observance
I need you to think for you and stop being a servant
-Immortal Technique, The Martyr, The Martyr
It don't make sense, goin' to heaven wit the goodie-goodies
Dressed in white, I like black Tims and black hoodies
God will probably have me on some real strict shit
No sleepin' all day, no gettin my dick licked
Me and the devil (The devil and I?) will be chill as fuck.
Walk through the gates of hell, see my impala parked in front
With the high beams on, me and the devil share chronic blunts
Liveuntil youdie
(This post was last modified: 02-24-2012 04:27 AM by UnschoolShqiponjë.)
02-24-2012 04:25 AM
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If, when I die, I am proven wrong and there is God or Allah up there I will apologize profusely, and if he's the all understanding omniscient god you people say he is, he'll understand. I'll say "I just can't believe in something with no evidence whatsoever of it ever existing, you know?"
And if they say it's cool, all my hard feelings towards god are erased.
If he says I should have had faith, I'm punching him in the face, because who cares I'm going to hell anyway.
I think some of you guys missed the point. The question is basically whether it it is better to exist forever, but still exist,with the worst imaginable suffering or to not exist at all.
Then again, there is a decent chance I am being trolled.
The purpose of life is a life with a purpose
So I’d rather die for a cause than live a life that is worthless
I don’t need the circus or the day of national observance
I need you to think for you and stop being a servant
-Immortal Technique, The Martyr, The Martyr
02-24-2012 09:31 AM
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(02-24-2012 09:31 AM)IamNoone Wrote: The question is basically whether it it is better to exist forever, but still exist, with the worst imaginable suffering or to not exist at all.
I don't see how you can worship something you've never seen or heard, there's NO evidence that he exists, there's actually evidence that he doesn't exist...where is God? Where's heaven?
What proof do you have? What evidence did you gather before deciding to be a christian? What your parents believed?
Is the bible your proof? Is faith your proof? The bible says the world is 6000 years old. Fundamentalist christians dismiss scientific theories and facts as nonsense if it contradicts their 2000 year old bible written by some stupid fucking ancient people.
Why didn't you pick one of the other thousands of religions out there? Oh right, because you were born in America. If you had been born in the middle east, you'd be a muslim right now.
(02-24-2012 09:31 AM)IamNoone Wrote: I think some of you guys missed the point. The question is basically whether it it is better to exist forever, but still exist,with the worst imaginable suffering or to not exist at all.
Then again, there is a decent chance I am being trolled.
isn't that a pretty obvious? Torture or not torture rofl.
(02-24-2012 09:35 AM)StadiumArcadium Wrote: I don't see how you can worship something you've never seen or heard, there's NO evidence that he exists, there's actually evidence that he doesn't exist...where is God? Where's heaven?
What proof do you have? What evidence did you gather before deciding to be a christian? What your parents believed?
Is the bible your proof? Is faith your proof? The bible says the world is 6000 years old. Fundamentalist christians dismiss scientific theories and facts as nonsense if it contradicts their 2000 year old bible written by some stupid fucking ancient people.
Why didn't you pick one of the other thousands of religions out there? Oh right, because you were born in America. If you had been born in the middle east, you'd be a muslim right now.
Key words in my first post were "Hypothetical Scenario"
The purpose of life is a life with a purpose
So I’d rather die for a cause than live a life that is worthless
I don’t need the circus or the day of national observance
I need you to think for you and stop being a servant
-Immortal Technique, The Martyr, The Martyr
Since when is chilling with the devil eternal suffering?
I bet he/she loves to party.
Where as partying with God is like joining the Clan of 99 Virgins.
(01-10-2012 02:15 PM)Maelstrom Wrote: Efs, your nihilism is beautiful.
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02-24-2012 03:41 PM
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I'll just laugh at you all from the heavens of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Fuck this whole "only Christians go to heaven" shit. Or, I'll just end up in Nirvana. Or be reborn. It would be boring if I knew. Most probably, I'll just turn to dust anyways. If not mummified.
Eternal suffering he? Hm, do drugs count as eternal suffering? If so, I'd choose torture, so I can try all of them without consequences. Also, if the devil punishes bad guys (and girls, lol), he must be considered good somehow...
Ah crap, this is gonna disturb me on my morning walk...
Non Existence. Then I'll know what I get. No more stupid people. Just combined with nothingness - the nonexistence, and there for, the "I-don't-have-to-give-a-fuck-about-anything-ness" . Sounds great to me.
RIP GORE GOROTH
RIP GORE GOROTH
RIP GORE GOROTH
(This post was last modified: 02-24-2012 04:27 PM by aCol.)
Speaking about death, I wanna be some old funny old man just trolling people and dancing everywhere I go. Grabbing some young ass and being a completely badass fun old man.
And when I'm about to die, I'll do it by beating some one famous and then instead of going to prison to die I'll drug overdose.
Oh yeah lol
(01-10-2012 02:15 PM)Maelstrom Wrote: Efs, your nihilism is beautiful.
In the words of George Carlin, "I do this stupid thing sometimes, it's called thinking." The reason I don't believe in any religion is because there's no logic in it.
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(01-13-2012 10:37 AM)UnschoolShqiponjë Wrote: Mike you deserve an SS medal. Here, be proud:
Congrats for doing something I never had the balls to do.
If you have kids, save them from the bullshit you are forced to go through.
(01-25-2012 05:36 AM)UnschoolShqiponjë Wrote: Balls of steel re-awarded.
(02-07-2012 03:22 PM)flann Wrote: Balls of Tungsten, now.
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(02-24-2012 09:35 AM)StadiumArcadium Wrote: I don't see how you can worship something you've never seen or heard, there's NO evidence that he exists, there's actually evidence that he doesn't exist...where is God? Where's heaven?
What proof do you have? What evidence did you gather before deciding to be a christian? What your parents believed?
Is the bible your proof? Is faith your proof? The bible says the world is 6000 years old. Fundamentalist christians dismiss scientific theories and facts as nonsense if it contradicts their 2000 year old bible written by some stupid fucking ancient people.
Why didn't you pick one of the other thousands of religions out there? Oh right, because you were born in America. If you had been born in the middle east, you'd be a muslim right now.
chill man chill xD
Everyone goes so ballistic when it comes to religion, it's really funny.
Let go of all desire for the common good, and the good becomes common as grass.
~~
Good fortune follows upon disaster;
Disaster lurks within good fortune;
Who can say how things will end?
Perhaps there is no end.
02-25-2012 07:07 PM
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