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A Question For Atheists and Agnostics
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A Question For Atheists and Agnostics

Hypothetical scenario:

Today you die, and go to heaven. St. Peter meets you at the gates, and says, "You did not believe in God, so you can not go to heaven, but you were not a bad person, so I will not automatically send you to hell. So I will give you a choice. You may either go to hell, and live with eternal suffering, but live nonetheless, or you can have God destroy your soul and cease to exist."

What would you choose and why?

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Inb4 that's not how God works.

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RE: A Question For Atheists and Agnostics

I have no soul, so he has nothing to destroy or send to hell.

What now?
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(02-24-2012 02:13 AM)Sharpie Wrote:  I have no soul, so he has nothing to destroy or send to hell.

What now?

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Eternal suffering or no eternal suffering, boy that choice sure is hard.
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(02-24-2012 03:47 AM)SaintVicious Wrote:  Eternal suffering or no eternal suffering, boy that choice sure is hard.

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RE: A Question For Atheists and Agnostics

It don't make sense, goin' to heaven wit the goodie-goodies
Dressed in white, I like black Tims and black hoodies
God will probably have me on some real strict shit
No sleepin' all day, no gettin my dick licked




Me and the devil (The devil and I?) will be chill as fuck.



Walk through the gates of hell, see my impala parked in front
With the high beams on, me and the devil share chronic blunts

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Your anaolgy makes no sense.

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If, when I die, I am proven wrong and there is God or Allah up there I will apologize profusely, and if he's the all understanding omniscient god you people say he is, he'll understand. I'll say "I just can't believe in something with no evidence whatsoever of it ever existing, you know?"
And if they say it's cool, all my hard feelings towards god are erased.
If he says I should have had faith, I'm punching him in the face, because who cares I'm going to hell anyway.

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RE: A Question For Atheists and Agnostics

I think some of you guys missed the point. The question is basically whether it it is better to exist forever, but still exist,with the worst imaginable suffering or to not exist at all.

Then again, there is a decent chance I am being trolled.

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(02-24-2012 09:31 AM)IamNoone Wrote:  The question is basically whether it it is better to exist forever, but still exist, with the worst imaginable suffering or to not exist at all.

Confused

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I don't see how you can worship something you've never seen or heard, there's NO evidence that he exists, there's actually evidence that he doesn't exist...where is God? Where's heaven?
What proof do you have? What evidence did you gather before deciding to be a christian? What your parents believed?
Is the bible your proof? Is faith your proof? The bible says the world is 6000 years old. Fundamentalist christians dismiss scientific theories and facts as nonsense if it contradicts their 2000 year old bible written by some stupid fucking ancient people.
Why didn't you pick one of the other thousands of religions out there? Oh right, because you were born in America. If you had been born in the middle east, you'd be a muslim right now.

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RE: A Question For Atheists and Agnostics

(02-24-2012 09:31 AM)IamNoone Wrote:  I think some of you guys missed the point. The question is basically whether it it is better to exist forever, but still exist,with the worst imaginable suffering or to not exist at all.

Then again, there is a decent chance I am being trolled.

isn't that a pretty obvious? Torture or not torture rofl.
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(02-24-2012 09:35 AM)StadiumArcadium Wrote:  I don't see how you can worship something you've never seen or heard, there's NO evidence that he exists, there's actually evidence that he doesn't exist...where is God? Where's heaven?
What proof do you have? What evidence did you gather before deciding to be a christian? What your parents believed?
Is the bible your proof? Is faith your proof? The bible says the world is 6000 years old. Fundamentalist christians dismiss scientific theories and facts as nonsense if it contradicts their 2000 year old bible written by some stupid fucking ancient people.
Why didn't you pick one of the other thousands of religions out there? Oh right, because you were born in America. If you had been born in the middle east, you'd be a muslim right now.
Key words in my first post were "Hypothetical Scenario"

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I would choose to live in hell. After a while you would become so numb to the torture it wouldn't have any effect.

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Fuck that shit, i'd rather not exist than exist in torture.

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I'd rather not exist, either.

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Since when is chilling with the devil eternal suffering?
I bet he/she loves to party.
Where as partying with God is like joining the Clan of 99 Virgins.

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Not exist. I wouldn't have a conscious mind or conscious anything to know I didn't exist, so it wouldn't matter.

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I'll just laugh at you all from the heavens of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Fuck this whole "only Christians go to heaven" shit. Or, I'll just end up in Nirvana. Or be reborn. It would be boring if I knew. Most probably, I'll just turn to dust anyways. If not mummified.

Eternal suffering he? Hm, do drugs count as eternal suffering? If so, I'd choose torture, so I can try all of them without consequences. Also, if the devil punishes bad guys (and girls, lol), he must be considered good somehow...

Ah crap, this is gonna disturb me on my morning walk...

Non Existence. Then I'll know what I get. No more stupid people. Just combined with nothingness - the nonexistence, and there for, the "I-don't-have-to-give-a-fuck-about-anything-ness" . Sounds great to me.

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Speaking about death, I wanna be some old funny old man just trolling people and dancing everywhere I go. Grabbing some young ass and being a completely badass fun old man.
And when I'm about to die, I'll do it by beating some one famous and then instead of going to prison to die I'll drug overdose.
Oh yeah lol

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Derp that christian logic.
Also hold the plane to nirvana for me.

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In the words of George Carlin, "I do this stupid thing sometimes, it's called thinking." The reason I don't believe in any religion is because there's no logic in it.

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I found a picture for tungsten balls
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*goes to hell*
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I love how almost everyone refuses to answer either-or questions and comes up with alternative scenarios or some other way to bypass the question. Laugh

(I wouldn't want to choose between either of those things either... I'll say "send me back to earth, I'll respawn as someone else) Razz

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(02-24-2012 09:35 AM)StadiumArcadium Wrote:  I don't see how you can worship something you've never seen or heard, there's NO evidence that he exists, there's actually evidence that he doesn't exist...where is God? Where's heaven?
What proof do you have? What evidence did you gather before deciding to be a christian? What your parents believed?
Is the bible your proof? Is faith your proof? The bible says the world is 6000 years old. Fundamentalist christians dismiss scientific theories and facts as nonsense if it contradicts their 2000 year old bible written by some stupid fucking ancient people.
Why didn't you pick one of the other thousands of religions out there? Oh right, because you were born in America. If you had been born in the middle east, you'd be a muslim right now.

chill man chill xD

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troll god shalt smite thee!!!
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Obviously, organized religion is flawed. But you refuse to take a look at deism.

We don't believe in religions. We put emphasis on evolutionism. We don't believe in miracles. We're supporters of the clockwise theory (g00gle i7)

How's that flawed? I'd even say it's pretty close to atheism.
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(02-25-2012 10:43 PM)bulgvar666 Wrote:  Obviously, organized religion is flawed. But you refuse to take a look at deism.

We don't believe in religions. We put emphasis on evolutionism. We don't believe in miracles. We're supporters of the clockwise theory (g00gle i7)

How's that flawed? I'd even say it's pretty close to atheism.

Worshiping a unfounded, untestable deity; you guys still don't get off the hook.

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Disprove God or stfu once again
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None of us could. I keep telling you that's a bullshit excuse to believe in god and all of us told you that more than once already.

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