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To everyone who joined these forums at some point, and got discouraged by the negativity and left after a while (or even got literally scared off): I'm sorry.
I wasn't good enough at encouraging people to be kinder, and removing people who refuse to be kind. Encouraging people is hard, and removing people creates conflict, and I hate conflict... so that's why I wasn't better at it.
I was a very, very sensitive teen. The atmosphere of this forum as it is now, if it had existed in 1996, would probably have upset me far more than it would have helped.
I can handle quite a lot of negativity and even abuse now, but that isn't the point. I want to help people. I want to help the people who need it the most, and I want to help people like the 1996 version of me.
I'm still figuring out the best way to do that, but as it is now, these forums are doing more harm than good, and I can't keep running them.
Thank you to the few people who have tried to understand my point of view so far. I really, really appreciate you guys. You are beautiful people.
Everyone else: If after everything I've said so far, you still don't understand my motivations, I think it's unlikely that you will. We're just too different. Maybe someday in the future it might make sense, but until then, there's no point in arguing about it. I don't have the time or the energy for arguing anymore. I will focus my time and energy on people who support me, and those who need help.
-SoulRiser
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bad responses: Quit. I'll toss you a coin and a French Fry next time I see ya. Or maybe you will be the next Bill Gates.
Fine, don't go to school and stay a dumbass. That will allow you to be manipulated even more.
So quit and deliver pizza.
my responses: Your point is that school is needed, that is an is statement we are talking about ethics so we need an ought statement.
Their ought not to be a government monopoly on education that brainwashes kids not seeing the gun in the room (government).
I can't quit until i turn 18 so I'm going to subvert school and learn on my own until then
I don't think it should be reformed, it is immoral and wrong, its funded by the extortion of money and will always serve the interests of the 1% brainwashing children, we need private alternatives and anarchistic free schools
I'm an agorist, so neither
great responce:
Why do some of you regard what are a healthy, normal reactions to the enforced states of physical & psychological captivity entailed in compulsory "education" as some type of defective, infantile raving?
Seems to me that "mature", sensitive, & aware people would give more time & thought to ideas that object to our system(s) of "education" as being infantile itself - limited & limiting - an ignorant breaking of the individual into a machinelike existence, & to be begun at a young age. Is this what you regard as the the cultivation of an advanced, enlightened civilization?
When will people become more aware? And begin regarding these states of enforced captivity as responsible for many of the worst problems we now face in our world, largely as the result of a mechanistic view of life?
There is a relationship, IMO, between human captivity & our compulsion to keep animals, nature, & the environment more & more captive & controlled. I'd say that what we consider school/education is more a reflection of our misguided (& disastrous) approach to the treatment of all living things as pieces of machinery, to be ground down into standardized units by force & fear.
my response: thx for saying what i'm trying to say better than i ever could
RE: good and bad responces on education from occupy
(02-22-2012 09:27 PM)iexist Wrote: Why do some of you regard what are a healthy, normal reactions to the enforced states of physical & psychological captivity entailed in compulsory "education" as some type of defective, infantile raving?
Seems to me that "mature", sensitive, & aware people would give more time & thought to ideas that object to our system(s) of "education" as being infantile itself - limited & limiting - an ignorant breaking of the individual into a machinelike existence, & to be begun at a young age. Is this what you regard as the the cultivation of an advanced, enlightened civilization?
When will people become more aware? And begin regarding these states of enforced captivity as responsible for many of the worst problems we now face in our world, largely as the result of a mechanistic view of life?
There is a relationship, IMO, between human captivity & our compulsion to keep animals, nature, & the environment more & more captive & controlled. I'd say that what we consider school/education is more a reflection of our misguided (& disastrous) approach to the treatment of all living things as pieces of machinery, to be ground down into standardized units by force & fear.
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RE: good and bad responces on education from occupy
Lol occupy: The failed movement of 25 - 45 year olds who are pissed off because they realized that $50000 English degree they earned is absolutely worthless.
RE: good and bad responces on education from occupy
(02-23-2012 08:44 AM)Aya Wrote: Lol occupy: The failed movement of 25 - 45 year olds who are pissed off because they realized that $50000 English degree they earned is absolutely worthless.
RE: good and bad responces on education from occupy
(02-23-2012 08:44 AM)Aya Wrote: Lol occupy: The failed movement of 25 - 45 year olds who are pissed off because they realized that $50000 English degree they earned is absolutely worthless.
I loled. Though change that $50,000 to $100,000 for many of them.
I was almost one of those. Spending $100,000 for a shit English or Teaching degree. My parents threatened to not pay for my college if I dropped out of the expensive fucking worthless school. I dropped out anyway after a year because $100,000 for those degrees is a waste of money. They still pay for my college.