Thoughts on religion/beliefs

[Land Of The NotSoFree]

I'm not the best at explaining things... but I will try. I think too much and sometimes amaze myself with what I come up with, so I have decided to write down some things.

The world has different people, not everybody will be the same. Sometimes I would see people preach to others about their religion(most commonly Christianity), usually because they are atheist. You know before I always thought to myself "Why are people atheist?", but I ask that no more. People can believe in anything they want, nobody knows for sure what happens in the afterlife, or what happened long ago, but it's ok to believe in SOMETHING. Usually I see atheists look down upon every religion as if those who believe in a god are beneath them, and vice versa. I'm a christian yet I'm open to others opinions and I am willing to listen, I sometimes question some aspects of my religion in a "What if" manner. Why can't the world just...well get along when it comes to religion? It's ok to ask questions, but you have to be able to listen to others views and opinions too, because again nobody knows whats right for sure. Believing in a religion gives people hope as well, let them have that. Let atheists be atheists, don't try to convert people. Let them be who they are

[thriller222]

I believe that there is a god, I just dont know what it is. I do not however, believe that god is some weird spooky old guy with a fetish for fire and brimstone. I dont believe god is a person like entity either; I believe its a force. And I believe the afterlife is what you percieve it to be. If you fear hell all your life, then you will probably wake up in the lake of fire some day.

[Levio_Sah]

The reason people don't get along when it comes to religion is because the rulers don't want them to. If people stopped fighting among each other they would fight the power.

[Elfy]

I'm agnostic.

The greatest question of all is how did the universe begin. How did everything come to existence. Why was it 'you' with a conscious mind that was born? Some how we happen to be intelligent beings with the ability to reason and question. No one really knows what happens after death which leads to the fact anything could happen after death. It might all be a hoax.

There are too many possibilities, and each possibility is equal to me because I will never be 100% certain on what created or how the universe came to be.

We only percieve the world through our five senses. I'm willing to bet that there are some things invisible to us, things we have no concept idea or even a thought about. If you was deaf and blind from birth, you would never have a concept of sound or sight. You will never know it existed. What I'm trying to get across is there may be things we never know about that exist.

The fact is anybody's beliefs and guesses are valid. If you want to go on a spiritual journey, don't hold back. I stay away from organised religion. I've dabbled in paganism, I saw the natural aspect of it appealing and you can form you beliefs based on your own experiences from the journey you go on. To me paganism is pretty interesting and I want to explore it further because when you base it on experience you have the ultimate proof for yourself right there.

I'm cool about religion and athiesm. Believe what you want.

[aaaaaaasd]

I don't really mind what you believe in, just as long as you don't force it on others

[LOON_ATTIC]

Watch on YouTube

Actually, pretty much what the person above me says... but meh. I don't look at Christianity very positively, and many people here don't. Meh.

[Efs]

Is there a beginning? Then what was before that?
If there was a God, since when did he exist? Who made him?

[SoulRiser]

Quote:I don't really mind what you believe in, just as long as you don't force it on others

Pretty much this.

I think all the religions are actually based on the same God (or being, or 'force' or whatever), but they just interpreted it differently due to langage/culture differences or whatever. And it's really sad how they fight and kill each other over it...

Also, atheism is actually a belief. It's a belief that there is no God... Or it could be a refusal to even consider the possibility a god (or anything other than physical stuff that science can prove) might exist. It's no more open-minded than people who insist their god is the only true god and all that stuff.

[Miller0700]

Derchin Wrote:I take my atheist stance.

You guys (Not people here, obviously) say that a god exists, but you can't agree on what it is, where it is, what it wants, and what are its properties. So I doubt what you're saying is true.

I disbelieve in a god or gods until you can first, explain what this god or gods actually is/are, and two, prove that it/they exists.

[SoulRiser]

Seriously, everyone needs to agree on something before you'll believe in it? Then damn, you must not believe in anything at all...

[Elfy]

You don't need to agree to have a concept.

[Levio_Sah]

Also, remember that not all religious people believe in God. I don't. Me, the other Pagans, the Bhuddists, and all the other religious people who aren't mono (and andro)theistic would like to stress this.

[SH☮TGUNHEⒶRT]

Spirituality > Religion

[Stadium]

I try to respect other's opinions, but I usually find it difficult when you believe in something as hypocritical and idiotic as the bible. How you can believe there is a God when there is literally no evidence to support that God, and an amazing amount of evidence (that you're too ignorant to acknowledge) against that God is beyond me.
Don't take it personally, I think all religions are incredibly stupid, not just Christianity.

[Miller0700]

What gets me with some people is that they like to pull out the "But I have faith" or "But you can't disprove it" card when they know their beliefs are bullshit.

I had a discussion like this in another thread.

[.Manicrose.]

I BELIEVE IN A LITTLE GREEN GOBLIN WHO LIVES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE MOON AND EATS FROZEN PEAS AND TURNIP CAKE AND WILL WEAR ONLY THE LATEST FASHIONS FROM CHANEL AND GUCCI BECAUSE HE IS FAH-BULOUS

DISPROVE IT I DARE YOU

[gore goroth]

(11-15-2011 10:47 AM).Manicrose. Wrote:  I BELIEVE IN A LITTLE GREEN GOBLIN WHO LIVES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE MOON AND EATS FROZEN PEAS AND TURNIP CAKE AND WILL WEAR ONLY THE LATEST FASHIONS FROM CHANEL AND GUCCI BECAUSE HE IS FAH-BULOUS

DISPROVE IT I DARE YOU

Proof that he exists:

[aaaaaaasd]

(11-15-2011 10:47 AM).Manicrose. Wrote:  I BELIEVE IN A LITTLE GREEN GOBLIN WHO LIVES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE MOON AND EATS FROZEN PEAS AND TURNIP CAKE AND WILL WEAR ONLY THE LATEST FASHIONS FROM CHANEL AND GUCCI BECAUSE HE IS FAH-BULOUS

DISPROVE IT I DARE YOU

how can he live on the moon when there is no oxygen

[Stadium]

(11-16-2011 02:11 AM)BaronVonStrangle Wrote:  

(11-15-2011 10:47 AM).Manicrose. Wrote:  I BELIEVE IN A LITTLE GREEN GOBLIN WHO LIVES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE MOON AND EATS FROZEN PEAS AND TURNIP CAKE AND WILL WEAR ONLY THE LATEST FASHIONS FROM CHANEL AND GUCCI BECAUSE HE IS FAH-BULOUS

DISPROVE IT I DARE YOU

how can he live on the moon when there is no oxygen

Goblins don't need oxygen you fool! They live off of moon cheese.

[Jesusaurisrex]

I
CANT
ARGUE
WITH
THE
PERFECT
SPIRALS
OF
THE
UNIVERSE

[.Manicrose.]

(11-16-2011 02:27 AM)StadiumArcadium Wrote:  

(11-16-2011 02:11 AM)BaronVonStrangle Wrote:  

(11-15-2011 10:47 AM).Manicrose. Wrote:  I BELIEVE IN A LITTLE GREEN GOBLIN WHO LIVES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE MOON AND EATS FROZEN PEAS AND TURNIP CAKE AND WILL WEAR ONLY THE LATEST FASHIONS FROM CHANEL AND GUCCI BECAUSE HE IS FAH-BULOUS

DISPROVE IT I DARE YOU

how can he live on the moon when there is no oxygen

Goblins don't need oxygen you fool! They live off of moon cheese.

Damn, beat me to it.

[LOON_ATTIC]

(11-16-2011 02:55 AM)Jesusaurisrex Wrote:  I
CANT
ARGUE
WITH
THE
PERFECT
SPIRALS
OF
THE
UNIVERSE

ERNST
HAECKEL
IS
A
GOOD
EXAMPLE

[Darksoul]

It takes a belief to believe in something. Atheists are arrogant in my eyes because they think they have all the knowledge. And The one with a religion is just a stupid fanatic.

[DUBAS]

(11-18-2011 03:49 AM)Darksoul Wrote:  It takes a belief to believe in something. Atheists are arrogant in my eyes because they think they have all the knowledge. And The one with a religion is just a stupid fanatic.

So what exactly are you?

[Levio_Sah]

(11-18-2011 03:52 AM)DUBAS Wrote:  

(11-18-2011 03:49 AM)Darksoul Wrote:  It takes a belief to believe in something. Atheists are arrogant in my eyes because they think they have all the knowledge. And The one with a religion is just a stupid fanatic.

So what exactly are you?

First of all, being an atheist means you don't believe in a deity. You can still believe in a soul and an afterlife.

Secondly, the belief that all religious people are "stupid fanatics" is just false.

[Reptorian]

First of all, some people define atheist as a person with the positive rejection of deity which is still considered the belief that there is no god.

Second of all, he's just mocking the viewpoint regarding religious views.

[LOON_ATTIC]

Don't make me go all NIGGERS again

[Reptorian]

Doesn't change the fact of what I have said. Even I define atheist as the position of positively rejecting god and many others as well even though they would disagree with some of the other self-claimed atheists. Keep in mind people fail to distinguish anti-theism with the standard definition of atheism for you folks which is why some finds themselves to be defining atheism as anti-theism while some defines non-theism is someone who doesn't make a conclusion on god's existance or has never heard of word 'god'. There's a thread that shows different interpretations are valid- http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showth...nti-Theist I consider my position to be of a non-theist rather than atheist.

[LOON_ATTIC]

okay
I tend to just not think much about it because there isn't much to think about.
And I get along with 'christfags' well enough if they aren't huge faggots. It's not like I'll be mocking their religion all the time unless they mock me for being an agnostic/atheist, except if they just use their religion to back up something I personally disagree with/DON'T LIKE.

[Reptorian]

Didn't I mention that I am not considered religious and I don't even consider myself agnostic or athiest? Not a theist either.