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RE: 48/2(9+3)

(10-15-2011 06:53 AM)Ayliana Wrote:  
(10-15-2011 06:39 AM)Prince Rilian Wrote:  What's up with the percent sign? I've only ever seen that in C and it means remainder, not division.

It's the lazy mans way of typing a division sign without using a backslash.

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But .. it requires more effort to type % than to type /.
(10-15-2011 07:05 AM)night.artist Wrote:  Ok it's like this.
48/2(9+3)
Parenthesis first which gives you 48/2(12)
No exponents so skip that. Then it's Multiplication or division. Depends what comes first in the problem. Sinceit's read from left to right division comes first which gives you 24(12) In this case the parenthesis indicate multiplication 24 * 12. And that gives you 288.

There, thats how you do order of ops the RIGHT way. Believe me, I should know. I absolutely LOVE doing problems like this. And I've been taught every year since 7th grade, that's like 4 years. And I always get these right.

So that's that. The answer is 288. Smile

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This is definitely a successful troll... because nobody in their right mind would actually write a serious equation like that. It's far too ambiguous. If I was using an equation in a program, I'd shove brackets around everything to make it obvious what should be done in what order. Yeah, the program will do it the right way regardless, but brackets just make it a shitload easier to follow WTF is going on when you look at your code 6 months later while half asleep. Razz

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(10-15-2011 09:42 AM)SoulRiser Wrote:  So yeah... successful troll. Wink

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2 WHY THE FUCK DID I ASSUME / WAS * :o fucking fatigue. Yeah. I feel fatigued as shit.
oh wait with a TI or some shit it'd be 48/2=24(12)= I'LL TRY A FUCKING TI EMULATOR HURR
LOL AWOL. I have no fucking idea how this could cause so much trouble. Congratulations Biggrin

I inputted it into a TI-83plus emulator and got 288, HURR
However, if it looked like:
48
2(9+3)

Then the result'd be 2.
But it's not. Parenthesis Exponentials Multiply Divide Addition Subtraction? Really?


So 3 - 4 + 2 = -3?
Nope. It returns 1. I though multiplication and division had the same level of order of operations...
I'd probably have gotten 1152 had I actually tried to calculate it like I first tried to... durr.

So it'd be PE(MD)(AS) or something.
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I was right though- depends on what the writer means.
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To clarify. 48 divided by 2 open parentheses 9 plus 3 close parentheses. If that helps.



Also, the trick is that 2(9+3) is one entire statement, so it comes before the 48/.

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(10-15-2011 12:26 PM)AWOL Wrote:  To clarify. 48 divided by 2 open parentheses 9 plus 3 close parentheses. If that helps.



Also, the trick is that 2(9+3) is one entire statement, so it comes before the 48/.

My boyfriend, who has a phD in math, disagrees.

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Ya'll niggas is stupid. Look:

Equation: 48/2(9+3)

1.) 48/2(12) which = 48/2x12
2.) Multiplication comes before division, therefore:
3.) 48/24
4.) 48/24 = 2
5.) It's fucking 2.

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N.a have fun with decimals. These vague paragraph problems in Algebra 1 are more you a bitch then Ayliana.

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ITT: Vague questions, n.a acting like she knows something, mass butthurt.


Buuuuuuut, wow SS, you've shown more an understanding of PEMDAS/BODMAS/BIDMAS than most other online communities. Good job.

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(10-15-2011 02:54 PM)Absentinsomniac Wrote:  Ya'll niggas is stupid. Look:

Equation: 48/2(9+3)

1.) 48/2(12) which = 48/2x12
2.) Multiplication comes before division, therefore:
3.) 48/24
4.) 48/24 = 2
5.) It's fucking 2.

Who the fuck assumes 48/2 is a fucking fraction anyway? It's almost always going to mean division in that type of an equation.
who the fuck says that multiplication comes before division, it's like saying addition comes before subtraction, and it doesn't.
My TI emulator says otherwise, and supposedly it blindly fucking follows order of operations. I was never taught that PEMDAS MEMDAS BLAHDAS shit, although I was taught order of operations, and I'm taking precalculus. Meh.
and fractions/division are close and shit.

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(10-15-2011 02:54 PM)Absentinsomniac Wrote:  Ya'll niggas is stupid. Look:

Equation: 48/2(9+3)

1.) 48/2(12) which = 48/2x12
2.) Multiplication comes before division, therefore:
3.) 48/24
4.) 48/24 = 2
5.) It's fucking 2.

Who the fuck assumes 48/2 is a fucking fraction anyway? It's almost always going to mean division in that type of an equation.

Multiplication doesn't come before division, they are ranked equally.

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(10-15-2011 03:14 PM)Lunatic Wrote:  
(10-15-2011 02:54 PM)Absentinsomniac Wrote:  Ya'll niggas is stupid. Look:

Equation: 48/2(9+3)

1.) 48/2(12) which = 48/2x12
2.) Multiplication comes before division, therefore:
3.) 48/24
4.) 48/24 = 2
5.) It's fucking 2.

Who the fuck assumes 48/2 is a fucking fraction anyway? It's almost always going to mean division in that type of an equation.
who the fuck says that multiplication comes before division
My TI emulator says otherwise, and supposedly it blindly fucking follows order of operations. I was never taught that PEMDAS MEMDAS BLAHDAS shit and I'm taking precalculus. Meh.
and fractions/division are close and shit

My retarded ass school did bra, take it up with them lol. I fucking suck at math anyways...

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(10-15-2011 03:15 PM)Prince Rilian Wrote:  
(10-15-2011 02:54 PM)Absentinsomniac Wrote:  Ya'll niggas is stupid. Look:

Equation: 48/2(9+3)

1.) 48/2(12) which = 48/2x12
2.) Multiplication comes before division, therefore:
3.) 48/24
4.) 48/24 = 2
5.) It's fucking 2.

Who the fuck assumes 48/2 is a fucking fraction anyway? It's almost always going to mean division in that type of an equation.

Multiplication doesn't come before division, they are ranked equally.

Fucking this. Seriously.

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Over-analyzing a seemingly simple math problem. Its like 1st period today all over again.

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Key word is 'seemingly' Phrozen.


Not even professors who have taught math for decades can agree on this one.

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I can agree on it right now. It's 2. I win.

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I also think it's 2. A fair amount of people don't. It's because the order of operations is an arbitrary rule, and this never got decided on.


But it's still pretty easy to figure out if you take it logically.

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Also, x divided by y IS a fraction.

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Pretty much yeah... I propose we make a new order of operations:

PENIS: Parentheses, Edition, Niggers, Italics, Six

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I already took it as logically as I could. Texas instruments r00lz ze universe and when I put it on the TI-83 plus emulator I compiled from source and downloaded the firmware from TI's website because I'm a flithy cheap luser who can't afford a calculator had to, and it returned 288... Exactly like what it looks on the title... it returned 288. Hurr.
You can look at 2(9+3) as a single statement but it's still just multiplication when you put a number next to a parenthesis. Meh.

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Yup, agreed. PENIS is the new order of operations.

I think we can solve this seriously though.

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Addition and Subtraction.

I mean, it was arbitrary before, it can still be arbitrary now.

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(10-15-2011 03:28 PM)AWOL Wrote:  Yup, agreed. PENIS is the new order of operations.

I think we can solve this seriously though.

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Oooo. If you do it that way, then it's unambiguously 2!

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(10-15-2011 03:30 PM)Prince Rilian Wrote:  
(10-15-2011 03:28 PM)AWOL Wrote:  Yup, agreed. PENIS is the new order of operations.

I think we can solve this seriously though.

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Oooo. If you do it that way, then it's unambiguously 2!

Yup.

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Why can't you divide by zero? I mean, taking zero into a number would...uh... crap. Wtf math?

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(10-15-2011 03:40 PM)Phrozen_Soul Wrote:  Why can't you divide by zero? I mean, taking zero into a number would...uh... crap. Wtf math?


My thoughts on the matter: Zero should do nothing to any number, even if you multiply it... Think about it, if you have five sticks, and you multiply them by zero, do they disappear? Razz

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(10-15-2011 03:40 PM)Phrozen_Soul Wrote:  Why can't you divide by zero? I mean, taking zero into a number would...uh... crap. Wtf math?

You can't divide by zero because division is defined in terms of multiplication. x/0 = ? There's no unique number that you could multiply 0 by to get x. If x is anything other than zero, there's no way to multiply something by zero to get x. If x is zero, then you can multiply zero by ANYTHING to get x, but division is defined with there being a unique answer.

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(10-15-2011 03:40 PM)Phrozen_Soul Wrote:  Why can't you divide by zero? I mean, taking zero into a number would...uh... crap. Wtf math?


My thoughts on the matter: Zero should do nothing to any number, even if you multiply it... Think about it, if you have five sticks, and you multiply them by zero, do they disappear? Razz

If you multiply them by 1, you get 5. If you multiply them by .5, you get .5. Therefore 5 by 0 = 0

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