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Renegade of Funk · 02-28-2006 11:14 AM

OK, I know the name of this website seems pretty bad:

http://www.troubledteenschools.com

But the resources are really good. They've got all kinds of schools:

Military Schools
Boarding Schools
Christian Schools
Wilderness Programs
Boot Camps
Residential Treatment

The only thing is, you have to register to get the full info on every school...but even if you don't register, you still get their web address, for the alternative school/education.

I just found a school here in my area which I am going to apply for before my Junior year in high school. I can't wait, because it's a residential school in Maryland (wna.org), and it seems really nice.

Warning: Rant!

I am serious about my education, only when it comes to something I'm interested in....you know, this public school system is crappy. Crowded schools, and classrooms, distant teachers who are not one-on-one, and just teach from a distance.

Teachers who hand you a damn worksheet and say "Ok, work on this for the rest of class while I go sit my fat ass down on the computer".

Teachers who, when you ask a question, explain the subject to you in an even more vague way than they did in front of the class when you didn't get it the first time.

Teachers who...just plain suck.

And Classrooms that are...just plain crowded, and LOUD, and OBNOXIOUS.

I seriously CANNOT work in that enviornment. It SUCKS. I'm not here to goof off. I'm here to LEARN. And I'm not LEARNING. I don't come here everyday and WASTE an entire lifetime for NOTHING. (Well, obviously, right now, I do)

**SoulRiser** · 02-28-2006 01:15 PM

Renegade of Funk Wrote:But the resources are really good. They've got all kinds of schools:

Military Schools
Boarding Schools
Christian Schools
Wilderness Programs
Boot Camps
Residential Treatment

Those are NOT alternative schools. Those are behavior modification programs that parents send their kids to in order to turn them into good, obedient kiddies. They often work using methods of torture and abuse. Don't let them fool you, and whatever you do, DON'T SIGN UP!

More info:
http://troubled-teen-help.awardspace.com/
http://www.alternet.org/story/31000/
http://teenliberty.org
http://www.school-survival.net/director ... ification/

I'm planning on making a whole site section devoted to telling parents how these places operate so that they don't send their kids there.

Renegade of Funk · 02-28-2006 01:43 PM

Trust me, they're alternative.

The on I'm going to is a COLLEGE PREP academy. It's not some freaking correction facility. It's for students who are serious about their education. It's no bootcamp.

The Boarding schools are, IMO, great alternatives for people who are sick and tired of bullshit education in over-crowded public school systems.

**SoulRiser** · 02-28-2006 01:53 PM

ok, if you say so... but the whole site is about "troubled" teens, so don't mind my concern... Uhoh

Residential Treatment, Military Schools, that all smells of behavior modification to me... where's the section on alternative schools?

wna.org looks harmless though Smile

hope you like it there Cool

Rebelnerd · 03-01-2006 11:35 AM

NO DON'T DO IT!!! seriously dude, watch brat camp one of these days. you DON'T want to go there, those places are for kids that can't be broken down by school, they're job is to brainwash you by any means necessary! and i'm not talking about detention and extra homework: PEOPLE DIE IN THOSE PLACES. i am not joking, read the news. the last thing anyone wants is some new poor kids body all over the news, don't let it be you.

**SoulRiser** · 03-01-2006 02:28 PM

yeah, behavior mod camps are evil. but it seems that site was listing 'normal' private schools as well, and the one he's planning on going to looks like a normal private school, no mention of trying to "fix" anything...

but then again.... Suspicious

Rebelnerd · 03-01-2006 09:57 PM

as a general rule, if they support those places, you don't want to be living in a n area cotrolled by them.

satryicon_45 · 03-13-2006 08:15 AM

i think those skewls r a bad idea cuz if the go to a schoolw it like uniforms and shit thren that takes away ther independence

Rebelnerd · 03-13-2006 08:47 AM

they take away more than independance!

DevilDriver · 03-13-2006 08:48 AM

If you're strong enough willed, you escape.

Rebelnerd · 03-13-2006 08:50 AM

unless you're drugged up beyond all coherant thought. yes, a lot of us here would try to escape, and probably could, but people shouldn't have to be put in that situation.

DevilDriver · 03-13-2006 08:51 AM

They shouldn't have gotten themselves in that situation then.

Rebelnerd · 03-13-2006 08:54 AM

what do you mean? that they should just give up and do whatever people tell them to do out of fear of going to the camps? that's how nazism works. it shouldn't be that way.

DevilDriver · 03-13-2006 09:08 AM

No, I'm saying, unless your strong enough to resist, you should try and play intelligently. Seeing as how most people lack intelligence when they go there...

Rebelnerd · 03-13-2006 10:19 AM

it's not about intelligence. it sure helps, but it's not always enough. when they come for you, they don't jsut ask nicely. ever heard of JTO's? and besides what about the kids with real mental diseases that get sent there? they may not be able to think well enough to escape.

DevilDriver · 03-13-2006 01:02 PM

Then they will be given medication to ease their pain, and then they will be issued new instructions on how to act.
Now, when they come for you, you have to realize there is always a loophole, an immune part to the human process, the broken link, if you will. You have to realize how easy it is to exploit the Marines and such who run the boot camps.

Rebelnerd · 03-13-2006 09:56 PM

i'm sure the kids try, but from what i hear it's not that easy. they're allowed to use physical force so they do have weight behind their threats.

Semper_in_Theatro · 03-17-2006 01:55 PM

Yikes. Um, what about alternative education that isn't massively fascist? I assumed this thread was going to be about viable alternative learning resources, like Montessori-style centres and such (revealing myself as the flaky west-coast hippie chica that I am...). Doesn't anyone here have contact with nice alternative schools?

modest mouse · 03-18-2006 06:20 AM

wow you sond like a teacher...btw welcom to the site...

just remember that the best of lifes discoveries...were not made in school

Semper_in_Theatro · 03-18-2006 07:39 AM

Haha! No, not a teacher, just a life-long unschooler who's sold out and gone to college *shame*

**SoulRiser** · 03-18-2006 09:31 AM

welcome to the site Smile

hah, yeah i guess this topic could be a bit misleading Razz

i've heard good things about Montessori, a friend of mine's sister taught at one... at the time though, I hadn't a clue what Montessori even was, and i still don't know a whole lot. do you know of any good sites about it? this site could use links to more alternatives.

modest mouse · 03-18-2006 10:50 AM

still sounds like a teacher but w/e

ur cool...wit me....

if 1 in 4 people suffer from diheriha...do the other 3 enjoy it?

good for the quote thingy...brings humor to the site

Rebelnerd · 03-18-2006 11:39 AM

don't feel bad about collage, if all school was college style, (voluntary and less structured) then there'd be nothing to complain about. Cool

Semper_in_Theatro · 03-18-2006 01:18 PM

SoulRiser Wrote:welcome to the site

hah, yeah i guess this topic could be a bit misleading i've heard good things about Montessori, a friend of mine's sister taught at one... at the time though, I hadn't a clue what Montessori even was, and i still don't know a whole lot. do you know of any good sites about it? this site could use links to more alternatives.

Er, I don't really know that much about Montessori myself (in my circle, growing up, the Montessori kids were the weird conservative ones whose parents voted Liberal and it was rumoured they owned cars), I mostly just mentioned it 'cause it's a name everyone knows. As I understand it, Maria Montessori was a doctor from the 19th century with some fairly original ideas about child-psychology (basically: that children are intellectually capable independent individuals, not blank slates, and should be facilitated in their own pursuits, rather than coerced onto a prescribed educational path), but I don't know from first hand at all. The e-text for the book is here, but it's a bit dry unless you're already interested in the philosphical ideals fueling her pedagogical concepts.

But, like, none of the fabulousest alternative schools are "big names," you have to find the weird little one-shot anticoersive-education organisations someone set up in the community room of a co-op or something, there's dozens if you look. I think Grace Llewellyn was keeping a master list for a while, but it got too overwhelming 'cause there's so Many and they're always changing.

**SoulRiser** · 03-19-2006 12:04 AM

Semper_in_Theatro Wrote:But, like, none of the fabulousest alternative schools are "big names," you have to find the weird little one-shot anticoersive-education organisations someone set up in the community room of a co-op or something, there's dozens if you look. I think Grace Llewellyn was keeping a master list for a while, but it got too overwhelming 'cause there's so Many and they're always changing.

it'd be great to have a decent list of all the alternative schools, even better if they have websites, but like you said, with so much change so often it'd be a nightmare to keep track of them all :(

the lists would have to be area-specific with one person in charge of tracking just their area, sort of like how about.com organizes their site. or a wiki that anyone can edit... hmm... ideas Biggrin

Semper_in_Theatro · 03-19-2006 02:26 AM

Yeah, it got to the point for Grace where it was like "if I try to do this right, I have to give up all my other projects" even with Taber. I'd be happy to be the cataloguer (shut up, yes of course that's English...) for my area, though.

**SoulRiser** · 03-19-2006 03:16 AM

hehe, yeah, that's why I'm afraid to start it, i have plenty to do as it is.

if you can maintain a list of your area, that's a good start already. i'll definitely link to it, unless i start a section for that, which i kinda doubt Razz

old fashioned pages work pretty well Biggrin

Semper_in_Theatro · 03-19-2006 02:18 PM

Eek, suddenly I'm webhosting? I don't even know how one goes about starting that...

**SoulRiser** · 03-20-2006 02:21 AM

well, a simple list could work well on a page or 2, heck you could put it in a text file and i'd host it here and you email me updates Smile

and then there's always free hosting places like geocities.com Razz

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