emotion control

[SoulRiser]

a few weeks ago i was reading some pages on empathy, and since a few days ago i've been noticing a lot of things i never paid attention to before. like how restaurants, cellphone shops, and many, many ads have photos of people smiling for no apparent reason. why is that? they're not showing off the products that way. those photos are there to subconsciously make the viewer feel the same emotion that it looks like the person in the photo is feeling. so when you look at the ad, or the large posters in the restaraunt, it "makes" you "feel" happy - even if you weren't happy before.

kinda scary, when you think about it.

it reminds me, when i was a lot younger and saw ads where people were smiling, it made me smile too. until one day i decided that was stupid, and refused to let myself smile when they did. eventually i became immune, and now i hate ads with stupid grinning models (well, i hate all ads anyway, but i hate those ones more)

anyone found more examples of this kind of thing in action?

[Abandoning Ship]

.....-looks to his right at his TV and watches a few ads-

Wow. You never cease to scare and/or creep me out with truth,Soul.

[Freak]

What about the anti-drug commercials where you see the classic "unhappy drug using teen"?
Here's a hint, if you smoke pot, you're not going to be unhappy, ok?
So point; empathy works both ways.

[SoulRiser]

freak-of-nature13 Wrote:What about the anti-drug commercials where you see the classic "unhappy drug using teen"?
Here's a hint, if you smoke pot, you're not going to be unhappy, ok?
So point; empathy works both ways.

good point. i had suspected there would be reasons to make people unhappy about something, i just couldn't think of any examples... so thanks for that

we actually don't have anti-drug commercials here. or at least, i've never seen one. the only "unhappy" people i can think of in ads are people with 'flu, and they never even look all that miserable anyway

[Freak]

Really? You mean in South Africa, the government doesn't always have a bullshit piece of proaganda that tries to depict all youth as sex-addicted, drug-using, criminals? Wow....

[Rebelnerd]

so they don't have those stupid ads like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVRO_a6pQB8 flooding your TV?

we had one once after 9/11 that had all these kids saying stuff like "i helped hijack airliners" "hey, it's my body" "I helped slaughter civilians in afghanistan" "it's just innocent fun" and "I helped blow up american buildings" then it said "where do terrorists get their money? if you buy drugs it might be from you."

[Cilaos]

no i think africa pours its money into important stuff like a cure for like aids and stuff
btw rebelnerd iv never seen that commercial
im pretty sure people dont go to that lenth to hide there drugs (not that you could without killing ur self) did you notice he left his credit card in the stall

[Rebelnerd]

yeah, but he wasn't hiding drugs in his head, he was "destroying himself."

and i don't think africa pours it's money into aids cures. in fact, i think it's the opposite. some tribes still believe that the only way to cure aids is to have sex with somebody who doesn't have it so it will leave them. the governments of most third world african countries like sudan and the congo don't give shit about their people, in fact they've comitted mass genocide against them for years.

[Mom]

The ads with people smiling and happy are used for selling the item or service. "You too will be this happy if you buy such and such." Yes, it's controlling. The sad thing is that it works for a lot of companies/businesses.

[modest mouse]

what about anti depression pill comercials...

[Freak]

this is....happening. Right. Now?
http://www.intl.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp/~hyo ... 411101.pdf
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0107996.html
(Read history)

Why does the US only fuck with other countries that are profit to us? (Like the Rwanda genocide)
Yes/No Should US interfere (just a little, to stop the arab fuckers that want the "ethnic cleansing")
Not like te situation in Iraq.

[SoulRiser]

freak-of-nature13 Wrote:Really? You mean in South Africa, the government doesn't always have a bullshit piece of proaganda that tries to depict all youth as sex-addicted, drug-using, criminals? Wow....

not at all. but what they DO advertise quite a lot is South Africa itself. like they play some really emotional song, and show a bunch of people working together, or getting along extremely well, or doing some selfless act of whatever, and at the end it displays something like "Proudly South African". as if it happens that often in real life

the best/worst ad is the one for Telkom (the phone line company). they show happy faces and all that, and then advertise themselves as the cheapest landline provider in the country. ... but they're still the ONLY landline provider in the country. compared to most other countries in the world, they're ludicrously expensive, just because they have the monopoly.

so yeah, just because it's all "positive" doesn't mean it isn't full of bullshit as well

[SoulRiser]

Rebelnerd Wrote:we had one once after 9/11 that had all these kids saying stuff like "i helped hijack airliners" "hey, it's my body" "I helped slaughter civilians in afghanistan" "it's just innocent fun" and "I helped blow up american buildings" then it said "where do terrorists get their money? if you buy drugs it might be from you."

... that's disturbing.

Rebelnerd Wrote:and i don't think africa pours it's money into aids cures. in fact, i think it's the opposite. some tribes still believe that the only way to cure aids is to have sex with somebody who doesn't have it so it will leave them. the governments of most third world african countries like sudan and the congo don't give shit about their people, in fact they've comitted mass genocide against them for years.

well, judging by the amount of corruption that we DO hear about (everyone guesses there's a lot more that doesn't get uncovered), i suspect much of our taxes goes toward financing new cars and mansions for the politicians and all their little friends.

and yeah, apparently lots of people with AIDS believe that they'll be cured if they have sex with a virgin. so they go rape babies.

BigWolf Wrote:Also, next time you're listening to your radio and you hear a commercial, listen for some sort of background sound. A cell phone ringer, a siren, something that will grab your attention. Radio commericalists know that people practically ignore those commercials, so as underhanded as they are, they add these little sounds to grab your attention so you'll listen a little more, then while you listen for sirens ot your cell phone, your mind takes in their advertising subconciously.

i don't listen to radio anymore, but i remember those from when i used to. and it's not like you can mute the ads like you can with TV, if you can't hear it, you don't know when the ads are over :(

that genocide, i had no idea that was happening, and i live closer to Sudan than you guys do...

i think SOMEONE should intervene, not necessarily the US though, because of how they tend to handle things like that

[Abandoning Ship]

Wowsers..That commercial..-shiver-

That 9/11 commercial: God, that's just sick. Sick, wrong and digusting. I mean, seriously, using 9/11, the inside job of the century, to scare kids out of drugs? They should be giving out facts..

[Rebelnerd]

yeah, the first time i saw it i was like WTF? everybody makes fun of it now, replacing drugs with gasoline and stuff like that.

there was this other one, it was like a mastercard commercial saying "ak-47 $100, bomb $40, ski mask $5, where do terrorists get their money..."

[Freak]

Quote: they have nothing to gain from helping the people of Sudan,

What about the pleasure of helping out fellow human beings? Oh wait... the US government doesn't care about human being unless they make profit! Sorry forgot about that ....
And Soulriser's right, besides kind of ironic that The US would try to install a democratic government in a foreign country, when the US isn't even a democracy. ...More like a Theocratic Dictatorship.

[Cilaos]

yea people seem to forget the government works for us
we dont work for them
but when people forgot that they realised that they could convert the system from democracy to monarchy
used to the people decided the law with votes now a bunch of old closed minded fucks decide the law and they dont give the people a say
:waah: :(

[Abandoning Ship]

What we should be fearing is.....THE HOLY JIHAD BRIGADE!!1


What a stupid name for terrorists..

[Rebelnerd]

like "Islamic fascists" trying to make an "Islamic Empire" of the world. bush loves terms like that.

[SurvivalWarrior]

theese conversations seem too intelligent for me.

[Liquid]

Rebelnerd Wrote:like "Islamic fascists" trying to make an "Islamic Empire" of the world. bush loves terms like that.

But that is basically what Osama Bin-Laden and the Base are trying to do, they want to set up a "Universal Caliphate" with one single "Amir al-Mu'minin" for all Islam; thus uniting the Sunnis and Shia. If the whole Islamic world united into a single Caliphate we'd be in big trouble.

The Base isn't losing much ground right now either.

[classclown]

yea most religions actully want it to be only their religion. in the islamic religion slaves are higher up then non-believers.

and america is a repersentitive republic

[Rebelnerd]

Muslims can't enslave other Muslims. It's against their religion. But they do have a history of treating their slaves much better than the Europeans did. They still had to work, but they were considered humans and not farm animals.

[classclown]

look it up

it's like muslims, converts, slaves, non-believers

[Hanny]

On this subject, I once saw an ad for fireplaces that was something like this: A woman in a bikini with 36DD chest or something (shooped. I think.) leaning on a fireplace; the ad was selling the fireplace. I lol'd so hard.

[classclown]

sexual appeal very strong indeed

[Stadium]

(08-31-2006 01:35 AM)Rebelnerd Wrote:  so they don't have those stupid ads like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVRO_a6pQB8 flooding your TV?

we had one once after 9/11 that had all these kids saying stuff like "i helped hijack airliners" "hey, it's my body" "I helped slaughter civilians in afghanistan" "it's just innocent fun" and "I helped blow up american buildings" then it said "where do terrorists get their money? if you buy drugs it might be from you."

Wow two bullshit propaganda lies in one!

[SH☮TGUNHEⒶRT]

DYSTOPIA

[.Manicrose.]

Well of course. The US only "helps" other countries if they can get something out of it themselves. They supported Mubarak ("an ally of ours, he is!") right up until the point when it was clear he was going to be overthrown. Then they were like "Mubarak? What an evil tyrant! No no no, the US never supported him, what are you talking about? We stand for freedom and democracy!"

It's like fucking Oceania over here...

[Story and Myth]

(11-15-2011 10:43 AM).Manicrose. Wrote:  Well of course. The US only "helps" other countries if they can get something out of it themselves.

Yep. If there's anyone here who can see past the glare of WWII, there's a little something called WWI, or The Great War as it was called before Hitler's rise to power. Europe started on another of its squabbles, something it has been fond of doing throughout history, except this time better weapons made defense reign supreme. Our president, Winston Churchill (a scholarly fellow, not a politician) worked tirelessly to sign treaties to keep everyone from killing each other, culminating in the Treaty of Versailles, which was supposed to keep Europe from caving in on itself. Unfortunately, the Allied Powers had a bit of a thing against Germany, and wanted revenge, so they didn't invite Germany to the treaty signing, and it ended up being pretty harsh on the Germans. One of the biggest, most important parts of the treaty was the founding of the League of Nations, which was supposed to be a big friendship pact saying, "We all agree not to hurt each other and to protect our members if one of us gets attacked." Even though our president was the driving force behind the treaty, Congress refused to pass it, since they would effectively be giving up the right to declare war. Also, since the U.S. had lent lots of money to the other Allies, we wanted our money back, and joining the League of Nations would have nullified those debts.
So basically, instead of joining the club our president founded, and giving up on monetary gain to help Europe get back on its feet, we went back into isolationism and allowed the other European countries to plunder Germany, causing German unrest, and of course, the rise of the Third Reich. All in the name of war debts and power.

And that, my friends, is what you learn if you can manage to stay awake in U.S. History.