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SS IS NOT SAFE FOR KIDS ANYMORE.
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SS IS NOT SAFE FOR KIDS ANYMORE.
PEOPLE DIE HERE.
No, but srsly. I'm pretty sure we all make fun of motherfuckers who come on here and post anti-school threads these days.
Especially if they don't lay out their arguments in a perfectly spelled, grammatically correct one paragraph critical essay that is easy to read.
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Absentinsomniac Wrote:PEOPLE DIE HERE.
No, but srsly. I'm pretty sure we all make fun of motherfuckers who come on here and post anti-school threads these days.
Especially if they don't lay out their arguments in a perfectly spelled, grammatically correct one paragraph critical essay that is easy to read.
Honestly I think people are too srs bsns with regards to the forums. Never in the five years that I've been here has anyone ever really taken this message board that seriously.
People really need to lighten up and laugh a little.
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Re: SS IS NOT SAFE FOR KIDS ANYMORE.
I don't think SS has ever been 'safe for kids' in the normally accepted way.... or ever will be.
There was a time when I think the atmosphere was friendlier overall though. I guess most of the friendly people left.
So... WE NEEDS TO FIND MOAR FRIENDLY PEEPUL!!!
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Eh, I enjoy it enough. I guess taking shit too seriously is a bad idea overall. Especially over the internets.
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SoulRiser Wrote:I don't think SS has ever been 'safe for kids' in the normally accepted way.... or ever will be.
There was a time when I think the atmosphere was friendlier overall though. I guess most of the friendly people left.
So... WE NEEDS TO FIND MOAR FRIENDLY PEEPUL!!!
Many of the old members have graduated or simply outgrown this place. So now they've all been replaced by entirely new people/community. SS will probably do this every 3 years.
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Maybe all of the old members grew up and turned into a bunch adults who think school is an absolutely awesome idea!!!
Meh. I'm really just a newbie, so I can't make any judgement.
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I can vouch for the whole "SS was a friendlier place when I was a newfag", because if that were false then people would have reacted to newfag me like they reacted to Rikron
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People become old fags, that's the problem, too many people become oldfags, forget what it was like to be a newfag.
Really, that's exactly it, because we had too few new people coming in that we're not used to it.
I saw soul do that thing about unhiding those links so new people flood in for a while.
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The atmosphere definitely used to be friendlier.
There aren't many supportive, informative places to go for those who hate school, or don't learn effectively there. Being trapped in a soul-crushing institution that doesn't serve one's educational purposes, with nowhere to turn for help, is a serious problem. It has long-term consequences, especially given that many who have a problem with school will want to (or have to) make their way outside similarly-structured work or education paths when they're older.
There must be some way to provide a safe online space for those who are struggling, sensitive, or just have a different sense of humor, to share their stories and get help without being scared away. SS has top Google results for relevant terms, and a welcoming mission statement. It's not a matter of serious vs. fun, but of welcoming and supportive vs. not. A forum's atmosphere affects who signs up, how many people sign up, who sticks around -- and who spreads the word.
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It would of course help if people were free to post in VIYH without being abused and having your thread derailed
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If one person decides to start being a dick/cunt on this forum, they can single-handedly derail the ENTIRE forum because of the lack of activity here.
Even though it's an unpopular opinion and we won't do it, I still think small bans should be given out if it's obvious a person is just here to be an asshole and not contribute to anything.
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Desu Wrote:Even though it's an unpopular opinion and we won't do it, I still think small bans should be given out if it's obvious a person is just here to be an asshole and not contribute to anything.
LOLTHIS
But it's never going to happen so
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I don't.
I think we should move posts in VIYH that shouldn't be there, sure, but I don't think we should ban anyone over it.
Banning, in my opinion, should be reserved for obvious trolls and spambots.
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Banning shouldn't be done for shitposting. If that started happening everyone would be gone.
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I have no problem with temporarily dwelling people who keep shitposting in VIYH and won't stop if asked to. I did that with Tiger_Mom. Even though that was an obvious troll, it could be used on real people too.
I mean, if they're shitposting faster than the mods can keep up with splitting the crap out (which is admittedly quite easy considering how lazy we all are) ... then yeah, dwell 'em for a bit.
If they make a new account, dwell that too. Dwelling is better than banning, IMO, because it still allows them to post somewhere.
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SKOOL SUXS END OF STORY
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DESTRUCTION IS NICE
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We could be more awesome...
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(02-01-2011 09:20 AM)Absentinsomniac Wrote: PEOPLE DIE HERE.
No, but srsly. I'm pretty sure we all make fun of motherfuckers who come on here and post anti-school threads these days.
Especially if they don't lay out their arguments in a perfectly spelled, grammatically correct one paragraph critical essay that is easy to read.
When did you notice this? Was it before I joined?
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(10-19-2011 10:34 AM)pilotguy182 Wrote: (02-05-2011 11:21 AM)Pieman Wrote: We could be more awesome...
True, true.
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(10-19-2011 11:59 AM)gore goroth Wrote: When did you notice this? Was it before I joined?
Probably before you joined. I think. It was a big deal at the time and most people are nicer to noobs now, so eh.
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I definitely think that SS needs to become friendlier and must work on getting rid of people that just flame others for opinions. Everybody has their own opinions and beliefs which is also another possible reason to be against school.
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I'm not new either... AT ALLLLLL
Oh and I created several threads of God and saw this forum through shittiness
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Pilot stop bumping old threads with I AGREE HERP DERP
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RE: SS IS NOT SAFE FOR KIDS ANYMORE.
Eh, I kind of have mixed feelings on this--and I think a lot of you guys have pretty terrible memories. When I used to come on here the most, while people weren't necessarily unkind (or at least not uniformly unkind), a lot of the way people interacted wasn't really what anyone would call nice. But it was mostly ok! It was for the most part just an accepted part of the culture of this place. I actually think some degree of trolling is a legitimate form of interaction but whatever.
Quote:I definitely think that SS needs to become friendlier and must work on getting rid of people that just flame others for opinions.
I'm pretty against this, actually. It borders on that whole sort of "hey look how open-minded and tolerant I am" mentality where you have to act like every opinion is equally valid even when those supposedly equally valid opinions are fundamentally incompatible, which is stupid and intellectually dishonest, not too mention most of the time it actually makes it's harder for people to state their opinions honestly. And I think most of the people still here now have vastly different ideas of what flaming and trolling are than I do.
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If you're not an SS native then GO BACK WHERE U CAME FROM
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