Chess

[Mogul]

Some retarded members of the Romanian Parliament have forwarded a proposal to the Ministry of Education demanding to add chess in the school schedule beginning in 2009 as a mandatory subject, one hour per week, as well as chess clubs.

I cannot describe in words how retarded this is. I'm not against the idea of adding chess as a subject - in fact I actually like it. But by any means, do not impose it, do not grade one's performance thus potentially labeling him as dumb or stupid, do not torment students more than they already are.

And above all, do not actually EXPECT students to like it or find it helpful in adulthood - that's the most retarded point by far. Life is not a big game of chess, where you command an army of pawn, bishops etc. at your disposal. The way I see chess is merely a pastime, not an intellectual activity meant to prepare students for adulthood (only exceptions are wannabes professional chess players imo.).

And if they are simply too retarded to fathom my point of view, at least add backgammon and / or checkers to that list. I wouldn't want to give school the satisfaction that I am actually thinking.

[Michio-kun]

Omg. Now students will hate chess like they hate math.

[liq3]

Stratovarius Wrote:Omg. Now students will hate chess like they hate math.

YAY!

[Happy Camper]

Chess does have skills and lessons built into it that math and english don't offer. Chess and other games are all about strategy. Will you have to play chess to succeed with life? No. But chess and other strategy games program your brain to approach problems differently. It's probably all subconscious but there is value in it.

Now whether or not, it should be mandatory...well...pbblt. Maybe it should be supplementary to another subject. We had a chess week in English if I recall correctly.

[Mogul]

Stratovarius Wrote:Omg. Now students will hate chess like they hate math.

Precisely... They're too blind to understand that.

Quote:Now whether or not, it should be mandatory...well...pbblt. Maybe it should be supplementary to another subject. We had a chess week in English if I recall correctly.

Like I said, I have nothing against it if it's mandatory, provided it's promoted in a fun, stress-free manner. The reality is very different, however...

[KitsuneSefam]

BEAT ME IN CHESS OR YOU HAVE 0 ON YOUR EXAM

MOVE YOUR QUEEN THERE BECAUSE I SAID SO

PLAY WITH MY STRATEGY OR YOU GET DETENTIONS

Chess or Nazi Germany Chess? That is the question

[youvebeenthunderstruck]

KitsuneSefam Wrote:BEAT ME IN CHESS OR YOU HAVE 0 ON YOUR EXAM

MOVE YOUR QUEEN THERE BECAUSE I SAID SO

PLAY WITH MY STRATEGY OR YOU GET DETENTIONS

Chess or Nazi Germany Chess? That is the question

Exactly. It's never "let's ask the students". Forget it. They're only the ones who have to, uh, GO TO SCHOOL IN THE FIRST FUCKING PLACE.

[Sunbourn]

Well, I really wouldn't mind if they did that here in the US, as long as it isn't nazi chess, and if they made it an elective, rather than mandatory. Forcing people to play chess is just plain wrong.

[Bob Dole]

LOLOLOL. I play chess quite frequently, won a 1st prize in a state comp. too, but this is just asinine. For fuck's sake, are we going back to the U.S.S.R. here?

[6moredetentions]

thro the peces at ppl and hit the techer with the bord....

[Bob Dole]

No. You shut up and go into the corner until you can figure out how to be intelligent.

[6moredetentions]

no!!!! i dont like corners!!!!! there r spiders and snke things!!!!!

[Faby]

Oh my FUCKING LORD

I hope you're joking.. You must be :|
YOU MUST FUCKING BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Tshah, like they'll ever catch me playing chess. Lessee how they fail me and shit. Like I care.


Maybe this way my parents will see how stupid the system is and let me drop out

[chibichibibear]

Well I find it incredibly odd they would make it required...like sure as an elective, but required?? If people don't really like playing in the first place, or lose a lot they'll probably grow to hate the game!! Which I actually like chess a lot, so I don't need more people making fun of it and the people that play.

Really, required is the only weird part.

Oh wait, it is just a proposal anyway, so maybe it won't pass? I hope it doesn't, because then I fear that something will go up like average grades and the US will think 'Oh! Chess=Better grades which TOTALLY= smarter kids! Let's do it too!!'

[anonomous]

this is Ridiculous i just cant see how a game could be educational.
i can hardly picture myself running up to my parents exclaiming 'mother, father, i've goten my report and it appears that ive gotten an E in chess'
this whole idea is bad, sooner or later they might aswell make pasttimes subjects in school such as origami (which i actually like)

[liq3]

Just wait! Soon "restroom" shall be a compulsory subject! Learn how to wash your hands. Be shown the proper folding and scrunching techniques. You'll even find out how much soap to use! All this coming to your school soon.

[Mogul]

@ Escapist:

http://www.protv.ro/filme/sahul-ar-pute ... file=55557

How retarded can you be to claim that? "Vor astepta aceste ore de sah cu mult drag" (which roughly means: "They'll dearly be waiting for these chess classes"). And worst off all, how can you fucking force students to play chess, from the very first grade to the very last?! I haven't even learned how to read or write by then and they expect you to do well in chess? Dear lord...

On the bright side, like Chibichibibear said, it's still just a proposal for the time being, so there's a chance that it will get rejected.

[returnal]

Anonymous1.0 Wrote:LOLOLOL. I play chess quite frequently, won a 1st prize in a state comp. too, but this is just asinine. For fuck's sake, are we going back to the U.S.S.R. here?

Maybe we're already there?

[John Tuttle]

KitsuneSefam Wrote:BEAT ME IN CHESS OR YOU HAVE 0 ON YOUR EXAM

MOVE YOUR QUEEN THERE BECAUSE I SAID SO

PLAY WITH MY STRATEGY OR YOU GET DETENTIONS

Chess or Nazi Germany Chess? That is the question

no, nazi chess would have soldiers as pawns, stukas as knights, panzer tanks as rooks, artillery as bishops, v-1s as kings, and v-2s as queens.

[Michio-kun]

john tuttle Wrote:

KitsuneSefam Wrote:BEAT ME IN CHESS OR YOU HAVE 0 ON YOUR EXAM

MOVE YOUR QUEEN THERE BECAUSE I SAID SO

PLAY WITH MY STRATEGY OR YOU GET DETENTIONS

Chess or Nazi Germany Chess? That is the question

no, nazi chess would have soldiers as pawns, stukas as knights, panzer tanks as rooks, artillery as bishops, v-1s as kings, and v-2s as queens.

lol

[Faby]

Haha, I'm imagining about having to take baccalaureates in chess. I'd ROFL my ass off

[SoulRiser]

Quote:this is Ridiculous i just cant see how a game could be educational.

Wha? I learnt a lot from games.

[Michio-kun]

Well it depends on the game. Chess is a very strategic and rational game. It builds more complex brain connections if you play a lot.

[liq3]

Stratovarius Wrote:Well it depends on the game. Chess is a very strategic and rational game. It builds more complex brain connections if you play a lot.

Compared to Tic Tac Toe. Compared to Go it's fucking simple.

[Michio-kun]

Go is hardcore.

[Bob Dole]

Hmm. I had never heard of Go before. Now after some research, I want to play it. Many thanks.

[anonomous]

SoulRiser Wrote:

Quote:this is Ridiculous i just cant see how a game could be educational.

Wha? I learnt a lot from games.

not me tho :(
but what exactly does one learn form playing a game?

[liq3]

anonomous Wrote:

SoulRiser Wrote:

Quote:this is Ridiculous i just cant see how a game could be educational.

Wha? I learnt a lot from games.

not me tho :(
but what exactly does one learn form playing a game?

I personally bettered my ability to learned.

[SoulRiser]

Quote:but what exactly does one learn form playing a game?

I learned how to take cover if someone's shooting at me, how to aim a gun, I got better reflexes, what weapon to use in what situation... all things that might just save my life one day. Or not. But better safe than sorry

Depends on the game though. I play a lot of games involving guns, but strategy games are good too. Those helped me to multitask better and just generally strategize stuff. There's strategy involved in a lot of things if you think about it.

[Zombie]

Why is everyone complaining? If the public schools are going to be mandatory, and yes, I highly disagree with that, then they definetly need improvement.

My thoughts on Chess:
I hear alot of complaints about high schools mathematics, they mainly have us repeat formulas, which are each a rapid succession of basic math problems, without any reason, no appliance. Calculus, Trigonometry, Geometry, each of these (and many more), with practice, will help us create these equations, which help explain things like change (Calculus.), or space (Trigonometry, Geometry.). The ability to create these IS taught in school to some extent, (You may have payed attention to 'em, had the long slow lessons not killed your interest.) but for a mandatory education, which most kids trust to aid them in their futures, "too some extent" isn't except able. This is our complaint, correct?

Now if they are going to have a chess class, then they will try to cover chess, and part of chess involves equations. More logic could be taught! And yes, I absolutely hate mandatory schooling, but again, improvements in the curriculum should be encouraged, and this has potential.

[\Thoughts]

I haven't slept in nearly 24 hours, so sorry if that was a bit jumpy/completely unreadable.

Also, I just realized something: When we teach someone, they are "taught" like a rope, and when people procrastinate, not allowing themselves to become taught, they are "slackers"... I love language.

[\realization]