A Revolution Update

[psychopath]

Discussions about the revolution have taken place in these threads:

Hidden stuff:

http://www.school-survival.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=11676

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=11709

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=11707

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=11752

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=11717

If you haven't already, please read through the threads (especially the first one) to find out what's happening.

We've established(well most of us agreed) that taking action now is better than sitting around and waiting for a miracle.

This following intro to the revolution was a team effort and is the only one we have so far(I added a few paragraphs to finish it off, criticism is welcome):

Quote:Laws. Rules that define what is and is not allowed. Disobeying the law results in deserved punishment. They enforce your rights, making sure people don't impose on your freedom. Now what if laws imposed on your freedom? What if they were imposing on your parental rights, telling you how to raise your children? You'd be outraged wouldn't you? Utterly disgusted.

Well, they are. They force you to send your childen to school. You have no choice in the matter, except which school to send them to. Private school, public school? Maybe homeschool them, though even then the government still keeps tabs on you. The government doesn't interfere with what they eat, what they wear or when they go to bed. Why should it be allowed to decide if they go to school or not? It's such a major decision.

In it's current state, schools are isolated from the rest of society. Children, the most vulnerable of our kind, are forced to attend these secure institutions where they are fed not valuable learning material, but anything that the government wants. Parents should have a say in what their children learn, and the children themselves, not the government.

The current school system supresses creativity, individuality and produces obedient workers.

If the law is harming society and destroying children, then it must be changed. The only way we can do this is by spreading awareness and exposing the flaws of school.

You can help by telling others about this article and therefore joining the <NameOfRevolutionHere>, which is about spreading awareness and exposing school's major flaws.

There have been many suggestions for a name for the revolution:
-FER (Free Education Revolution)
-AS Revolution (Anti-School Revolution)
-SS Revolution
-Student Revolution
-Insurrection
-ASIO (Anti-School Information Organization)
-Educated Revolution

We also had many suggestions for a logo, and this one was popular(same as school-survival.net, or at least similar):

Hidden stuff:

This is what we've come up with so far, but unless we have a place for the intro page, logo and name to settle, it's all very unofficial and the real winning logo and name will be the most popular one.

The goal here is to spread awareness, and to let others know what's wrong with school, but also to make our anti-school presence more well known.

Things that need more work are probably the intro and a final name.

[schoolhater234]

It's very good although before it goes public, that pharagraph will definitely need some editing because I've found a few grammar mistakes in it and it would look a lot better if all the grammar and spelling was good. Should I edit it for you?

But anyways, It's still awesome. I'd love to be involved in helping set this up... or whatever other help you need.

sCHOOlHatER234

[psychopath]

schoolhater234 Wrote:It's very good although before it goes public, that pharagraph will definitely need some editing because I've found a few grammar mistakes in it and it would look a lot better if all the grammar and spelling was good. Should I edit it for you?

But anyways, It's still awesome. I'd love to be involved in helping set this up... or whatever other help you need.

sCHOOlHatER234

Yes please editing it would be great Or if you think you could make it longer or more persuasive that would be good too

[DeadLugosi]

As I suggested when I talked about creating a facebook group and as soulriser suggested somewhere else, it'd be nice to have some kind of arguments list: more explicit than a text, if the list is numbered, one can refer to the number of the argument if one wants to contest it, easy to add arguments etc.
Of course this isn't incompatible with a text, both should be done actually.

One argument I can think of right now: School is official, hence it teaches official knowledge and consequently prevents progress (I'm going to post a thread about something a college teacher said in class which shocked me and perfectly illustrates this argument).
Another one: remember that quote "It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on not understanding it"? Well, this is not only the reason why teachers are difficult to convinced: this is also one of the reasons why school sucks: if we found more efficient methods for teaching, that would mean we'd need less teachers, and I don't know about other countries but in France teachers are the most powerful protesting force, which is why almost no reformation of the French education system has been successfully attempted for years (decades?). Question: can we let teachers control the education system while they have no interest in improving it (as they are protected by the state anyway)?

[Swift]

I think their should be some kind of flag for the revolt. I've made designs, as a amaetur vexillogist

[Fire Elf]

Well then, let's see the designs.

[Pieman]

As for names, shall we make a poll?

[Fire Elf]

This just happened at me: Do we really nead an official name?

[Rebelnerd]

It would certainly be more convenient than saying "hey dude, you want to join this group of students who are trying to gradually influence the political process through petitioning, demonstrations and possible civil disobediance in order to win minors more rights when it comes to policy making in the education system?"

[Thought Criminal]

I like simply calling it the revolution though it might be nice to stick a name to it.
If we do use a name I vote for the free education revolution

[AWOL]

Vote for FER!!!

[classclown]

i liek students in arms its like saying wre sick of it and wre gonna fight for our rights SIA or just SA

[Thought Criminal]

yeah but that implies violence

[classclown]

i thought of that and people say it we can say we fight by writing and protesting the last thing we need is voilence it would ruin it

[Thought Criminal]

so we dont need the in arms thing

[Fire Elf]

I shall abstain from voting simply from lack of any real choice on the ballot.

[Quioxte]

Good Posts. I will come up with a few flag designs even though I am not a very good graphics designer...

[Thought Criminal]

I could try making some designs if you like. Do you guys have any specific ideas?

[PunchingYou]

PresidentSwift Wrote:I think their should be some kind of flag for the revolt. I've made designs, as a amaetur vexillogist

WE SHALL SAIL UNDER A BLACK FLAG!

Right? We might be mistaken as pirates though

[Swift]

I was thinking of that Blue Rose color.

But Anarchy rulez. (Anarchy uses a black flag, in case you didn't know)

[DeadLugosi]

Well, as for the black flag, I must remind you that we don't want to be associated with any ideology, for we just want to INFORM people (we don't even give precise solutions), this way we'll have a greater audience to our cause.

Also, haven't you noticed that this stuff doesn't advance anymore? We got excited about this a few weeks ago and now, nothing ...
We've got to continue organizing that stuff guys, finding a name, a pamphlet, maybe a logo etc.

Just my opinion about our priorities: I think a name is necessary to keep organized, that is to keep organized nationally and internationally, also this way someone who's been given a flyer can google us. A logo is good but it's unnecessary (I'm not saying it's unuseful) for starting to take action and it can be changed very easily (changing the name will get harder and harder as the group grows, while we see organizations changing their logos regularly), a text (with our arguments and stuff) can be changed very easily too but it's absolutely necessary to take action (what are we going to do else? Distribute flyers with only our name and logo on them?...), of course we don't absolutely need a big and good one at first.
So, we need:
- First: a name
- Next: a little text explaining who we are etc. and, most important, our arguments
- Then: starting to take action (i.e. spreading information in any way possibleà

And (unnecessary but important) a logo.

Of course it's my vision of what we should do that you see here, I might have forgotten stuff or simply be wrong...

[AWOL]

We need to do stuff. I get back to school soon, and I'm going to hand out flyers and stuff. Also, as for the flag, if we make it, don't use any political references, not to anarchy, or the rebel flag. Nothing political. Ok?

[Liquid]

psychopath Wrote:There have been many suggestions for a name for the revolution:
-FER (Free Education Revolution)
-AS Revolution (Anti-School Revolution)
-SS Revolution
-Student Revolution
-Insurrection
-ASIO (Anti-School Information Organization)
-Educated Revolution

WTFH

Who proposed "Insurrection"???
The "Insurrection" was the IAA's version of this...

[Fire Elf]

Liquid Wrote:

psychopath Wrote:There have been many suggestions for a name for the revolution:
-FER (Free Education Revolution)
-AS Revolution (Anti-School Revolution)
-SS Revolution
-Student Revolution
-Insurrection
-ASIO (Anti-School Information Organization)
-Educated Revolution

WTFH

Who proposed "Insurrection"???
The "Insurrection" was the IAA's version of this...

Some guy calling himself "hbomb". It was his only post.

[Michio-kun]

Students Against Public Schooling (SAPS)
Students Against Modern Education (SAME) = This is a facebook group I saw.
Students Organized Against Public Schooling (SOAPS)

[Rebelnerd]

Why would anyone call themselves SAPS?

[Fire Elf]

Why would any-one call themselves FER?

[Michio-kun]

Rebelnerd Wrote:Why would anyone call themselves SAPS?

Who knows, but I like SOAPS.

[Rebelnerd]

Fire Elf Wrote:Why would any-one call themselves FER?

Why not?

[Fire Elf]

Rebelnerd Wrote:

Fire Elf Wrote:Why would any-one call themselves FER?

Why not?

It sounds wrong?