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I wasn't good enough at encouraging people to be kinder, and removing people who refuse to be kind. Encouraging people is hard, and removing people creates conflict, and I hate conflict... so that's why I wasn't better at it.
I was a very, very sensitive teen. The atmosphere of this forum as it is now, if it had existed in 1996, would probably have upset me far more than it would have helped.
I can handle quite a lot of negativity and even abuse now, but that isn't the point. I want to help people. I want to help the people who need it the most, and I want to help people like the 1996 version of me.
I'm still figuring out the best way to do that, but as it is now, these forums are doing more harm than good, and I can't keep running them.
Thank you to the few people who have tried to understand my point of view so far. I really, really appreciate you guys. You are beautiful people.
Everyone else: If after everything I've said so far, you still don't understand my motivations, I think it's unlikely that you will. We're just too different. Maybe someday in the future it might make sense, but until then, there's no point in arguing about it. I don't have the time or the energy for arguing anymore. I will focus my time and energy on people who support me, and those who need help.
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Hmmm....I'm not sure I fully agree with the off-topic thing. Because in my experience threads that start out on-topic then go off-topic quickly die a death. So is it really worth it?
fatherjack Wrote:Hmmm....I'm not sure I fully agree with the off-topic thing. Because in my experience threads that start out on-topic then go off-topic quickly die a death. So is it really worth it?
Then make your own topic if you want to talk about something else?
FJ dose have a valid point. All threads eventually become de-railed. That's just how conversation works.
If the thread is very important the main subject will always pop back up, but if it's a worthless or less popular one it will eventually die
And without this we would have the split conversations as extra threads and all the original threads that will last longer without off-topic conversation.
I think it would work better without that "rule"
Other than that i think the list is just fine
02-03-2009 02:14 PM
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SoulRiser
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That "rule" (not really a rule, more like a suggestion) is really only meant for serious discussions. It's annoying when it suddenly becomes something like "Hey, X, didn't you do that one time?"... and then that just takes over. Sure, we can split it, but why not just prevent it from happening in the first place? There's not much point (usually) splitting something in General Talk... 'cause that's what it's for.
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perfect example l55555l
but i will explain regardless.
my dad dosen't want me on ss so i have made an alternative account until the heat dies off.
if you wish to discuss it further you may pm me.
anyway, back on the topic at hand.
i agree with that soul, split only the important topics like say philosophical discussion. i had
ish-stated that previously but its good to see what you mean by splitting.
I think Buenaventura Durruti is a pretty cool guy. eh kills fascists and doesnt afraid of ruins. The quickest way to kill a revolution is to wait for it.
So, what's our stand on copyrighted stuff? Do we just claim fair use on everything by default? Sounds good to me, 'cause I don't want to give up my avatar, but it's a thing we need to form a stance on.
Avatars are tiny little thumbnails usually. Pretty much nobody cares about tiny thumbnails. As for everything else, unless we actually KNOW it's copyrighted, it stays until someone complains. There's just no other way to know and it isn't worth the time to check everything.
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SoulRiser Wrote:Avatars are tiny little thumbnails usually. Pretty much nobody cares about tiny thumbnails. As for everything else, unless we actually KNOW it's copyrighted, it stays until someone complains. There's just no other way to know and it isn't worth the time to check everything.
All works are copyrighted, unless declared otherwise by the owner. You don't need to sign it, or but a little C on it, it's copyrighted by default. The only difference is whether the owner gives a fuck and is therefore willing to exercise his right.
火 Wrote:Copyright means jack shit on the net. Moment you put it up you forfeit the rights.
Not legally though.
But yeah, I figured it wouldn't be a big deal considering the news section is one big copyrights violation. I'm sure most photographers and journalists have better things to do than try to legally persecute SS.
火 Wrote:If they try we remove it. Then they have no case because we agreed to their terms.
To be a pedant, they do. It's copyright infrigment even if they don't object. However, most companies/people have better things to do: if the material is removed immidietly, they'll drop it, because a law suit would be hassle (with forums, you've got to sue the person who posted it as well as Soul for neglecting to remove it)-the company doesn't really care once it's gone.
But to be completely precise, they have a case. However, no company will go to the trouble.
火 Wrote:No. What I mean is, if they try to get us in legal trouble, we remove the thing they're complaining about. Hence, no sensible case.
They still have a case if they can prove that SS's portrayal of the work hurt their commercial interests when it was up. Even if you remove the infringing material, you can still be held responsible for the time it was up.
Sigh. That's what we type up. A store can't set a policy to sell beer to 12-year-olds, if the drinking age is legally set as higher. Policies of individuals don't override the law, whether we like it or not.
The responsibilty of a forum owner is of course limited-the poster is the offender. However, if the company wanted to be a jerk, they could sue SS for negligence. As I said though, it's irrelevant-trial costs are too high for anyone to want to take advantage of that.