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FBI Confirms Trump Investigation - James Comey - 03-21-2017 07:54 AM

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39324587

Quote:FBI director James Comey has confirmed for the first time that the FBI is investigating alleged Russian interference in the 2016 election.

However, Mr Comey said his agency had seen no evidence to back up President Trump's claim that his phones had been tapped by the Obama administration.

He was giving evidence to the congressional intelligence committee.
The Trump administration said nothing had changed and there was "no evidence of Trump-Russia collusion".

Russia has always denied attempting to influence the US presidential election.

The FBI investigation would examine possible links between individuals in the Trump campaign and the Russian government and whether there was co-ordination between the Trump campaign and Russia, Mr Comey said.

The FBI would also assess whether crimes were committed, he said.
Mr Comey said the investigation was "very complex" and he could not give a timetable for its completion.

"We will follow the facts wherever they lead," he said.

But White House press secretary Sean Spicer suggested the administration was not concerned, saying: "You can continue to look for something, but continuing to look for something that doesn't exist doesn't matter."

National Security Agency (NSA) chief Admiral Mike Rogers also appeared before the committee.

He said the NSA stood by an intelligence community report published in January, which said that Russian President Vladimir Putin had ordered a campaign to harm the campaign of Mr Trump's rival, Hillary Clinton.

'No wiretap on Trump Tower'

Mr Comey said he had no information on unsubstantiated claims tweeted by Mr Trump this month that former President Barack Obama had ordered a wiretap on Trump Tower.

This was despite looking carefully for such evidence, he said. The Department of Justice also had no information, he said.

Analysis - BBC North America reporter Anthony Zurcher

What FBI director James Comey didn't say during intelligence hearings today on possible Russian meddling in the 2016 US election was as important as what he did say.

Former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort, who had ties to pro-Russian Ukrainian politicians? No comment. Long-time Trump adviser Roger Stone, who reportedly had communications with individuals who hacked the Democratic National Committee emails? No comment. Former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn, who was forced to resign after leaked evidence surfaced that he had communicated with a Russian ambassador about US sanctions? No comment.

"I don't want to answer any questions about a US person," Mr Comey said.

All of this is evidence that the investigation isn't just ongoing, it's substantive and far-reaching.

While Democrats will likely be encouraged by this, it was telling that Republicans pursued the White House line - that the topic of greatest concern was the intelligence leaks that put this story in the headlines.
If Mr Trump can consolidate his party's support, it will go a long way towards insulating the president against any fallout from this investigation.

Meanwhile, Adm Rogers strongly denied that the NSA had asked Britain's GCHQ intelligence agency to spy on Mr Trump - a claim that had been repeated by Sean Spicer.

The allegation "clearly frustrates a key ally of ours", he added.
GCHQ had described the claim as "utterly ridiculous".

Mr Trump's recent joke about how Mr Obama had wiretapped both German Chancellor Angela Merkel and him "complicates things" with an ally, Adm Rogers added.

However, Devin Nunes, the Republican chairman of the House of Representatives Intelligence Committee, said it was still possible that other surveillance activities had been used against Mr Trump and his associates.

What are the allegations?

In January, US intelligence agencies said Kremlin-backed hackers had broken into the email accounts of senior Democrats and released embarrassing messages in order to help Mr Trump defeat Hillary Clinton.

"That was a fairly easy judgement for the community," Mr Comey said. "Putin hated Secretary Clinton so much that the flipside of that coin was he had a clear preference for the person running against the person he hated so much."

However, late last summer the Russians concluded that Mr Trump had no chance of winning, based on polls at the time, and so focused on undermining Mrs Clinton, Mr Comey said.

Both intelligence chiefs said that Russia had made its intervention in last year's election campaign unusually obvious, perhaps to further its aim of undermining US democracy.

Mr Comey said Russia had succeeded in this goal, by sowing chaos, division and discord.

Mr Trump has since faced allegations that his campaign team had links to Russian officials.

Former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper has said he saw no evidence of any collusion, up until the time he left his post in January.

Which campaign members have been accused of deception?

Two senior officials in the Trump administration have been caught up in the allegations - former national security adviser Michael Flynn, and Attorney-General Jeff Sessions.

Mr Flynn was fired last month after he misled the White House about his conversations with the Russian ambassador before he was appointed national security adviser.

He allegedly discussed US sanctions with ambassador Sergei Kislyak. It is illegal for private citizens to conduct US diplomacy.

Meanwhile, Mr Sessions was accused by Democrats of lying under oath during his confirmation hearing in January.

He said he had "no communications with the Russians", but it later emerged that he had met Mr Kislyak during the campaign.

Mr Sessions denied any wrongdoing, but removed himself from any FBI inquiry into Russia's alleged interference.



FBI Confirms Trump Investigation - Geicosuave - 03-21-2017 08:25 AM

finally, he could be charged with treason


FBI Confirms Trump Investigation - James Comey - 03-21-2017 08:27 AM

Moral of the story: if you have an evil plot, don't be a dumbass and showboat.


FBI Confirms Trump Investigation - brainiac3397 - 03-21-2017 11:29 AM

Trump's too stupid to have an evil plot. He's literally the physical embodiment of the 80s. Shitty loud-mouth conning scumbag with garish tastes, no manners, and zero talent beyond the ability to self-aggrandize. If it wasn't for his inheritance, he'd either be in jail or just some shitty street vendor.


RE: FBI Confirms Trump Investigation - Geicosuave - 03-21-2017 12:41 PM

(03-21-2017 11:29 AM)brainiac3397 Wrote:  Trump's too stupid to have an evil plot. He's literally the physical embodiment of the 80s. Shitty loud-mouth conning scumbag with garish tastes, no manners, and zero talent beyond the ability to self-aggrandize. If it wasn't for his inheritance, he'd either be in jail or just some shitty street vendor.
Yes, though he did coordinate his settling of the Trump University fraud case with Pence going to Hamilton, so then people tweeted about that and didn't notice the fraud case as much


RE: FBI Confirms Trump Investigation - James Comey - 03-21-2017 12:58 PM

(03-21-2017 11:29 AM)brainiac3397 Wrote:  Trump's too stupid to have an evil plot. He's literally the physical embodiment of the 80s. Shitty loud-mouth conning scumbag with garish tastes, no manners, and zero talent beyond the ability to self-aggrandize. If it wasn't for his inheritance, he'd either be in jail or just some shitty street vendor.

I suspect Trump has had brighter days. Unfortunately, he took advantage of an unfortunate climate and perfect timing. Half the country receives its news from shady organizations with dubious agendas and eat it like a Big Mac, where the word "Islam" or any Spanish word strikes fear in them.

I pity them.


FBI Confirms Trump Investigation - brainiac3397 - 03-21-2017 01:21 PM

I don't even believe that was entirely him. Pretty sure folk like the Mercer family had a role in providing him with a nice script to follow. It's ironic that people who benefitted from all the freedom and liberty that allowed them to become wealthy members of society were huge backers of those who want to destroy these freedoms.


FBI Confirms Trump Investigation - James Comey - 03-21-2017 01:43 PM

The even greater irony is that Россия is very easily going to screw them over simultameously. The Russians want a jackass who will:

-Destroy American institution and integrity, as well as economy
-Give them elections to their merry weed carries in Europe and Latin America

The popcorn needed for this shitshow is infinite.


RE: FBI Confirms Trump Investigation - iLostHumanity - 03-22-2017 03:52 AM

(03-21-2017 11:29 AM)brainiac3397 Wrote:  Trump's too stupid to have an evil plot. He's literally the physical embodiment of the 80s. Shitty loud-mouth conning scumbag with garish tastes, no manners, and zero talent beyond the ability to self-aggrandize. If it wasn't for his inheritance, he'd either be in jail or just some shitty street vendor.
what makes you think that? Any solid evidence. I'm not looking for a fight, I consider myself a liberal. However I don't understand why one supporter hates the other. Is it blatantly out of competition and desire for their canidate to win, or do you have a legitimate reason to hate Mr. POTUS.

(03-21-2017 01:43 PM)Hansgrohe Wrote:  The even greater irony is that Россия is very easily going to screw them over simultameously. The Russians want a jackass who will:

-Destroy American institution and integrity, as well as economy
-Give them elections to their merry weed carries in Europe and Latin America

The popcorn needed for this shitshow is infinite.
Firstly I agree popcorn is necessary for such a shitshow, however America with or without Trump, or Hillary as POTUS would be just as bad. Mr. Trump is going to attempt to improve the economy. His muslim ban isnt hurting the economy. However I believe you calling Mr. Trump a jack ass is childish. Are you hurt because your candidate didn't win or are you mad because Donald Trump has been doing some pretty dumb stuff. I never understand these other party supporters. YOU ALL SHOULD KNOW DAMN FUCKING WELL THAT HE'S GONNA ATTEMPT TO CARRY OUT THE PROMISES THAT GOT HIM TO BECOMING PRESIDENT USE YOUR BRAINS.


RE: FBI Confirms Trump Investigation - James Comey - 03-22-2017 04:25 AM

(03-22-2017 03:52 AM)iLostHumanity Wrote:  
(03-21-2017 11:29 AM)brainiac3397 Wrote:  Trump's too stupid to have an evil plot. He's literally the physical embodiment of the 80s. Shitty loud-mouth conning scumbag with garish tastes, no manners, and zero talent beyond the ability to self-aggrandize. If it wasn't for his inheritance, he'd either be in jail or just some shitty street vendor.
what makes you think that? Any solid evidence. I'm not looking for a fight, I consider myself a liberal. However I don't understand why one supporter hates the other. Is it blatantly out of competition and desire for their canidate to win, or do you have a legitimate reason to hate Mr. POTUS.

(03-21-2017 01:43 PM)Hansgrohe Wrote:  The even greater irony is that Россия is very easily going to screw them over simultameously. The Russians want a jackass who will:

-Destroy American institution and integrity, as well as economy
-Give them elections to their merry weed carries in Europe and Latin America

The popcorn needed for this shitshow is infinite.
Firstly I agree popcorn is necessary for such a shitshow, however America with or without Trump, or Hillary as POTUS would be just as bad. Mr. Trump is going to attempt to improve the economy. His muslim ban isnt hurting the economy. However I believe you calling Mr. Trump a jack ass is childish. Are you hurt because your candidate didn't win or are you mad because Donald Trump has been doing some pretty dumb stuff. I never understand these other party supporters. YOU ALL SHOULD KNOW DAMN FUCKING WELL THAT HE'S GONNA ATTEMPT TO CARRY OUT THE PROMISES THAT GOT HIM TO BECOMING PRESIDENT USE YOUR BRAINS.

First off, I don't support Hillary Clinton. So don't accuse me of being a Clinton supporter.

Second, Trump has:
-Accused Obama and the British intelligence of wiretapping when the FBI and NSA confirmed this was not the case at all.
-Spent much of his time in Mar-a-Lago.
-Offended the Irish on St. Patrick's Day
-Looked like a child in front of Merkel
-Threw a hissy fit when Enrique Pena Nieto told him Mexico wouldn't pay for the wall
-Literally twisted Comey's words on Twitter, with Comey later calling him out in the same hearing.

So, no. I'm not being childish if I called him a jackass. Yeah, presidents do stupid shit. No one is perfect. But I've never remembered a President who carried himself in such a way (Kennedy had the celebrity thing going but even he limited himself). Not Bush, nor Obama. They were very much professional.

And even then, I never directly called him a jackass. I said the Russians wanted a jackass, who could've been Sanders.


RE: FBI Confirms Trump Investigation - brainiac3397 - 03-22-2017 11:00 AM

(03-22-2017 03:52 AM)iLostHumanity Wrote:  
(03-21-2017 11:29 AM)brainiac3397 Wrote:  Trump's too stupid to have an evil plot. He's literally the physical embodiment of the 80s. Shitty loud-mouth conning scumbag with garish tastes, no manners, and zero talent beyond the ability to self-aggrandize. If it wasn't for his inheritance, he'd either be in jail or just some shitty street vendor.
what makes you think that? Any solid evidence. I'm not looking for a fight, I consider myself a liberal. However I don't understand why one supporter hates the other. Is it blatantly out of competition and desire for their canidate to win, or do you have a legitimate reason to hate Mr. POTUS.

(03-21-2017 01:43 PM)Hansgrohe Wrote:  The even greater irony is that Россия is very easily going to screw them over simultameously. The Russians want a jackass who will:

-Destroy American institution and integrity, as well as economy
-Give them elections to their merry weed carries in Europe and Latin America

The popcorn needed for this shitshow is infinite.
Firstly I agree popcorn is necessary for such a shitshow, however America with or without Trump, or Hillary as POTUS would be just as bad. Mr. Trump is going to attempt to improve the economy. His muslim ban isnt hurting the economy. However I believe you calling Mr. Trump a jack ass is childish. Are you hurt because your candidate didn't win or are you mad because Donald Trump has been doing some pretty dumb stuff. I never understand these other party supporters. YOU ALL SHOULD KNOW DAMN FUCKING WELL THAT HE'S GONNA ATTEMPT TO CARRY OUT THE PROMISES THAT GOT HIM TO BECOMING PRESIDENT USE YOUR BRAINS.

He's backed out on all his promises, made this country a disgrace, and lied about almost everything. He's a retarded dumbass piece of shit conman born with a silver spoon up his ass and he's going to destroy this country.

In two months, he's alienated allies, made a fool of Americans, violated the Constitution, and has shown himself to be utterly and unsolvably corrupt. For fucks sake, he's gone on vacation EVERY SINGLE WEEKEND since he started despite promises NOT TO DO SO. He's cutting funding from everything of use to build his dumb as fuck wall.

"Mr.Trump" isn't going to make America great. He's going to loot this country and then him and his fucked up family is going high tail it out of here and leave the ruins to us, including the dipshits who saw this filthy scumbag and said "Wow, what a perfect role model American!".

Hillary had 30 years of experience. There's no comparison with the failure known as Trump and his perverted disgusting geezer cheeto ass.


FBI Confirms Trump Investigation - Dead - 03-22-2017 11:11 AM

1. This is his first and only post on here.
2. Has a pepe avatar.
3. Refers to Trump as "Mr. Trump" and "Mr. POTUS".
4. Says "I'm a liberal" and goes on to defend Trump, r/asablackman style.

Nope, not strange at all.


RE: FBI Confirms Trump Investigation - Alucard483 - 03-23-2017 04:59 AM

Trump is not acting the way in which many people had hoped but the political ocean is a vast and complex one.


RE: FBI Confirms Trump Investigation - James Comey - 03-23-2017 05:39 AM

(03-22-2017 11:11 AM)Dead Wrote:  1. This is his first and only post on here.
2. Has a pepe avatar.
3. Refers to Trump as "Mr. Trump" and "Mr. POTUS".
4. Says "I'm a liberal" and goes on to defend Trump, r/asablackman style.

Nope, not strange at all.

I'm certain he's a troll off r/the_donald (possibly even a former Bernie or Ron Paul supporter) who happened to find this site randomly through Google and decided to spew nonsense.

Inevitably there are conservatives and Trump supporters on here but jeez, obvious troll is obvious.


FBI Confirms Trump Investigation - ComradeDaryl - 05-16-2017 10:47 AM

As crazy as Donald Trump is(along with every American president, every British prime minister, every Chinese president, every French president, etc), I think the Russia hysteria is just as crazy.


FBI Confirms Trump Investigation - brainiac3397 - 05-16-2017 02:22 PM

The Russia hysteria is crazy because the "We don't trust Russia" GOP suddenly went "WE LOVE RUSSIA!" and suddenly the white "nationalists" are running around chanting that they love Russia, and Trump is giving state secrets to the Russians, and the WH has adamantly defended Russia while flip-flopping on everything else, and Trump literally admitted firing Comey for his Russia investigation, and there's a legit investigation ongoing indicating some kind of links to look into, and half the people around Trump have been caught in Russia's pocket, and Russia hackers have been playing around in our country.

Shall I go on because there's "Russian" oozing from every pore of Trump and the White House. Nothing is being blown out of proportions. In fact, there's an utter lack of concern from the right-wing in regards to Trump's corruption and the suspicious links to Russia that threaten our national security solely because the stupid hick fucks that love Trump just want a reason to go around laughing at liberals who are not particularly happy to see the government aimed at the ground for a catastrophic crash.

Their grasp of politics is so unintelligent, the only method they comprehend politics is as a fucking football game where one side "wins" and gets a trophy while the losers "get lost".


FBI Confirms Trump Investigation - James Comey - 05-16-2017 02:56 PM

Lmao, and then it's been purported that Trump blatantly told secrets to the Russians.

He's literally a puppet.


RE: FBI Confirms Trump Investigation - ComradeDaryl - 05-22-2017 07:37 PM

(05-16-2017 02:22 PM)brainiac3397 Wrote:  The Russia hysteria is crazy because the "We don't trust Russia" GOP suddenly went "WE LOVE RUSSIA!" and suddenly the white "nationalists" are running around chanting that they love Russia, and Trump is giving state secrets to the Russians, and the WH has adamantly defended Russia while flip-flopping on everything else, and Trump literally admitted firing Comey for his Russia investigation, and there's a legit investigation ongoing indicating some kind of links to look into, and half the people around Trump have been caught in Russia's pocket, and Russia hackers have been playing around in our country.

Shall I go on because there's "Russian" oozing from every pore of Trump and the White House. Nothing is being blown out of proportions. In fact, there's an utter lack of concern from the right-wing in regards to Trump's corruption and the suspicious links to Russia that threaten our national security solely because the stupid hick fucks that love Trump just want a reason to go around laughing at liberals who are not particularly happy to see the government aimed at the ground for a catastrophic crash.

Their grasp of politics is so unintelligent, the only method they comprehend politics is as a fucking football game where one side "wins" and gets a trophy while the losers "get lost".

The Democrats are just as anti-Russia, and always have been, just like the Republicans, with few exceptions from both parties. Why are you worried so much about Russia, when countries like Bahrain, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, and United Arab Emirates are doing much worse than Russia ever could? Heck even China is doing much worse things than Russia, and countries such as Canada, France, Germany, the United States, and the United Kingdom are all being friendlier with China than Russia!

There were many other choices for the American president in the 2016 American presidential elections, but most people listen only to the 1% controlled/bourgeois controlled/corporate controlled/elite controlled media, especially on television, where the media is entirely controlled, with very few exceptions.

(05-16-2017 02:56 PM)Hansgrohe Wrote:  Lmao, and then it's been purported that Trump blatantly told secrets to the Russians.

He's literally a puppet.

Donald Trump, like Barack Obama, George W. Bush, and every other American president is a puppet of the 1%/bourgeois/corporations/elite. The same goes with every British prime minister, every Chinese chairman/president, every French president/prime minister, every Saudi Arabian king, etc. There were other choices, but unfortunately, most people always rely on television news.


FBI Confirms Trump Investigation - brainiac3397 - 05-23-2017 08:46 AM

Russia has literally interfered in this country and screwed around with our political system. No other country has done as much as damage.


FBI Confirms Trump Investigation - James Comey - 05-23-2017 10:58 AM

Well, except maybe the British invading in 1812, though that was a different time.


RE: FBI Confirms Trump Investigation - ComradeDaryl - 05-25-2017 01:24 PM

(05-23-2017 08:46 AM)brainiac3397 Wrote:  Russia has literally interfered in this country and screwed around with our political system. No other country has done as much as damage.

There's very few, if any evidence, that Russia interfered in the 2016 American presidential elections. Maybe you have to accept that Hillary Clinton was a terrible candidate (Donald Trump was a terrible candidate too), and that most people rely solely on television news for presidential candidates, which typically only gave those two candidates. There were far more candidates like Gary Johnson, Jill Stein, Darrell Castle, Evan McMullin, Zoltan Istvan, Rocky de la Fuente, etc. Infact, I'm pretty sure China, France, Israel, the US, and the UK have interfered in far more elections than Russia has.

Saudi Arabia contributed 15 of the 19 terrorists on the September 11, 2001 attacks. Saudi Arabia is also the birthplace of Osama Bin Laden, and Saudi Arabia is a notorious supporter of terrorists like al-Qaeda, Daesh, and the Taliban. Saudi Arabia also contributed lots of campaigning money to Hillary Clinton, and Saudi Arabia is a notorious violator of human rights. Saudi Arabia throws women in jail for being raped, beheads homosexuals, and punishes anyone that follows any other religion publicly or no religion publicly. Saudi Arabia is a key ally of France, Germany, the US, and the UK, along with NATO generally.


FBI Confirms Trump Investigation - brainiac3397 - 05-26-2017 01:32 PM

Almost every cabinet member has secretly met with Russians without disclosing it, Flynn is about to be tried for being a foreign agent, and US spies caught Russian spies bragging about fucking with the US.

Do we need to see Putin sitting in the Oval Office to realize Russia has probably gotten involved? People have been arrested and found guilty on far less evidence...