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Hanhan Wrote:I am constantly accused of being a lesbian, because me and my friend regularly PRETEND to be lesbians to piss people off. So it doesn't bother me.

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Swift Wrote:
Hanhan Wrote:I am constantly accused of being a lesbian, because me and my friend regularly PRETEND to be lesbians to piss people off. So it doesn't bother me.

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I remember when my friends and I were 12 and in 7th grade. One of them said to us, "you guys, we gotta get girlfriends by next year or we're going to look like total losers."
I wanted to punch him in the face for his stupidity.
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So... Yea. I regularly act fairly simply, but that's just 'cause there's no reason to act "smart". Besides, there's nothing better than the look on a teachers face when they realize that the 'slacking idiot' just aced their quiz when the rest are still working. That's a Kodak moment. I really need a camera...

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Yeah, my school is pretty much the same. They hate on gay people, black people and naturally they all hate English people. (God I hate Scotland some times.) Intelligence is always met with harsh words and insults. Then they turn into two faced asses, begging me for help with a test or whatever. The funniest thing though is, none of them think I'm gay. I'm considered very much straight, so much so that when I told some of my friends they were like "Yeah, right. Very funny Craig!" for a while. It's stupid, they all just automatically assume you have to be stupidly camp and flamboyant to be gay.
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This thread....makes me feel so relieved. I feel like i'm the only intelligent person in my school. 80% (Not exaggerating sadly) of all all the kids are like what's been described here. I'm sixteen and I'm female and I don't fit in with most people because One)I'm not a cell-phone toting, make-up slathering, skimpy clothes wearing whore (thank god) and Two) I intemidate them with my big words.

[Rant] I know i act a little severe sometimes, but i can't help it. For years (I'm a junior in high school to give you an idea of how many years) I've been mocked for generally being intelligent. Jerky guys love to walk up to me and try to make me look stupid. Generally one of those "Have you ever heard of *fill in the blank*" and then when you answer they make a perferted joke. NOT cool or attractive at all. And when i get so fed up i react like an ice-queen. And i don't like giving off a bitchy vibe! But i get so tired of all the shit!

I get so tired of guys (often jocks or gangstas) treating me in demening ways. They run into me in the hall, effectivly knocking my books out of my hands or knocking me into lockers (i'm 5' 8", kind of tall for a girl, but these guys i really big) and instead of "sorry" I get a "watch were you're goin' niggar/bitch."

Just a week ago in class i handed out scissors to the class and we only had a few to hand out (stupid buget cuts.) Well, i tried to ask a guy in the back corner (you know the corner where all the assholes in class congregate?) "Do you sit over there (there as in front of the class)? If so, there are all ready scissors on that desk." (Because he was suppose to sit in the front seat but wasn't). Well this guy totally freaked out for no reason. He starts yelling "No bitch! i don't sit in no fucking front!" And I'm just like WTF?! I was just trying to be polite and make sure everyone had goddamn scissors!

My teacher got on to him, but all it was was a verbal scolding! What? No punishment for the jock? Am i so despendable that you'll let those people talk down to me RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU even though your a teacher who is "supposidly" suppose to be educate us and be a role model? Way to go, I'm "really" inspired. Noo

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I hope this anti school community doesn't end up like atheism. Because, not trying to insult, it seems everyone is automatically "intelligent" if they aren't apart of the majority. Don't worry, I understand how this generation is seeping with nut-less monkeys who can't realise how the word lawlz isn't a word.

I just don't want this community to be up their own ass.
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Sorry if i came off pompous. It wasn't my intent. No I am just very tired of being treated badly and this is the first place I've found to talk about this kind of stuff with out seeming like a total looser.

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Yet we are the movers and shakers Of the world for ever, it seems.--Ode by Arthur O'Shaughnessy
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Quicksilver Wrote:This thread....makes me feel so relieved. I feel like i'm the only intelligent person in my school. 80% (Not exaggerating sadly) of all all the kids are like what's been described here. I'm sixteen and I'm female and I don't fit in with most people because One)I'm not a cell-phone toting, make-up slathering, skimpy clothes wearing whore (thank god) and Two) I intemidate them with my big words.

[Rant] I know i act a little severe sometimes, but i can't help it. For years (I'm a junior in high school to give you an idea of how many years) I've been mocked for generally being intelligent. Jerky guys love to walk up to me and try to make me look stupid. Generally one of those "Have you ever heard of *fill in the blank*" and then when you answer they make a perferted joke. NOT cool or attractive at all. And when i get so fed up i react like an ice-queen. And i don't like giving off a bitchy vibe! But i get so tired of all the shit!

I get so tired of guys (often jocks or gangstas) treating me in demening ways. They run into me in the hall, effectivly knocking my books out of my hands or knocking me into lockers (i'm 5' 8", kind of tall for a girl, but these guys i really big) and instead of "sorry" I get a "watch were you're goin' niggar/bitch."

Just a week ago in class i handed out scissors to the class and we only had a few to hand out (stupid buget cuts.) Well, i tried to ask a guy in the back corner (you know the corner where all the assholes in class congregate?) "Do you sit over there (there as in front of the class)? If so, there are all ready scissors on that desk." (Because he was suppose to sit in the front seat but wasn't). Well this guy totally freaked out for no reason. He starts yelling "No bitch! i don't sit in no fucking front!" And I'm just like WTF?! I was just trying to be polite and make sure everyone had goddamn scissors!

My teacher got on to him, but all it was was a verbal scolding! What? No punishment for the jock? Am i so despendable that you'll let those people talk down to me RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU even though your a teacher who is "supposidly" suppose to be educate us and be a role model? Way to go, I'm "really" inspired. Noo

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For some reason, she wasn't to me, but maybe I wasn't reading carefully enough or something. Bored

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ChickenLeg Wrote:For some reason, she wasn't to me, but maybe I wasn't reading carefully enough or something. Bored

Sorry, I get a little incoherent when I rant. Smile

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Don't worry about it Quicksilver, I understand.
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Wh1skers Wrote:Yeah, my school is pretty much the same. They hate on gay people, black people and naturally they all hate English people. (God I hate Scotland some times.) Intelligence is always met with harsh words and insults. Then they turn into two faced asses, begging me for help with a test or whatever. The funniest thing though is, none of them think I'm gay. I'm considered very much straight, so much so that when I told some of my friends they were like "Yeah, right. Very funny Craig!" for a while. It's stupid, they all just automatically assume you have to be stupidly camp and flamboyant to be gay.


THEY MAY TAKE OUR LIVES! BUT THEY'LL NEVER TAKE..! OUR! FREEDOOOOOM!

Anyway, people at my school call me gay because I'm bi. They also call me satanic and try to 'rip the devil' from me, just because I like metal and rock. Doesn't really help that I constantly sign 'horns' and say 'SAAATAAAAAN' in class.

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Ive been homeschooling for a while now and i have to go back soon.Just remembering what it was like was terrible,and this time its in chattanooga.

I also cant write very well because the fucking schools teach pointless things like intransitive verb,direct object, etc instead of how to write.


Its like whatever is "cool" at the moment i think is stupid.Also about people fighting,i love to fight,but when i practice martial arts and do it in an enviroment where we respect each other.Actual respect,not the meaning most people think as in fear.



Im 14 and i dont think relationships should be based on sex and attractiveness.I know people think thats all i care about because im so full of hormones.Someday i actually want to find love,but it seems its never gonna happen the way society is.Its kind of depressing when i think about it.It does seem people go off of animal instincts but when someone actually wants to form a relationship its not gonna happen.


Sorry for the bad english.I wish school would actually teach me to write.I guess if i read more of your posts i can try to get better :(

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Leon Kinotolian Wrote:-- On that note, I consider any flaming homosexual teen, or any teen who acts feminine and speaks with a lisp that SHOULDN'T BE NATURAL, to be an idiot. They're killing their self-respect. I will willingly befriend someone who is gay so long as they do not try to hit on me, or are a flamer, so don't call me homophobic.
you just killed your argument you ignorant fuck. thats how some people are made, its called being different and i think everyone on this forum should be able to relate to that. " will willingly befriend someone who is gay so long as they do not try to hit on me, or are a flamer, so don't call me homophobic."
oh yeah, that works. i wont befriend them if they are a "flamer" (homophobic term) BUT DONT CALL YOU HOMOPHOBIC? wtf man.I totally just lost a lot of respect for you on that one. be more careful with your words, gay people do exist and they ARE on this site you know? Fu

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Once you think you're supposed to be a certain way, it will happen unless you can't be that way.

Anything that ever happened or will... one condition, it has to be amazing.

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Jaye. Wrote:
Leon Kinotolian Wrote:-- On that note, I consider any flaming homosexual teen, or any teen who acts feminine and speaks with a lisp that SHOULDN'T BE NATURAL, to be an idiot. They're killing their self-respect. I will willingly befriend someone who is gay so long as they do not try to hit on me, or are a flamer, so don't call me homophobic.
you just killed your argument you ignorant fuck. thats how some people are made, its called being different and i think everyone on this forum should be able to relate to that. " will willingly befriend someone who is gay so long as they do not try to hit on me, or are a flamer, so don't call me homophobic."
oh yeah, that works. i wont befriend them if they are a "flamer" (homophobic term) BUT DONT CALL YOU HOMOPHOBIC? wtf man.I totally just lost a lot of respect for you on that one. be more careful with your words, gay people do exist and they ARE on this site you know? Fu
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(03-27-2009 01:10 PM)returnal Wrote:  
Freeman Wrote:God, people in my school are annoying. They shout out random stuff, pick on the intelligent people without thinking of a better insult than "gay" "lame" or "cracker". And most people blabber on about stuff I don't give a shit about. *sigh*
"Gay" is used as an insult so homophobic bastards can keep their insecurities out of the open and only within their own kin.

I remember that in Year 7, on the trip to Wales, people were calling me a Lesbian and making fun of me because I love my science teacher (She's the same gender as me.) They started doing it in school later on. Plus the whole Year 7 got a negative feedback from the trip, but not because of that.
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Most people in my school are like this, I pretty much know all the people who aren't idiots in my school. I mostly regard those idiots with apathy or contempt. And while my typing isn't the best, I actually go back to correct mistakes if I notice them, which is most of the time.

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(03-27-2009 11:50 AM)returnal Wrote:  Although "adults" think of us as immature, really it's their fault for making many youth immature because they force feed us bullshit and go batshit insane when we attempt to be mature. We are forced to be "youthful". Whatever that means.

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Consensual incest is very common. You know people who have been involved, whether you know it or not.

There is no rational reason for keeping laws or taboos against consensual
incest that is consistently applied to other relationships. Personal disgust or religion is only a reason why one person would not want to personally engage in what I call consanguinamory, not why someone else shouldn't do it. An adult should be free to share love, sex, residence, and marriage with ANY consenting adults. Youthful experimentation between close relatives close in age is not uncommon, and there are more people than you'd think out there who are in lifelong healthy, happy relationships with a close relative. It isn't for everyone, but we're not all going to want to have each others' love lives, now are we? If someone thinks YOUR love life is disgusting, should you be thrown in prison?

Some people try to justify their prejudice against consanguineous sex and
marriage by being part-time eugenicists and saying that such relationships inevitably lead to “mutant” or “deformed” babies. This argument can be refuted on several fronts. 1. Some consanguineous relationships involve only people of the same gender. 2. Not all mixed-gender relationships birth biological children. 3. Most births to consanguineous parents do not produce children with significant birth defects or other genetic problems; while births to other parents do sometimes have birth defects. 4. We don’t prevent other people from marrying or deny them their reproductive rights based on increased odds of passing along a genetic problem or inherited disease. It is true that in general, children born to consanguineous parents have an increased chance of these problems than those born to nonconsanguineous parents, but the odds are still minimal. Unless someone is willing to deny reproductive rights and medical privacy to others and force everyone to take genetic tests and bar carriers and the congenitally disabled and women over 35 from having children, then equal protection principles prevent this from being a justification to bar this freedom of association and freedom to marry.

Some say "Your sibling should not be your lover." That is not a reason. It begs the question. Many people have many relationships that have more than one aspect. Some women say their sister is their best friend. Why can’t their sister be a wife, too?

Some say “There is a power differential.” This applies least of all to siblings or cousins who are close in age, but even where the power differential exists, it is not a justification for denying this freedom to sex or to marry. There is a power differential in just about any relationship, sometimes an enormous power differential. To question if consent is truly possible in these cases is insulting and demeaning.

Some say “There are so many people outside of your family." There are plenty of people within one’s own race, too, but that is no reason to ban interracial marriage. So, this isn't a good reason either. Let consenting adults love each other the way they want!"-Keith Pullman

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Why are kids and teens so stupid?

First, school is only good for ensuring basic literacy-reading/writing, math up to the basic algebra level, and a decent grasp of basics in other fields. It is not the be-all-end-all of education as many people assume it is. The stuff we learn (ahem) in school is the first step on the road. And on top of that, there are several huge flaws with how school handles the basics; quite simply, it fucks everything up. In the end, someone who has 12 years of school might know the basics(or not), but any desire to learn beyond them is gone by that point. GONE. I can see this attitude in my class...
Quote:I think the issue of educating the students on important cultural topics such as sexism, politics, emotional intelligence, abuse, and so forth has been delegated to a tiny subject that is seen as a joke by most of the students; there is nothing that is thought provoking, challenging, or enjoyable in our English textbook. For fuck's sake, even my sister's 10th grade English text is better to read; more enjoyable and funny. I think more time should be spent on those above-mentioned topics...but of course, if they suddenly made it into a compulsory subject, the students wouldn't even glance at the subject matter. They would just learn how to say the right words to earn a passing grade. The best way to learn more here is self-directed; kinda like what I've been doing. And yet I see no such drive in my classmates.
Problem is, I have no idea what to do.

And secondly, reading writing, etc. are necessary skills, and I don't think the under-privileged people would be able to learn them outside school. At least in my country, there are thousands of uneducated, illiterate parents sending their kids to school. In these cases, school does help; the problem - as I see it - is limiting everyone to the same system and preventing those who can afford better from using those options. People who can afford better options shouldn't be held back with those who cannot.


School has made the mere idea of seeking out more knowledge to be bitter, painful and undesirable.

Don't play chess with pigeons-they'll just knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut about like they won anyway.
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Quote:May the days and months of flowing bitterness be rewarded...
To forget!?

Unforgivable!!
01-04-2017 04:45 AM
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