Enough is Enough

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To everyone who joined these forums at some point, and got discouraged by the negativity and left after a while (or even got literally scared off): I'm sorry.

I wasn't good enough at encouraging people to be kinder, and removing people who refuse to be kind. Encouraging people is hard, and removing people creates conflict, and I hate conflict... so that's why I wasn't better at it.

I was a very, very sensitive teen. The atmosphere of this forum as it is now, if it had existed in 1996, would probably have upset me far more than it would have helped.

I can handle quite a lot of negativity and even abuse now, but that isn't the point. I want to help people. I want to help the people who need it the most, and I want to help people like the 1996 version of me.

I'm still figuring out the best way to do that, but as it is now, these forums are doing more harm than good, and I can't keep running them.

Thank you to the few people who have tried to understand my point of view so far. I really, really appreciate you guys. You are beautiful people.

Everyone else: If after everything I've said so far, you still don't understand my motivations, I think it's unlikely that you will. We're just too different. Maybe someday in the future it might make sense, but until then, there's no point in arguing about it. I don't have the time or the energy for arguing anymore. I will focus my time and energy on people who support me, and those who need help.

-SoulRiser

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Re: Enough is Enough

okmijn22 Wrote:The argument of ignorance:
Many of the users here claim that they have experienced a better alternative learning to public education and thus claim ignorance that other people could not foresee a better road, life. A example I could think of is China in the 1950s, where the people suffered from absolute destitute from the authoritarian tyranny of the Communist government. Pretend each of us is like a citizen from a well developed Western Country and we pay a visit to China and we see such destitute. It is well known that the Communist propaganda at the time convinced its citizens that they were living a life of great affluence. Obviously that is not true, thus when our Western friends here try to convince our Chinese comrades, that a better life awaits them, obviously there would be resistance as such individualism is unheard of.

The last part of the sentence in bold does not make sense to me, nor does the whole Chinese thing. Can't you draw a clearer conclusion? I read it over and over again, the most I could make out of it is "we are in a better state than China, blah blah blah, and the users of this forum don't know how ignorant they would be without school."

Well, there was a point made by someone, an unschooler who went to a public school and stated his opinion, you should search for it. Pretty much everyone was tremendously ignorant and incapable of thinking compared to him...

okmijn22 Wrote:Last point I want to make in this post, and I hope the OP could respond is the value of life. We are all convinced the Utopian society would be absolutely democratic one that represents its people justly. Saying such, I respect your opinions and whatever road you decide to do with your life, however, as we understand the precity of life (Drake Equation 2000 intelligent civilizations in our universe), with such statistic, wouldn't you want to take a road untaken by so many others. People have walked the path of Compulsory Education since the 1800s yet in such life today, knowing how precious life is, would you not take a journey others have not taken. The people we remember and respect in history, are those not who conform to society but those who change society to what they believe, if everyone had a conformist approach to life, no one would take the precarious journeys for discovery. In fact, we would not even be here, North America itself would be continued to be run by colonies.
That is some points I would like to bring out, I would be happy to discuss these points with anyone.
Happy learning!

O rly? I think not. And school is basically designed to make you have a conformist approach to life..