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One simple and easy change schools can make.
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Re: One simple and easy change schools can make.
Just had a thought, making this change might bring an end to mandatory schooling as well, because what's the point of going to school if you've already passed all the tests and can go to uni/whatever? Especially if the tests could be taken more often.
People will then see how ridiculous mandatory school is.
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Re: One simple and easy change schools can make.
Quote:Just had a thought, making this change might bring an end to mandatory schooling as well, because what's the point of going to school if you've already passed all the tests and can go to uni/whatever? Especially if the tests could be taken more often.
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Re: One simple and easy change schools can make.
The Avenger Wrote:I hate to say it as much as you hate to hear it, ut it's not gonna work. Sure, some teachers/parents will support it, but they will be few and far-between. Most will say "Oh, they NEED all that high school education!!!" or "They're just trying to avoid something that's nescessary" or some dumb crap.
It's worth a try, but yeah. There are too many morons that value going through the tedious, time consuming process than actually enjoying learning. I've heard crap like "They're preparing you for the 'real world' by making you work!" blah blah blah. If it's actually bearable for students, there are those who will think it's just not hard enough.
Fuck those people.
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SoulRiser Wrote:Quote:Just had a thought, making this change might bring an end to mandatory schooling as well, because what's the point of going to school if you've already passed all the tests and can go to uni/whatever? Especially if the tests could be taken more often.
You saw through my evil plan!
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I have a better idea.
We get a bomb and put it in every school building and bus, and when they're all completely empty, push the botton, and then... They will be nothing but craters. Like an asteroid landed!
(And they'd have to be empty so that no one would get hurt)
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" I never knew until that moment how bad it could hurt to lose something you never really had. " ~From the television show The Wonder Years
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... Dates? I don't get it. I don't see any Dates.
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Quote: Post subject: Re: One simple and easy change schools can make.
New postPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 2:26 am
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When it was posted.
Anything that ever happened or will... one condition, it has to be amazing.
I gave her wings but she don't wanna fly no more.
I'm sittin' on the dock of the bay
Watching the tide roll away
Ooo, I'm just sittin' on the dock of the bay
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Re: One simple and easy change schools can make.
Oh, that. I just saw a topic I liked and posted something, I didn't know it was a big deal if a thread was old.
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It is here, kinda, usually you should bump old topics instead of creating new ones.
Anything that ever happened or will... one condition, it has to be amazing.
I gave her wings but she don't wanna fly no more.
I'm sittin' on the dock of the bay
Watching the tide roll away
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Re: One simple and easy change schools can make.
Loxor Wrote:It is here, kinda, usually you should bump old topics instead of creating new ones.
I love your sarcasm. Really.
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Pieman Wrote:Loxor Wrote:It is here, kinda, usually you should bump old topics instead of creating new ones.
I love your sarcasm. Really.
Uh,...
O.o
How many 'there is a thread for this already' do we get around here anyways?
Anything that ever happened or will... one condition, it has to be amazing.
I gave her wings but she don't wanna fly no more.
I'm sittin' on the dock of the bay
Watching the tide roll away
Ooo, I'm just sittin' on the dock of the bay
Wastin' time
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Loxor Wrote:Pieman Wrote:Loxor Wrote:It is here, kinda, usually you should bump old topics instead of creating new ones.
I love your sarcasm. Really.
Uh,...
O.o
How many 'there is a thread for this already' do we get around here anyways?
Many. But you wrote " Bump the old one. "
...why. You'd be contradicting yourself.
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I said kinda.
Anything that ever happened or will... one condition, it has to be amazing.
I gave her wings but she don't wanna fly no more.
I'm sittin' on the dock of the bay
Watching the tide roll away
Ooo, I'm just sittin' on the dock of the bay
Wastin' time
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The point still remains.
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I'm confused.
and in tears,
yes?
Anything that ever happened or will... one condition, it has to be amazing.
I gave her wings but she don't wanna fly no more.
I'm sittin' on the dock of the bay
Watching the tide roll away
Ooo, I'm just sittin' on the dock of the bay
Wastin' time
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I'd say we just leave this thread alone. A dead thread should go back to being dead.
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I had no idea that old threads were a no-no. Sorry. This is my last post on this thread. I personally think that it's stupid to get mad over a old thread being posted in, but this isn't my forum. Keep in mind that that was my very first post here and I'm new.
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Pieman Wrote:I'd say we just leave this thread alone. A dead thread should go back to being dead.
WHat? Even when a thread has the answer to ALL problems related to school?
This thread should be stickied! DO IT
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thats a hell of a good idea and i dont think the value of a diploma would go down because the test would be the same and so if you could pass it then you were considered a high school grad so it would have the same value as a regular high school diploma or a GED. The only reason i could see teachers and parents no going for it is because they all think that teenagers and kids are just basically retarded and cant think up any philosophies or theories that could be worth testing.
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Now, see, here's the thing: this has got to be the most ingenious school-reform idea ever conceived.
But there is one problem with implementation, which is that NO-ONE KNOWS ABOUT THIS IDEA. So people who hear about this really need to tell others, via email, facebook, at school lunch tables, or any other form of communication. Spread the word, people! Please!!
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I just raged like a motherfucker for some reason.
Hey, what's that above me?
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Very good, this is exactly how the Chinese Gao Kao works.
It is not possible as it is a great transition of power. The textbooks with the monopolies would lose money, teachers would be jobless. Throughout my experiences, I have noticed many aspects of life are due to improving our economy at the expense of our personal liberty.
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That's why capitalism never goes along with freedom. We're literally selling our rights.
Problem, officer?
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When I started school, I was horrified to discover that they weren't interested in teaching me anything. I couldn't believe it at first, but I checked with my sister who had been there for two years already and found out that she hadn't learned anything in all that time. Well, it went on like that for about nine years before they actually got more serious about teaching. What a waste of childhood!
I had the idea at the end of my second week at school that there should be a book available which any child who wants to learn should be able to read in order to find out exactly what schools are supposed to be teaching, all set out in sufficient detail that a child could learn everything simply by reading through the book, and having done that, no one would have any right to force them to go to school ever again. I promised myself that if no one ever wrote such a book by the time I was free, I would write it myself and liberate future generations from the prison that is school.
Was it a crazy idea? No: I still think it could work, so I have now written the book, but in the form of an interactive Web site. It isn't anywhere near finished yet, but there's now just about enough of it there to let other people in to have a look at it, and I'd certainly be interested to hear your comments. You can find it here:-
http://www.magicschoolbook.com
I hope this doesn't count as spamming: it's directly relevant to this thread and I will not be posting the URL again anywhere on this forum.
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I smell a troll/spammer. Someone may want to check out his link to see if he's legit.
*Tentaclerape*
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I don't think that counts as spamming. It's quite relevant actually.
Although, you might want to look into the "end of page - the rest is for the search engines" section... Google will not rank your page very well for keyword stuffing.
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Thanks for the tip, SoulRiser. I'll sort that out straight away (I'm fairly new to the Net, so I there's a lot I don't know about how things work - I've been developing everything offline for several years).
My real point in coming here was to search for talent, because I can't write everything myself. I'm looking for fellow school-haters who have high levels of knowledge in subject areas where I lack it, an understanding of how real teaching should be done, and preferably good programming skills (although that isn't essential).
Of course, this whole thing might never be anything more than a hobby if the demand fails to materialise, and it's quite possible that most school-haters simply aren't interested in learning at all, so anyone who wants to work with me on this needs to think of it as a lot of time and effort for no reward other than the satisfaction that they may help a few children escape from school by enabling them to prove to their parents that homeschooling is viable and needn't put huge demands on their time.
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David Cooper Wrote:and it's quite possible that most school-haters simply aren't interested in learning at all
I don't know any legit anti-school member here who doesn't like learning.
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The Desert Fox Wrote:David Cooper Wrote:and it's quite possible that most school-haters simply aren't interested in learning at all
I don't know any legit anti-school member here who doesn't like learning.
I'm sure that's the case, but what I can't gauge is the proportion of school haters who like learning relative to school haters who don't. The idea that they can escape from school by taking control of their own learning and racing years ahead of their age group may only appeal to a tiny minority. There's a group of three million school haters on Facebook, but posting a link there doesn't appear to have attracted any visitors. It may be that they just like having a good moan about school, but in reality they can't be bothered trying to escape from it if it involves working a bit harder for any length of time. Most of them are too old in any case, but I thought there'd be a few.
I found a much smaller school-hating group on Bebo which is more likely to have members nearer to the right age, but again there was no recognisable response from there. I'll let you know if the situation changes, but I'm beggining to think I must be a freak.
Anyway, I'll just keep plodding away adding more content in the hope that it helps a few depressed children to escape from the empty hell that is school. I'm really writing the site for myself in case I get reincarnated so that I won't have to go through school again. I only hope I'll be able to find it when I need it.
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