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Why I think Terminator is a possible scenario
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Why I think Terminator is a possible scenario

A lot of people fear that the technological singularity is near, but it's probably not. The human brain is a very adaptable, learning machine that constantly re-wires itself.

If the collapse of silicon was delayed, it would still take many years for computers to reach a level of intelligence similar to humans, which is predicted to be around 2050.

Michio Kaku says that Moore's Law will collapse in about 20 years, which means that unless we have more progress with quantum computers, the rapid advances in computer technology will stop around 2030.

It's not even known for sure if quantum computers are too promising, so around 2030 computer technology might slow down a lot unless we have some new solutions.

This means that a technological singularity is not likely to appear any time soon, as progress in computer technology is going to either slow down at least for a while around 2030 or not reach a catastrophic point anytime soon.

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What does this have to do with Terminator being likely?

You see, if robots were able to reach insane intelligence some time soon, then in a Terminator scenario there would be no war, the computers would exponentially get smarter until they destroy all humans in a short amount of time.

But, since the progress of artificial intelligence is slower and more time consuming than we originally thought, this, I think, means that we could have a scenario like Terminator, in which the computers have a mild intelligence that doesn't advance so quickly.

If these super intelligent robots are made before the collapse of Moore's Law, or at least before the collapse of silicon, this could mean that we would have very intelligent robots that do not advance in epic proportions. This is what Terminator is. In Terminator, the robots are not insanely smart and do not make progress at such a speed that humans cannot catch up.

I think that if, say Terminator Salvation was real, the humans would have quite some time before SkyNet reached epic proportions, but eventually a technological singularity could take place if the humans didn't destroy the machines in time.

If the robots never harnessed the power of quantum computing, then a technological singularity might never even take place, giving the resistance a better fighting chance.

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Let's just hope the Amish are still around to save all our sorry asses.

I think Buenaventura Durruti is a pretty cool guy. eh kills fascists and doesnt afraid of ruins.
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I actually agree.

We were retarded savages back in the day and nowadays technology is becoming more advanced to the point where it can do on its own.

Its only a matter of time until it judges us just as we judge everything else.

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I think Japan has basically realized that the android apocalypse is inevitable and decided to just get it over with.
http://www.yanobe.com/aw/aw_g_torayan.html

I think Buenaventura Durruti is a pretty cool guy. eh kills fascists and doesnt afraid of ruins.
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Rebelnerd Wrote:I think Japan has basically realized that the android apocalypse is inevitable and decided to just get it over with.
http://www.yanobe.com/aw/aw_g_torayan.html

Lol. What the hell...
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Yes, the Japanese built a two-story titanium robot baby that breathes fire and only obeys the commands of small children. Why? Because Japan attempted to interbreed Eastern and Western culture, but the reproductive process was contaminated with radiation from Hiroshima and caused horrific mutations at birth.

I think Buenaventura Durruti is a pretty cool guy. eh kills fascists and doesnt afraid of ruins.
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Well, humanity will collapse into itself someday, might as well get it over with.

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The Avenger Wrote:Well, humanity will collapse into itself someday, might as well get it over with.

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New Chips.

They may have sufficient hardware for super AI before the collapse of silicon. I'm saying this because you never know what they come up with, and as shown in the above link, they can still find solutions without major breakthroughs(quantum computing).

My point here, and in the whole thread is this. Before I thought that if the computers took over, the human race would be wiped out in 2 seconds. However, it turns out that they have a long way to go, and they may come into existence through our not so amazing current technology.

This means that we might have killer robots, but not god-like ones, which is what The Terminator is(not god-like).

This might even be a good thing. It could give us a chance do realise the dangers before it's too late.

So before I thought that there were two possibilities. Either the technological singularity wipes us out, or we stop it before it happens.


Summary of my whole Message:

Now, to me, there are three other possibilities, which to me, seem more likely. Either the robots start a war and eventually win, or they start a war and we eventually win, or we stop them in their tracks before the war.

This is important because people used to think that either the robots will get incredibly powerful and kill us all, or it wouldn't ever happen. Most just dismissed the possibility of The Terminator becoming a reality.
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