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I gave up misanthropy
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batboy138 Wrote:Ignoring reality is immature and stupid. And if you can't handle the real world, without partial sedation, then you don't belong there.
I guess I should have taken the blue pill.
Guess that means no more music, tv, gaming, internet. computer, sex, drugs, etc too, huh?

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Funny thing is most people(myself included) know jack diddly shit about the true reality.
I mean who would want too..
I ascribe to black lagoons way of the world.
World can be a harsh place and only people who are happy are either living within their blissful ignorance or they haven't been kicked in the teeth hard enough yet.

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HeartofShadows Wrote:Funny thing is most people(myself included) know jack diddly shit about the true reality.
I mean who would want too..
I ascribe to black lagoons way of the world.
World can be a harsh place and only people who are happy are either living within their blissful ignorance or they haven't been kicked in the teeth hard enough yet.

Maybe

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Quote:World can be a harsh place and only people who are happy are either living within their blissful ignorance or they haven't been kicked in the teeth hard enough yet.

Maybe for the majority but not for everyone.

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Derchin Wrote:
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batboy138 Wrote:Ignoring reality is immature and stupid. And if you can't handle the real world, without partial sedation, then you don't belong there.
I guess I should have taken the blue pill.
Guess that means no more music, tv, gaming, internet. computer, sex, drugs, etc too, huh?
Music consists of sound, pitch and tone, so it's unavoidable. Unless you're deaf. It is possible to go without a t.v. The computer is a tool that can be used to make money at work. Sex is necessairy for reproduction. Recreational drugs? Only two types of people use those: people who are dying and crybabies. If your slowly dying of cancer then go ahead and get high. But if you're a crybaby than put down the pot and give it to someone who needs it. The internet is the biggest source of information in the world and a very accessible communication device. As for gaming? I don't know.

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How's the weather on your high horse?

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UnschoolShqiponjë Wrote:How's the weather on your high horse?
Slightly cloudy with a chance of rain. Why? How's the weather down there? lol

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UnschoolShqiponjë Wrote:How's the weather on your high horse?
Slightly cloudy with a chance of rain. Why? How's the weather down there? lol

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HOW DARE YOU???? YOU THINK YOU ARE SO FUCKING GREAT??? FUCK YOU BITCH!

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batboy138 Wrote:Music consists of sound, pitch and tone, so it's unavoidable. Unless you're deaf. It is possible to go without a t.v. The computer is a tool that can be used to make money at work. Sex is necessairy for reproduction. Recreational drugs? Only two types of people use those: people who are dying and crybabies. If your slowly dying of cancer then go ahead and get high. But if you're a crybaby than put down the pot and give it to someone who needs it. The internet is the biggest source of information in the world and a very accessible communication device. As for gaming? I don't know.

Escapism is a perfectly normal reaction to things. It's just as much a coping method as punching pillows or screaming at walls. Only healthier, and people won't think you're criminally insane if you do it.

Everyone seems to berate escapism at some point, but we've all been through it, subconsciously. Aren't habits escapism in and of themselves? Our routines help us escape from the threat of trying something new.

Let go of all desire for the common good, and the good becomes common as grass.

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UnschoolShqiponjë Wrote:
batboy138 Wrote:
UnschoolShqiponjë Wrote:How's the weather on your high horse?
Slightly cloudy with a chance of rain. Why? How's the weather down there? lol

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HOW DARE YOU???? YOU THINK YOU ARE SO FUCKING GREAT??? FUCK YOU BITCH!

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I was joking. SHHEEESH!

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batboy138 Wrote:Music consists of sound, pitch and tone, so it's unavoidable. Unless you're deaf. It is possible to go without a t.v. The computer is a tool that can be used to make money at work. Sex is necessairy for reproduction. Recreational drugs? Only two types of people use those: people who are dying and crybabies. If your slowly dying of cancer then go ahead and get high. But if you're a crybaby than put down the pot and give it to someone who needs it. The internet is the biggest source of information in the world and a very accessible communication device. As for gaming? I don't know.

Escapism is a perfectly normal reaction to things. It's just as much a coping method as punching pillows or screaming at walls. Only healthier, and people won't think you're criminally insane if you do it.

Everyone seems to berate escapism at some point, but we've all been through it, subconsciously. Aren't habits escapism in and of themselves? Our routines help us escape from the threat of trying something new.

That is possible, although they can also be reminders of our reality. Certain statements can be viewed two different ways.

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I disagree with the person who said 'crybabies' use recreational drugs. My use of hallucinogens, on occasion, allow me to work through my problems without the 'escapism' map normally imposed on drug use. It's a recreational usage, but it certainly doesn't make me a crybaby.

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Ahab Wrote:I disagree with the person who said 'crybabies' use recreational drugs. My use of hallucinogens, on occasion, allow me to work through my problems without the 'escapism' map normally imposed on drug use. It's a recreational usage, but it certainly doesn't make me a crybaby.
Yes it does. You can't use drugs AT ALL to work out your problems. I know this from experience. I used to take Ritilin when I was a kid, but stopped before 6th grade. Everything worked out in the end.

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Misanthropy is absolutely petty and useless. Firstly, you can't hate everybody on the earth, if so KILL YOURSELF. Because if you hate everybody then you are going to be miserable because almost everything you do relies on other people.

Secondly, your probably hate the things people do, like rape, greed, murder, selfishness, animal cruelty, etc, but hating all people is not going to do ANYTHING, but fuck your life up.

Closing thoughts really, don't hate people, hate the systems that they invent, the systems that keep you from meeting the good guys, the plantations they enslave you in, the imperialistic intentions you are sucked into.

To be an anarchist, is to suffer greatly. To be a black woman is to suffer secretly. To be the earth, is to suffer silently.

I wish no harm on anyone, but those whose harmful ways will not stop without the same harm.

It's time we kill this cancerous system, before it kills us and everything left of gaia. Rise from our immaturity and take back our autonomy!

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SH☮TGUNHEⒶRT Wrote:Misanthropy is absolutely petty and useless. Firstly, you can't hate everybody on the earth, if so KILL YOURSELF. Because if you hate everybody then you are going to be miserable because almost everything you do relies on other people.

Secondly, your probably hate the things people do, like rape, greed, murder, selfishness, animal cruelty, etc, but hating all people is not going to do ANYTHING, but fuck your life up.

Closing thoughts really, don't hate people, hate the systems that they invent, the systems that keep you from meeting the good guys, the plantations they enslave you in, the imperialistic intentions you are sucked into.

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To be honest misanthropes were some of the nicest and most honest people I ever met.
The way I see it from meeting misanthropes and being one myself for a little while was that misanthropes don't really hate humanity.. They hate the things that make you human and most tend to keep people at a distance in order to preserve a sort of neat vision of a person.

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HeartofShadows Wrote:To be honest misanthropes were some of the nicest and most honest people I ever met.
The way I see it from meeting misanthropes and being one myself for a little while was that misanthropes don't really hate humanity.. They hate the things that make you human and most tend to keep people at a distance in order to preserve a sort of neat vision of a person.

Sounds more like loners to me. But I know the psuedo-misanthrope type you are talking about. They don't truly hate people, just the fucked up shit they do.
I guess I could've been in that category when I was like 14 and thought I knew what it actually meant.
I'd say Obama is more of a misanthrope than most so called misanthropes.

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No problem.

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It's time we kill this cancerous system, before it kills us and everything left of gaia. Rise from our immaturity and take back our autonomy!

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I'm at the point where I just didn't see a need to be one...

I mean, in the city I live in you just can't be a person like that. In my case it's better to just drift off into my imagination and once I finish High School, I get out of this city as fast as possible....

I don't hate everyone, it's just that I don't like to be forced into being around people that try to piss people off on purpose just because they can't do anything back. To be around people that do really unnecessary and dumb shit just to impress others or to make them look better is just something I can't cope with. So I end up listening to my Music about 80% of the time I'm in school.

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batboy138 Wrote:Music consists of sound, pitch and tone, so it's unavoidable. Unless you're deaf. It is possible to go without a t.v. The computer is a tool that can be used to make money at work. Sex is necessairy for reproduction. Recreational drugs? Only two types of people use those: people who are dying and crybabies. If your slowly dying of cancer then go ahead and get high. But if you're a crybaby than put down the pot and give it to someone who needs it. The internet is the biggest source of information in the world and a very accessible communication device. As for gaming? I don't know.

Who gives a fuck if somebody wants to live in their own world. We're all going to end up six feet under. I'm not a crybaby and I don't have cancer, I'm pretty optimistic and I take recreational drugs for enjoyment.

Quote:You can't use drugs AT ALL to work out your problems. I know this from experience.

Yes, yes you can. I know this from experience.

Ignoring reality isn't immature and stupid. Who are you to decide what is and what is not?

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Quote:Ignoring reality isn't immature and stupid.

To an extent it isn't. I think we can agree that there is a point where it becomes stupid.

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Quote:Ignoring reality isn't immature and stupid.

To an extent it isn't. I think we can agree that there is a point where it becomes stupid.

Where would you say that point is?

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Quote:Ignoring reality isn't immature and stupid.

To an extent it isn't. I think we can agree that there is a point where it becomes stupid.

Where would you say that point is?

It is probably different for everyone. Usually when that person is being negatively affected. Becoming isolated, losing money, losing health... etc.

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