Adults

[Willows]

One thing that really amuses me are all the sad old people who get jealous of the younger generation for actually having a chance to do something with their life. Usually when old people get together and start talking about their kids or just kids in general, they might mention that a kid wants to do X and start laughing at them for it. They'll bring up reasons why it's just too hard, or silly, and inevitably they'll mention something like, “I was like that when you were younger.”, “They grow out of it.”, “All kids go through that stage.”

Fuck you. Just because you fucked up your life doesn't mean that's how everyone will turn out. You're just reacting that way because you're secretly jealous, and you have a hurt ego. You see yourself in this kid, you see the chance you had, then you look at where you are now, and you hate yourself for it. Because of this, you delude yourself into thinking “that's just how life is”, and make up every excuse so that you won't ever have to admit to yourself, “well, that was my fault”.

That's why I don't trust advice from self-absorbed, insecure older people because they're just speaking from their hurt ego. The more eager someone is to give advice, the more likely it is they're just giving advice to protect their ego from being hurt again. They give advice to validate their own shitty life and all their regrets. One of the last thing humans will do is admit to themselves that just maybe, they were wrong all along.

[psychopath]

Don't hate adults, it'll just make you look immature. You'll be an adult one day too.

[AWOL]

This belongs in the School Talk & Venting Section...

[The Desert Fox]

Amen.

@AWOL: This belongs in Youth Rights.

[AWOL]

No, this belongs in the School-Talk and Venting section. It is clearly a rant, it isn't helpful in the least to the Youth Rights cause, and it's incredibly immature as well.

[psychopath]

AWOL Wrote:No, this belongs in the School-Talk and Venting section. It is clearly a rant, it isn't helpful in the least to the Youth Rights cause, and it's incredibly immature as well.

Indeed

[username01462781]

It doesn't matter what age an asshole is, they will always be an asshole.

[aerftghyjk]

Immature or not, he made a good point there.

[SoulRiser]

I don't see anything immature about his post.

[xcriteria]

Not all adults are like that. But yeah, many are. "I felt like that when I was your age, but then I learned what life is really like." Meaning, gave up and settled.

Which is up to them, but putting down young people who has ideas and dreams and convictions, especially using a catch phrase or two, isn't right.

[Double]

xcriteria Wrote:Not all adults are like that. But yeah, many are. "I felt like that when I was your age, but then I learned what life is really like." Meaning, gave up and settled.

Which is up to them, but putting down young people who has ideas and dreams and convictions, especially using a catch phrase or two, isn't right.

Whereas the adults might also have been different once, and are in fact pointing to the idea that, no matter how hard you try to do something special with your life, sooner or later, you're going to end up like all other adults. At which point it probably isn't their jealousy that's trying to convince you to stop, but rather their experience in life.

[Reptorian]

Double Wrote:all other adults.

Not all adults have the same experience and some are more convinced of other views such as the youth views than the typical adults view based on their own experience. Some aren't convinced one hundred percent solely on their experience and these are kind of adults that should have more respect.

[Desu]

I think some of you are misunderstanding this post. You are probably jumping all over the word he used, "Adults".

The reason why he decided to concentrate on adults is due to logical necessity. Another way to say adults (in this context) would be: People that used to have dreams, but then they found life too hard so they decided to give up, and now they are telling kids to give up just like them.

He could have used that, but instead opted for a word that summed it up nicely: Adults. But then this is something that seems to be true of "people" in general. It just so happens that many older people are like this, but I have observed what Willows is talking about in middle school kids even.

And ya, it was rant clearly, but his point about "egos" is worth noting. People are born into this world without an ego. As they grow older, people will develop insecure egos and will do whatever they can to protect it. It just so happens that an easy way to do this is simply wait to become older, then abuse and control younger people.

[Paraless]

Willows Wrote:One thing that really amuses me are all the sad old people who get jealous of the younger generation for actually having a chance to do something with their life.

Way to make a short-sighted, condescending generalization.

Quote:Usually when old people get together and start talking about their kids or just kids in general, they might mention that a kid wants to do X and start laughing at them for it. They'll bring up reasons why it's just too hard, or silly, and inevitably they'll mention something like, “I was like that when you were younger.”, “They grow out of it.”, “All kids go through that stage.”

Maybe they were like that when they were younger.

Quote:Fuck you.

Saw that coming.

Quote:Just because you fucked up your life doesn't mean that's how everyone will turn out. You're just reacting that way because you're secretly jealous, and you have a hurt ego. You see yourself in this kid, you see the chance you had, then you look at where you are now, and you hate yourself for it. Because of this, you delude yourself into thinking “that's just how life is”, and make up every excuse so that you won't ever have to admit to yourself, “well, that was my fault”.

Who the hell are you to say that these adults have "f*ed up" their lives? You aren't Dr. Phil, don't diagnose people as secretly jealous or say that they have hurt egos. Why do you have such hatred brewing inside you?

Quote:That's why I don't trust advice from self-absorbed, insecure older people because they're just speaking from their hurt ego. The more eager someone is to give advice, the more likely it is they're just giving advice to protect their ego from being hurt again. They give advice to validate their own shitty life and all their regrets. One of the last thing humans will do is admit to themselves that just maybe, they were wrong all along.

Haven't you turned into quite the philosopher in the past ten minutes?

[aerftghyjk]

Of coruse not all adults are like this, but

Paraless Wrote:You aren't Dr. Phil, don't diagnose people as secretly jealous or say that they have hurt egos.

Just because someone isn't labeled as a Psychologist or something doesn't mean they can't do what they do.

[Jackass McAwesome]

I know people at better than psychology than stupid fucks who have PHDs in fucking psychology. Bitch, please, don't give us the old "DURRHURR UR NOT <insert person of some historical/social relevance here>."

Fuck Dr. Phil. He's a stupid arrogant fatass with a TV show.

[Desu]

Paraless, you accused the OP of making generalizations, and fail to provide any kind of counter-argument to anything they said. Instead you decided to just be provocative in return. Also, read my previous post.

I just read some of your previous posts. Jeez, what an arrogant cock, no wonder you responded the way you did to this post. I suspect you will turn this thread into an unnecessarily heated argument like the last one.

[Desu]

Oni-Chiisu Wrote:Fuck Dr. Phil. He's a stupid arrogant fatass with a TV show.

Actually he's a walrus, and walruses are cool, so fuck off.

[Paraless]

Gaiyara-chan Wrote:Paraless, you accused the OP of making generalizations, and fail to provide any kind of counter-argument to anything they said. Instead you decided to just be provocative in return. Also, read my previous post.

How can someone make a counter-argument when the other side doesn't have an argument to begin with? It's ridiculous.

Quote:I just read some of your previous posts. Jeez, what an arrogant cock, no wonder you responded the way you did to this post. I suspect you will turn this thread into an unnecessarily heated argument like the last one.

I get it now. I'm an "arrogant c*ck" because you disagree with me. Forget I said anything; all adults are evil.

Look, the Dr. Phil thing was a joke. That doesn't make the OP any less inflammatory and stupid.

[Jackass McAwesome]

Gaiyara-chan Wrote:

Oni-Chiisu Wrote:Fuck Dr. Phil. He's a stupid arrogant fatass with a TV show.

Actually he's a walrus, and walruses are cool, so fuck off.

He's still fat, asshole!


...Regardless, throwing the whole "You're not such-n'-such," argument out there is stale and easy to debunk. Try something else, yeah?

[Desu]

Paraless Wrote:

Gaiyara-chan Wrote:Paraless, you accused the OP of making generalizations, and fail to provide any kind of counter-argument to anything they said. Instead you decided to just be provocative in return. Also, read my previous post.

How can someone make a counter-argument when the other side doesn't have an argument to begin with? It's ridiculous.

Quote:I just read some of your previous posts. Jeez, what an arrogant cock, no wonder you responded the way you did to this post. I suspect you will turn this thread into an unnecessarily heated argument like the last one.

I get it now. I'm an "arrogant c*ck" because you disagree with me. Forget I said anything; all adults are evil.

Look, the Dr. Phil thing was a joke. That doesn't make the OP any less inflammatory and stupid.

You can start by limiting your "jokes" when someone is being serious, and you can change your language. The problem isn't your opinion, it's simply the fact that people here interpret you as coming off as an asshole. When in Rome, do as Romans do. "Sticking to your guns" is sometimes a bad tactic, and you will be wasting your time because you'll just end up making people angry.

Instead of proving the OP right by acting like a dick, you could try contributing to the discussion by asking them for clarification on specific things.

[Desu]

More: I'll stress again that the OP was clearly a rant. There will be different reactions if it was worded differently.

Anyway,

Paraless Wrote:Who the hell are you to say that these adults have "f*ed up" their lives? You aren't Dr. Phil, don't diagnose people as secretly jealous or say that they have hurt egos. Why do you have such hatred brewing inside you?

You don't have to be a psychologist to observe something so obvious in a person. I might say the same thing as Willows, but word it differently. Again, you would have had a different reaction.

I'm not sure how to "prove" such a thing, but I would say that people's egos become more and more insecure as they grow older. Also naturally people experience more and more failures and setbacks as they age. What separates people is how they react to this. It's a Buddhist concept that everyone has an ego to some degree, and that the way to Enlightenment is dissolution of the ego. If it is not dissolved, we will always be reacting and making decisions in life with the ego in mind, to some degree.

For some people it's really bad. Some people are always protecting their ego, and they will ruin the lives of others to protect it.

Looking at some of your posts (and others that have responded to you), it's ridiculous to keep bringing up "you can't make generalizations". Obviously... This isn't mathematics. This is life, social and political issues... But to have a meaningful discussion, you have to decide what you can allow as a generalization, and what you can't. Otherwise we can just spend all day picking at the fact that someone has made a tiny generalization somewhere and therefore their argument is bullshit.

[username01462781]

I love how that the majority of posts in a forum where people hate school are way more intelligent then commercialized social forums like Facebook where people say "SKOOL IS DA BEEST LOL".

The irony is off the fucking chain.