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Incest: What's your take on it?
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Incest: What's your take on it?
I'm cool with it, I don't see how it's any different than any other kind of love/sex.
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EDIT: No, I'm not thinking of fucking my sister.
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Re: Incest: What's your take on it?
Maybe if incest didn't make the chances greater than a product of incest would have defects/retardation, I'd be cool with it.
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Re: Incest: What's your take on it?
Inbreeding increases the chance of offspring having birth defects. If you're going to fuck your sister, AWOL, please use protection. :(
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Re: Incest: What's your take on it?
I'm fine with incest as long as they don't reproduce
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Re: Incest: What's your take on it?
Incestual relationships increase the chance of a birth defect by only 1-3%, and it's very low anyway.
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Re: Incest: What's your take on it?
AWOL Wrote:Incestual relationships increase the chance of a birth defect by only 1-3%, and it's very low anyway.
Can you give a source on that? The Wikipedia article says it's closer to 25% for immediate relatives.
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Re: Incest: What's your take on it?
I'm talking outside of house family incest on that post (house family = siblings and parents). It may well be 25% for immediate, I'll look it up. Also, could you source outside of wikipedia?
EDIT: Here's one of the sites: http://www.cousincouples.com/
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Re: Incest: What's your take on it?
Inbreeding in Humans
Quote:Shortly after the United States dropped two atomic bombs on Japan in World War II there was an increase in the number of consanguineous marriages in the areas surrounding Hiroshima and Nagasaki. The most common union was seen to be inbreeding at the first-cousin level. The study was set up to study some of the possible effects of inbreeding. The five effects of inbreeding looked at in this study was: the fertility of the marriages, the mortality of the offspring, the morbidity of the offspring, the reproductive performance of the offspring, and the characteristics of the offspring.
In the study it was seen that inbreeding did not have an adverse effect on the fertility of the marriages, but there were some significant increases seen on childhood mortality in the first year of life. Inbreeding also increased morbidity in the study. There were significant increases in levels of handicapped offspring associated with inbreeding. Inbreeding was associated with a 37.5% increase in offspring with one or two major handicaps, while it also caused a 24.1% increase in offspring with one or two minor defects. Moreover, inbreeding caused an increase of 31.7% in hearing impairments. Development also seemed to be affected by inbreeding. Children of consanguineous marriages were significantly older than the control group when they first walked and talked.
The study did not only show harmful effects of inbreeding in Japan. School performance, which is a vital part for betterment in their culture, showed no significant change with inbreeding. In fact, intelligence seemed to be more influenced by socioeconomic class. Furthermore, inbreeding also seemed to be beneficial when examining some aspects of health. Offspring from the inbreeding group showed a 14.3% decrease in allergies and a 23.9% decrease in nephritis, a rare genetic disorder that causes inflammation of the kidneys (Schull 1965).
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Quote:The negative health effects caused by inbreeding are due to the expression of rare, recessive deleterious genes that are inherited from common ancestors or a single shared ancestor. Studies on population in which inbreeding is common have shown increased levels of mortality and morbidity due to a variety of genetic defects. However, inbreeding can also result in the production of perfectly healthy offspring (Bittles 1991).
Which is why people (in general, not just incest) should always take a gene test before making a baby.
Quote: There are several reasons that a population would practice inbreeding that span from religion to geography to royal bloodlines. Many studies have shown that inbreeding can cause increases in mortality and morbidity. As populations become more knowledgeable to these possible effects levels of inbreeding tend to decrease. However, there are other populations that are less knowledgeable to the possible negative outcomes of inbreeding, and it is possible that the effects of inbreeding may not be detectable or visible. Therefore, if there are harmful recessive alleles present in the population, the genes and characteristics still have the possibility of surfacing and negatively affecting a population, but it is very possible that the population will never see any harmful effects due to incest. In fact, some experts believe that in some cases inbreeding can be helpful to a population by constantly exposing harmful recessive genes to selection. By frequently exposing these genes to selection, the harmful alleles can become permanently eliminated from the population. Inbreeding is a very touchy and controversial subject when it concerns humans, and there is still a lot that we do not know about the possible effects of inbreeding. It is very difficult to run experiments to determine all the possible effects of inbreeding in humans, because there are just too many variables to control. Moreover, ethics makes it difficult and many times impossible to perform studies on humans. However, most experts would agree that practicing outbreeding will provide a population with the best opportunity to achieve a high level of health.
Quote:It is very difficult to run experiments to determine all the possible effects of inbreeding in humans, because there are just too many variables to control
Same article as you. After reading the conclusion, I must say that my opinion has changed. Incest is cool, but before making babies everyone should take a gene test.
Also, I was going to approach this subject from a more philisophical point of view, but hey, what the hell.
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Re: Incest: What's your take on it?
Incest is ok when not with Parents, Siblings or Grandparents.
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Re: Incest: What's your take on it?
random_name Wrote:Incest is ok when not with Parents, Siblings or Grandparents.
Who am I? Who are YOU?
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Re: Incest: What's your take on it?
People should be allowed to do what they want, as long as they aren't hurting anyone.
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Mono Wrote:Inbreeding increases the chance of offspring having birth defects. If you're going to fuck your sister, AWOL, please use protection. :(
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Re: Incest: What's your take on it?
its fine aslong as you dont reproduce.
|55555| Wrote:random_name Wrote:Incest is ok when not with Parents, Siblings or Grandparents.
do you wanna fuck your sis or something
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Re: Incest: What's your take on it?
why the hell would you WANT to participate in incest? Im fine with it and all but, shit dude I cant imagine WHY you would want to do that.
and I don't know about disablements in inbred kids, but they would be ULGY. the entire royal family of England is inbred (since you can only marry princes and princesses... how many do you think there are? ) and they are ugly as fuck.
but maybe it is just that I have the worst family of all time and the idea of me dating ANYONE in it, even second cousins makes me sick to my stomach. not only that but i am by far the sexiest person in my family... Im too good for them.
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I'm fine with it. hell if that kind of shit gets them off it's nothing on my back. but I sure as hell am not going do it.
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Re: Incest: What's your take on it?
No, just no.
It's hard to put in words, but it sickens me.
I just can't find anything remotely good about it.
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Re: Incest: What's your take on it?
I've always viewed incest as being revolting & decidedly wrong.
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As long as it doesn't harm anyone and they don't reproduce, what's so wrong about it?
Banning others from doing what they want in their own homes as long as they don't harm anyone(and all parties involved consent) is just as bad as banning homosexuality or being racist.
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psychopath Wrote:As long as it doesn't harm anyone and they don't reproduce, what's so wrong about it?
Banning others from doing what they want in their own homes as long as they don't harm anyone(and all parties involved consent) is just as bad as banning homosexuality or being racist.
It is difficult to place a finger on the exact reason/s why the thought of incest doesn't bode all too well with me....I suspect my personal ethics are involved in my feelings towards it, but obviously I cannot speak for anybody else on the matter. I suppose that I picked up the dissatisfying notion of it when I was much younger - something I heard on the telle, perhaps, or from a discussion my parents were having together, etcetera - but my certainty on that fact isn't whole. :\ All I really do know is that my emotions lead me to feel ardently against incest - even if it is between two consenting individuals within the privacy of their own home. I just cannot think of a relationship like that being healthy in any way.
On the note of them not reproducing....accidents will happen. Think of all the women who've had sex & either they or their lovers didn't use protection, and now they're stuck with being pregnant? There will always be cases such as those; no matter the relationship.
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I've been raging through the net trying to find somes sources on this, and apparently we're all 50th- cousins. Now sex is wrong, so hey, while you're masturbating to your 46th or so cousin, I'll be screwing my 3rd.
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Well, if they want to, let them, their decision anyway
But still weird...
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AWOL Wrote:I've been raging through the net trying to find somes sources on this, and apparently we're all 50th- cousins. Now sex is wrong, so hey, while you're masturbating to your 46th or so cousin, I'll be screwing my 3rd.
So that's why you support incest?
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Twas a joke, I don't even know any of my third cousins.
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I don't agree with the idea of sex between siblings or parents (or grandparents), but cousins I can just about deal with. just... don't ask me to have sex with my family members.
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When I think of incest all I can picture are those swamp folk from the point lookout dlc
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Quote:Banning others from doing what they want in their own homes as long as they don't harm anyone(and all parties involved consent) is just as bad as banning homosexuality or being racist.
So does that make child molestation ok? as long as the kid thinks its "ok"? (they would not understand, some people convince them its perfectly fine) as long as its in their homes and does not effect anyone else?
Im can kinda level with the whole second third or forth cousin but if its immediate family that is not ok.
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IllusoryDeath Wrote:psychopath Wrote:As long as it doesn't harm anyone and they don't reproduce, what's so wrong about it?
Banning others from doing what they want in their own homes as long as they don't harm anyone(and all parties involved consent) is just as bad as banning homosexuality or being racist.
It is difficult to place a finger on the exact reason/s why the thought of incest doesn't bode all too well with me....I suspect my personal ethics are involved in my feelings towards it, but obviously I cannot speak for anybody else on the matter. I suppose that I picked up the dissatisfying notion of it when I was much younger - something I heard on the telle, perhaps, or from a discussion my parents were having together, etcetera - but my certainty on that fact isn't whole. :\ All I really do know is that my emotions lead me to feel ardently against incest - even if it is between two consenting individuals within the privacy of their own home. I just cannot think of a relationship like that being healthy in any way.
On the note of them not reproducing....accidents will happen. Think of all the women who've had sex & either they or their lovers didn't use protection, and now they're stuck with being pregnant? There will always be cases such as those; no matter the relationship.
This and what Jes said.
Psycho, incest isn't a trait like sexuality or race is. It's different.
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Jesusaurisrex Wrote:Quote:Banning others from doing what they want in their own homes as long as they don't harm anyone(and all parties involved consent) is just as bad as banning homosexuality or being racist.
So does that make child molestation ok? as long as the kid thinks its "ok"? (they would not understand, some people convince them its perfectly fine) as long as its in their homes and does not effect anyone else?
Good point.
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wtf!? you guys are wired!
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