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Internet Citizens Against Retarded English (ICARE)

If you are anything like me, you cannot stand people who just don't seem to care about things in general. Since, on the Internet, text is (normally) all you've got to express yourself, it makes a lot of sense to care about the way you type. Unfortunately, at the time of writing, extremely few people do.

ICARE is a "secret club" for those of us who still "care" in general. There is no membership fee and there is no need to sign up for anything. After reading this page, you simply decide mentally whether or not you want to "be in". That's it! (Most likely, you will not have to do much, if anything, differently if you agree.)

If you care, you agree to the following:

* Always use as correct grammar, spelling and punctuation as your current knowledge allows you to, even in real-time chat sessions, no matter who you are talking to, regardless of any "peer pressure".
* Constantly strive to learn more and never settle for "good enough".
* If there is a spell-checker available, use it. If not, at least try to enable/install one.
* Unless it will get you in trouble, try to correct people who are abusing English as often as possible.

If enough people start caring, the Internet may become usable again.

So why should you care? The real question, at least in a sane world, would be more like this: "Why should you not care?" Have you ever felt the satisfaction of doing something right? Knowing that you are pushing yourself to the limit of your capabilities? It's quite addictive, and once you start typing properly, you will soon see it as something completely natural and become unable to go back to writing sloppily without actively trying!

Feel more than free to spread the address to this page. It will be updated with a link to a basic English language guide later (when it has been written). In the mean time, check out "English 101".

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Sounds stupid. No. but as how you're stupid and this 'club' is stupid, u 2 seem 2 go together

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Lukas Foss Wrote:That is why the analogy of stealing does not work. With a thief, we want to know how much money he stole, and from whom. With the artist it is not how much he took and from whom, but what he did with it.
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I think it's a good idea.
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Eidolon Wrote:I think it's a good idea.
you best be trollin, nigga

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Dear Tumblrites: Despite your wrongly self-diagnosed PTSD, no line of scientific evidence suggests people can be triggered over the internet. Triggering works through the senses (i.e. smell, taste, touch, vision, hearing.) but it goes through real time; if you're not experiencing it in real life as it's ACTUALLY HAPPENING in your ACTUAL life, you CANNOT be triggered. The only exception to this is if you have a seizure, but then again, that's triggered by epilepsy (i.e. rapidly-changing flashing lights) NOT PTSD. Remembering a bad incident is NOT the same thing as having a flashback. When you remember, you think; when you flashback, you feel.

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Max Stirnir Wrote:"In the time of spirits thoughts grew till they overtopped my head, whose offspring they yet were; they hovered about me and convulsed me like fever-phantasies -- an awful power. The thoughts had become corporeal on their own account, were ghosts, e. g. God, Emperor, Pope, Fatherland, etc. If I destroy their corporeity, then I take them back into mine, and say: "I alone am corporeal." And now I take the world as what it is to me, as mine, as my property; I refer all to myself." The Ego and Its Own, pg. 15
Charles Manson Wrote:“Look down at me and you see a fool;
look up at me and you see a god;
look straight at me and you see yourself”
HeartofShadows Wrote:"Life is nothing more than a druggie trying to get their quick fix of happiness while dealing with the harsh withdrawal of reality"
Osip Mandelstam Wrote:"I divide all of world literature into authorized and unauthorized works. The former are all trash; the latter--stolen air. I want to spit in the face of every writer who first obtains permission and then writes." The Fourth Prose, 1930.
Lukas Foss Wrote:That is why the analogy of stealing does not work. With a thief, we want to know how much money he stole, and from whom. With the artist it is not how much he took and from whom, but what he did with it.
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I like the idea as well.
Quote:once you start typing properly, you will soon see it as something completely natural and become unable to go back to writing sloppily without actively trying!
I can attest to the truth of this statement.

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Zherneboh Wrote:I like the idea as well.
Quote:once you start typing properly, you will soon see it as something completely natural and become unable to go back to writing sloppily without actively trying!
I can attest to the truth of this statement.
No.

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Dear Tumblrites: Despite your wrongly self-diagnosed PTSD, no line of scientific evidence suggests people can be triggered over the internet. Triggering works through the senses (i.e. smell, taste, touch, vision, hearing.) but it goes through real time; if you're not experiencing it in real life as it's ACTUALLY HAPPENING in your ACTUAL life, you CANNOT be triggered. The only exception to this is if you have a seizure, but then again, that's triggered by epilepsy (i.e. rapidly-changing flashing lights) NOT PTSD. Remembering a bad incident is NOT the same thing as having a flashback. When you remember, you think; when you flashback, you feel.

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Max Stirnir Wrote:"In the time of spirits thoughts grew till they overtopped my head, whose offspring they yet were; they hovered about me and convulsed me like fever-phantasies -- an awful power. The thoughts had become corporeal on their own account, were ghosts, e. g. God, Emperor, Pope, Fatherland, etc. If I destroy their corporeity, then I take them back into mine, and say: "I alone am corporeal." And now I take the world as what it is to me, as mine, as my property; I refer all to myself." The Ego and Its Own, pg. 15
Charles Manson Wrote:“Look down at me and you see a fool;
look up at me and you see a god;
look straight at me and you see yourself”
HeartofShadows Wrote:"Life is nothing more than a druggie trying to get their quick fix of happiness while dealing with the harsh withdrawal of reality"
Osip Mandelstam Wrote:"I divide all of world literature into authorized and unauthorized works. The former are all trash; the latter--stolen air. I want to spit in the face of every writer who first obtains permission and then writes." The Fourth Prose, 1930.
Lukas Foss Wrote:That is why the analogy of stealing does not work. With a thief, we want to know how much money he stole, and from whom. With the artist it is not how much he took and from whom, but what he did with it.
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Are you a fucking moron (You are.)?
All that this is about is using proper spelling and grammar to the best of your abilities, and correcting people who type like they're randomly hitting the keyboard while wearing boxing gloves.

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I friggin' approve of this.
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TrueAnarchist Wrote:Sounds stupid. No. but as how you're stupid and this 'club' is stupid, u 2 seem 2 go together

Sounds stupid. No. But because you are stupid, and this 'club' is stupid, you two seem to go together well.

Fix'd.

I would, but my grammar in general is not too good, and i make too many typos. But i think i've improved since i joined.

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Hooray this.

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Sarah-chan has improved dramatically.
I approve this group. My days of typing like a monkey on crack ended three years ago. At least.

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Yes.
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Other than including real-time chat, I agree with this. However, since its inception, IRC and earlier chat protocols have not used proper grammar and spelling, as such things take time that is not good to use in full-speed sessions. I'd also make an exception for text messages, as full words are harder to type and read.

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Yes. Freaking YES.
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Yea, I too support this.

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AWOL approves of this.

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I'm in. Maybe I'll school the kids at my school and my brother some proper grammar/spelling... But texts are excluded, right?

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The beautiful thing about language is that it morphs constantly. Otherwise, we'd be speaking Proto-Indo-European still. Now, that isn't to say that attempting to enforce a minimum of intelligibility of language is a bad idea. Without everyone using a similar method of communication, it devolves into chaos very quickly. So a common language that we can all understand is essential. And, as we can all understand simple English (hopefully), I do believe that is what we should be using. However, I also believe in the principle of being liberal in what you accept from others and conservative in what you send. That isn't to say that you should spend unwarranted amounts of time decrypting something that somebody posted, but that you shouldn't protest when somebody uses the English language in a way that you're not used to. Now, I understand that many of us are caught in a constant unending ritual of information gathering and that being hit with a massive block of text speak or a dialect that you're unfamiliar with (see: ebonics) is like being kneecapped by a sledgehammer in the middle of a delicate ballet. Simply skip over those. Ignore them, do not flame, do not draw attention to them. If you see somebody who has made a few small spelling, grammar, or punctuation mistakes, do not go all spelling/grammar/puncuation Nazi and start exclaiming, "MY GOOD SIR, YOU ARE ABUSING THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE AND YOU MUST STOP POST HASTE." Don't do that, seriously. Getting confronted about small matters like that just pisses people off. People assimilate into the community they join naturally and as such adopt many of the mannerisms of that group. If you give people time, they can and will adopt the expected writing style of the community. Calling people out constantly only slows down that process. Kindly asking them once or twice to clarify their posting a bit works wonders.

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Quote:do not draw attention to them. If you see somebody who has made a few small spelling, grammar, or punctuation mistakes, do not go all spelling/grammar/puncuation Nazi and start exclaiming, "MY GOOD SIR, YOU ARE ABUSING THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE AND YOU MUST STOP POST HASTE." Don't do that, seriously. Getting confronted about small matters like that just pisses people off.

Agreed on this point, as well. It's fine if you yourself types in proper English, but confronting people on it (especially over the WWW) only encourages them because they get red in the face & more than likely will keep typing as they usually do. Just look at the trolls who have been on this forum. Even politely telling them - like some did in the beginning of the troll crusades - just issued more improper grammer & vulgarities to be furiously written-up on their keyboard.
In real life it can be different, but if you are going to correct somebody's grammar for making a minor mistake, for god's sake don't do it to them in front of other people. Of course, I myself believe that this excludes people who actually speak as if they are texting or for the 'I'm-so-random-it's-cute' factor, with plenty of 'like's, 'totally's, 'ZOMG's & etcetera. But then you don't have to correct them so much as beat them over the head with a large sti-uhm, aheh heh, what I mean to say is.... :<_<: :>_>:
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CrayolaColours Wrote:
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Quote:do not draw attention to them. If you see somebody who has made a few small spelling, grammar, or punctuation mistakes, do not go all spelling/grammar/puncuation Nazi and start exclaiming, "MY GOOD SIR, YOU ARE ABUSING THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE AND YOU MUST STOP POST HASTE." Don't do that, seriously. Getting confronted about small matters like that just pisses people off.

Agreed on this point, as well. It's fine if you yourself types in proper English, but confronting people on it (especially over the WWW) only encourages them because they get red in the face & more than likely will keep typing as they usually do. Just look at the trolls who have been on this forum. Even politely telling them - like some did in the beginning of the troll crusades - just issued more improper grammer & vulgarities to be furiously written-up on their keyboard.
In real life it can be different, but if you are going to correct somebody's grammar for making a minor mistake, for god's sake don't do it to them in front of other people. Of course, I myself believe that this excludes people who actually speak as if they are texting or for the 'I'm-so-random-it's-cute' factor, with plenty of 'like's, 'totally's, 'ZOMG's & etcetera. But then you don't have to correct them so much as beat them over the head with a large sti-uhm, aheh heh, what I mean to say is.... :<_<: :>_>:
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I just realized you got this shit of AnonTalk...

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AWOL Wrote:I just realized you got this shit of AnonTalk...

Kill it with fire.

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Jeez, it's not that serious.

I don't approve.
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FUCK YES.
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Swift Wrote:
AWOL Wrote:I just realized you got this shit of AnonTalk...

Kill it with fire.

AnonTalk is not very different from this site as the users their are wanting youth rights. the problem is that the sick pedophilia raep stries kinda ruin the site and the constant spamming the site owner does to rival sites is just disturbing.

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Zherneboh Wrote:Are you a fucking moron (You are.)?
All that this is about is using proper spelling and grammar to the best of your abilities, and correcting people who type like they're randomly hitting the keyboard while wearing boxing gloves.
Spawning place for grammar nazis

let me show you how this works-

starts out as an ok idea, people do it, spelling gets a little better, around the end of the first week, it comes into contact with ppl WHO DON"T like it, a small shitstorm breaks out. "nothing special", OH REALLY!? shitstorm ends, everyones mad, they had to spell wrong in a fit of rage, realizes it dosent matter, they quit the program.

TL;DR=Back where we started

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Dear Tumblrites: Despite your wrongly self-diagnosed PTSD, no line of scientific evidence suggests people can be triggered over the internet. Triggering works through the senses (i.e. smell, taste, touch, vision, hearing.) but it goes through real time; if you're not experiencing it in real life as it's ACTUALLY HAPPENING in your ACTUAL life, you CANNOT be triggered. The only exception to this is if you have a seizure, but then again, that's triggered by epilepsy (i.e. rapidly-changing flashing lights) NOT PTSD. Remembering a bad incident is NOT the same thing as having a flashback. When you remember, you think; when you flashback, you feel.

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Max Stirnir Wrote:"In the time of spirits thoughts grew till they overtopped my head, whose offspring they yet were; they hovered about me and convulsed me like fever-phantasies -- an awful power. The thoughts had become corporeal on their own account, were ghosts, e. g. God, Emperor, Pope, Fatherland, etc. If I destroy their corporeity, then I take them back into mine, and say: "I alone am corporeal." And now I take the world as what it is to me, as mine, as my property; I refer all to myself." The Ego and Its Own, pg. 15
Charles Manson Wrote:“Look down at me and you see a fool;
look up at me and you see a god;
look straight at me and you see yourself”
HeartofShadows Wrote:"Life is nothing more than a druggie trying to get their quick fix of happiness while dealing with the harsh withdrawal of reality"
Osip Mandelstam Wrote:"I divide all of world literature into authorized and unauthorized works. The former are all trash; the latter--stolen air. I want to spit in the face of every writer who first obtains permission and then writes." The Fourth Prose, 1930.
Lukas Foss Wrote:That is why the analogy of stealing does not work. With a thief, we want to know how much money he stole, and from whom. With the artist it is not how much he took and from whom, but what he did with it.
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Re: Internet Citizens Against Retarded English (ICARE)

Hey people!!! If you want to sound normal then use this... um... *spellchecker* when you post.

http://unintelligencer.com/

Make sure to set it to the right level of (un)intelligence...

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09-01-2009 06:47 AM
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I kinda support this but since i am a TERRIBLE speller, my grammar sucks horse penis, and i make a lot of typos and depend on spell check to get out a sentence... not so much. Im just against this "OMG U R A FAG LOL GTFO CAUSE IMA BETER THAN U!!!!" kinda talk. I know some dyslexics... in fact he said he would join this forum... so try not to be total ass holes about this. then again you are against RETARDED english so i guess its not so bad. but for shit like typos and bad grammer... just ignore it guys.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmXMA34CeoQ
09-01-2009 08:28 AM
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I herby propose this be our theme.
09-02-2009 09:50 PM
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XplodingNoggin Wrote:I herby propose this be our theme.

Dude.



That almost crashed my internets. D:
09-03-2009 07:52 AM
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