SS hasn't changed

[Vatman]

in my eyes.

I have spent the last year and a half reading posts claiming the forum to be a shithole and dead. And I just don't see it.

I suppose people have come and gone...But really now, how active has this forum ever really been? And whenever I go on, there is always one or two people online. I find that rather active for a forum based around a sort of taboo-esc subject.

Another complaint I see is that there isn't enough intelligence on the board.

But this place was never the pinnacle of intellectual discussion, and I always wonder why people expect it to be. Not to say that there have not been points made that may scrape that glass ceiling of intellectualism; but only scraping at best...and don't think I don't include myself in that incessant clawing...about 99% of my thoughts are merely homage to a greater mind.

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Those thoughts aside I should rather point out something positive about this site that continues to amaze me. The comradery. Oh sure, the flames do arise...yet how is anyone surprised. We are mostly teenagers who all in one way or another have been upset or angered by the school system.

Oh right, the friendships. Just like any other situation this does not apply to all who read it. But I have seen many many anonymous users find someone who shares their interests, and create a bond. Those people may be wildly annoying but still. Its magic. Nothing between them but a glowing screen and dozens of grammatical errors and somehow a friendship or more is born. I rarely see a user go to 1,000 posts and not meet someone on this board who eventually has real influence in their life.

And to those of you feel as though that SS is all soulless trolling. I dare you. I double dare you. To tell a story in Voices in your head about emotional pain that you personally have felt or even a friend has felt. Five bucks says someone will care. Where else in a rather cold, breast infested cyberspace can something like that be boasted?

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I now address all of you who have read a post of someone who has left. I say to you readers...do you really think they left because the forum is a shithole? Perhaps they didn't make the bond they hoped they would, perhaps they had their ideas cast off, perhaps they were mocked or disliked, perhaps they had outgrown the forum or simply had better things to do...yet these reasons to leave (however unfortunate they may be)...do not cancel out the truth.

That on this forum you have the right and ability to pursue happiness.

And isn't that just pretty? Cogita ante salis.

[monkey]

I agree.

[The Desert Fox]

I love that post.

[Bob Dole]

I have to say that I agree. It was more of a question of unwanted change and people growing out of the forum rather than any real decline in quality. Just friends leaving us alone and us missing their insight. Man, I still miss HC. And the old member don't tend to stay in a rut and their standards for quality posts are always increasing, leading to more and more dissatisfaction. Personally, I miss it when SS was slow, I knew most everyone. It was so much quieter.

Meh. There are some things I wish I could have back. I really do. I wish Wolfeh and Kirby were still on good terms. I wish HC were here to offer up the knowledge she gained from all her experiences. I wish that the forums still felt more personal and more sincere. But hey, I can't have it all, I s'pose.

[Jesusaurisrex]

agreed. it gets more active every day i feel. and its maturing to.

[The Desert Fox]

Jesusaurisrex Wrote:agreed. it gets more active every day i feel. and its maturing to.

Fix'd.

[Jesusaurisrex]

FINE but i have noticed a steady decrease in troll activity lately. many of our good members are getting better, and mabey it will return to the golden days of SS. (even though i was not here for them, so i would not know)

[AWOL]

Wrong, SS has changed, many members have become assholes (i.e me) and many users who were assholes have become good (No fucking clue).

In the grand scheme of things, this is like taking out a nail or two and replacing them with better or worse nails, but hey, it's still changed. And it will keep on changing, for better or for worse, I doubt I'll ever find out for sure, but it's changing.

[Vatman]

AWOL Wrote:Wrong, SS has changed, many members have become assholes (i.e me) and many users who were assholes have become good (No fucking clue).

In the grand scheme of things, this is like taking out a nail or two and replacing them with better or worse nails, but hey, it's still changed. And it will keep on changing, for better or for worse, I doubt I'll ever find out for sure, but it's changing.

SS isn't the people, SS is the opportunity.

[Paraless]

AWOL Wrote:Wrong, SS has changed, many members have become assholes (i.e me) and many users who were assholes have become good (No fucking clue).

In the grand scheme of things, this is like taking out a nail or two and replacing them with better or worse nails, but hey, it's still changed. And it will keep on changing, for better or for worse, I doubt I'll ever find out for sure, but it's changing.

I agree.

[psychopath]

Jesusaurisrex Wrote:FINE but i have noticed a steady decrease in troll activity lately. many of our good members are getting better, and mabey it will return to the golden days of SS. (even though i was not here for them, so i would not know)

SS has periods of high troll activity. It's like a cycle

[Pieman]

Maybe, but what you said about SS never being the pinnacle of intellectual discussion. Of never being anything great, of just being another anti-school site that doesn't stick out. Well, it means that our rebellious civilization's golden age is coming. It means that we WILL do something great eventually. We just haven't gotten there yet..do not despair.

[~Mystery~]

haha I loved the 'SS is "Soulless" Trolling' Pun

[Elfy]

I imagine if every ss regular was to meet up in the same place we would all get along fine, we would probably set aside our forum flaming and arguments and whatnot.

[Amortisatie]

matty555 Wrote:I imagine if every ss regular was to meet up in the same place we would all get along fine, we would probably set aside our forum flaming and arguments and whatnot.

Except maybe TA would get jumped

But, nice post vatman, I agree

[mudkip liek]

Yeah I agree. This is why I got mad half a year ago when people were trying to "fix" the forum and left because I started bitching. I like it just the way it is. Let it be.

[Rebelnerd]

For once, I can say that I completely agree with vatman's entire post.

[The Desert Fox]

matty555 Wrote:I imagine if every ss regular was to meet up in the same place we would all get along fine, we would probably set aside our forum flaming and arguments and whatnot.

As long as nobody mentions politics, we'll be OK.

[John Tuttle]

The Desert Fox Wrote:

matty555 Wrote:I imagine if every ss regular was to meet up in the same place we would all get along fine, we would probably set aside our forum flaming and arguments and whatnot.

As long as nobody mentions politics, we'll be OK.

And if anybody brings an anarchy flag I'll be the one with the lighter burning it.

[Rebelnerd]

Then I'll spray it with that fireproofing stuff. And bring two. And hang it from a motherfucking fire extinguisher.

[Amortisatie]

I'll bring the American flag for burning

[Jesusaurisrex]

And I will bring my school for burning

[Vatman]

Jesusaurisrex Wrote:And I will bring my school for burning

How did we get to burning schools?

[Thought Criminal]

I've been around for quite a while now and I can say it has definitely changed, and for a while there I think we were kind of in a tough spot but it didn't last very long. To me ss is still the place that I go whenever I need advice, venting, or just a place to talk to friends. I have made ALOT of friends, even a very close relationship with one of our members (wont name her but some of you know about it) ss is sort of like a second family to me, the way I see it it works just like any other. the older members have to move out of the house eventually, though there are those who stick around alot of them tend to outgrow us, it is sad when they leave but that's what newfags are for

[Hanny]

In retrospect, I think that the problem was probably that most of the old members left school, and lost interest in the site, preferring to forget their educational days. New members joined, young and ignorant of the old traditions. But nobody was around to tell them the old traditions, so they invented new traditions, and the town elders disapproved them, preferring the old ones that barely anyone practised anymore.

Give it maybe a year, two years, and there will be another Golden Age of members.

[psychopath]

Hanny Wrote:Give it maybe a year, two years, and there will be another Golden Age of members.

ZOMFG if I stay long enough I'll become an ELDER!

[Hanny]

Don't mock me, it's a metaphor.

[psychopath]

Hanny Wrote:Don't mock me, it's a metaphor.

I'll still be an elder tho, right?

[Hanny]

Sure. 8D

[Sunbourn]

Every online community changes over time, SS is no exception. Activity on a whole may not have decreased, but the intelligence level sure as hell has even since I've joined. In my opinion SS should reconsider it's no ban policy, as it'd sure help weed out the idiots.