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Does school hold back potential ability?

Do you feel that, without school, people would be capable of more than they currently are?
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Re: Does school hold back potential ability?

Defiantly, Since school generally limits your creativity and puts you in a structured environment. Which limits your potential.

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Re: Does school hold back potential ability?

Absolutely. The three conditions necessary for people to reach their full potential are diversity, availability of information and freedom of expression. School provides plenty of information to students, after all, that's its purpose. But by forcing students into a standardized model of education and restricting what they can say or do, schools effectively neuter what their students can do with the knowledge they gain there.

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Re: Does school hold back potential ability?

Without a doubt. Schools do have some learning potential, but they restrict you to what THEY want you to do, not what YOU think is best and have an interest in.

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Yes.

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Re: Does school hold back potential ability?

I agree, but I just wanted to get a discussion going.
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Makes sense....most everything I feel on the subject was already written by the previous posters though, so I just figured that I'd agree and then move on. >_>
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Yes.

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By simply saying "yes," you people are not fulfilling your full potential!

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I'm forced to attend school, that's all I can say.

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Yes, I think about the 1700's. People wrote so fluently. School was nowhere near as bad. Back then, all that was taught were essentials, like reading and writing. And they didn't take your child away because they didn't go to school.

Why else would all the writers of the 1700/1800's seem like geniuses?

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Re: Does school hold back potential ability?

yes it holds you backs and is selective in what it lets you learn.

CrayolaColours Wrote:Yes, I think about the 1700's. People wrote so fluently. School was nowhere near as bad. Back then, all that was taught were essentials, like reading and writing. And they didn't take your child away because they didn't go to school.

Why else would all the writers of the 1700/1800's seem like geniuses?

i wouldnt say that. they had the new england primer http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/nep/1777/index.htm. this thing damn near brain washed kids.

life is just blah blah blah. we hope for blah, and sometimes we find it. but mostly its blah. and waiting for blah. and hoping you were right about the blahs you made. and when you think you just got the whole blah damn thing figured out, and your surrounded by the ones you blah. death shows up and blah blah blah.
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classclown Wrote:yes it holds you backs and is selective in what it lets you learn.

CrayolaColours Wrote:Yes, I think about the 1700's. People wrote so fluently. School was nowhere near as bad. Back then, all that was taught were essentials, like reading and writing. And they didn't take your child away because they didn't go to school.

Why else would all the writers of the 1700/1800's seem like geniuses?

i wouldnt say that. they had the new england primer http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/nep/1777/index.htm. this thing damn near brain washed kids.
See, now you can't really blame them. There pretty much wasn't a soul in America back then that wasn't Christian. It's like teaching History to them. Hell, at least they were taught how to read.

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when i first heard about the primer i raged. it didnt help the person who showed it to be thought it was how it should be now.

life is just blah blah blah. we hope for blah, and sometimes we find it. but mostly its blah. and waiting for blah. and hoping you were right about the blahs you made. and when you think you just got the whole blah damn thing figured out, and your surrounded by the ones you blah. death shows up and blah blah blah.
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Quote:By simply saying "yes," you people are not fulfilling your full potential!
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Yes. By being in school and taking subjects everyone else is taking (for the most part) isn't helping you get better at what you're actually good at. But if there was no school, you'd obviously spend more time doing whatever you were good at or interested in and by now you'd be better at it than ever.

And that's only one example.
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classclown Wrote:it didnt help the person who showed it to be thought it was how it should be now.
that's fucked up.

I think Buenaventura Durruti is a pretty cool guy. eh kills fascists and doesnt afraid of ruins.
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CrayolaColours Wrote:
classclown Wrote:yes it holds you backs and is selective in what it lets you learn.

CrayolaColours Wrote:Yes, I think about the 1700's. People wrote so fluently. School was nowhere near as bad. Back then, all that was taught were essentials, like reading and writing. And they didn't take your child away because they didn't go to school.

Why else would all the writers of the 1700/1800's seem like geniuses?

i wouldnt say that. they had the new england primer http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/nep/1777/index.htm. this thing damn near brain washed kids.
See, now you can't really blame them. There pretty much wasn't a soul in America back then that wasn't Christian. It's like teaching History to them. Hell, at least they were taught how to read.
Actually I can. The fact that this could be at any time or place considered a normal textbook only makes it more disturbing. North Korea always makes a great example, they are one of the most tightly controlled countries in the world. The students are constantly bombarded with propaganda about their oppressive dictator "dear leader" Kim Jong Il, and are basically the most hopelessly brainwashed people in the world. And that doesn't even cover their songs about "Let's go kill the americans/japanese/british/swiss" But then, that's "just like teaching history to them"

Besides, I'm sure there was people back then who we're not christians. Like, I don't know, the people who founded your fucking country. America wasn't founded on the fucking bible, regardless of what faux news might have you believe.

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QUOTE FEST!


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Topic Title is what I'm answering.

Short answer: Yes.

Long answer: Fuck yes.
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Oni-Chiisu Wrote:Topic Title is what I'm answering.

Short answer: Yes.

Long answer: Fuck yes.

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Fire Elf Wrote:America wasn't founded on the fucking bible, regardless of what MSNBC news might have you believe.
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Fire Elf Wrote:Actually I can. The fact that this could be at any time or place considered a normal textbook only makes it more disturbing. North Korea always makes a great example, they are one of the most tightly controlled countries in the world. The students are constantly bombarded with propaganda about their oppressive dictator "dear leader" Kim Jong Il, and are basically the most hopelessly brainwashed people in the world. And that doesn't even cover their songs about "Let's go kill the americans/japanese/british/swiss" But then, that's "just like teaching history to them"

Besides, I'm sure there was people back then who we're not christians. Like, I don't know, the people who founded your fucking country. America wasn't founded on the fucking bible, regardless of what faux news might have you believe.
Really? I didn't know that. That would definately change things. (Is raging now.) I just figured that it was everywhere back then. Why did I not learn about Deists in school? Aren't they supposed to teach you?

Oh wait...

And when I said it was like histroy, I figured something like that was common knowledge way back when. Just like the earth being flat, way, way back when. Like I said earlier, I figured that 95% of America was Christian, or some other bible related religion. And North Korea is a different story all together.

Hmm, was this New England Primer taken away after America became a country? With Washington persident and all.

Very interesting.

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Fire Elf Wrote:
Oni-Chiisu Wrote:Topic Title is what I'm answering.

Short answer: Yes.

Long answer: Fuck yes.

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The Real Desert Fox Wrote:
Fire Elf Wrote:America wasn't founded on the fucking bible, regardless of what MSNBC news might have you believe.
Fix'd.
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Fire Elf Wrote:
The Real Desert Fox Wrote:
Fire Elf Wrote:America wasn't founded on the fucking bible, regardless of what MSNBC news might have you believe.
Fix'd.
fuck off.
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I agree because schools never teaches you how to get rich. It just teaches you how to get a job.
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Definitely, at least the way they're structured now. We definitely need some way to teach future generations, but the current system doesn't work. It squanders ability and creativity unless you have a cool teacher (and luckily I've had a few), and there have many, MANY studies done that show how damaging it is, but nothing changes.

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Yes. Yes. Yes. Fuck yes.

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