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When we have ceased to love the stench of the human animal, either in others or in ourselves, then are we condemned to misery, and clear thinking can begin.
Cyril Connolly

Since I no longer expect anything from mankind except madness, meanness, and mendacity; egotism, cowardice, and self-delusion, I have stopped being a misanthrope.
Irving Layton

It is true that we are weak and sick and ugly and quarrelsome but if that is all we ever were, we would millenniums ago have disappeared from the face of the earth.

John Steinbeck


"I'll show you, when the chips are down these civilized people, will eat each other."

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"the world will look up and shout save us, and I'll whisper no"

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Complete trust = Blind Obedience

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HeartofShadows Wrote:You call it pessimistic and I call it realistic.

I see trees of green,
red roses too.
I see them bloom,
for me and you.
And I think to myself,
what a wonderful world.

I see skies of blue,
And clouds of white.
The bright blessed day,
The dark sacred night.
And I think to myself,
What a wonderful world.

The colors of the rainbow,
So pretty in the sky.
Are also on the faces,
Of people going by,
I see friends shaking hands.
Saying, "How do you do?"
They're really saying,
"I love you".

I hear babies cry,
I watch them grow,
They'll learn much more,
Than I'll ever know.
And I think to myself,
What a wonderful world.

Yes, I think to myself,
What a wonderful world.

Oh yeah.

~Louis Armstrong, What a Wonderful World

Two men look out through the same bars:
One sees the mud, and one the stars.

~Frederick Langbridge

You'll hunt me. You'll condemn me, set the dogs on me. Because that's what needs to happen. Because sometimes... the truth isn't good enough. Sometimes people deserve more. Sometimes people deserve to have their faith rewarded.
~Batman, The Dark Knight

Some people are always grumbling because roses have thorns; I am thankful that thorns have roses.
~Alphonse Karr

I hold it true, whate'er befall;
I feel it, when I sorrow most;
'Tis better to have loved and lost
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Weswammy Wrote:
HeartofShadows Wrote:You call it pessimistic and I call it realistic.

Hidden stuff:
I see trees of green,
red roses too.
I see them bloom,
for me and you.
And I think to myself,
what a wonderful world.

I see skies of blue,
And clouds of white.
The bright blessed day,
The dark sacred night.
And I think to myself,
What a wonderful world.

The colors of the rainbow,
So pretty in the sky.
Are also on the faces,
Of people going by,
I see friends shaking hands.
Saying, "How do you do?"
They're really saying,
"I love you".

I hear babies cry,
I watch them grow,
They'll learn much more,
Than I'll ever know.
And I think to myself,
What a wonderful world.

Yes, I think to myself,
What a wonderful world.

Oh yeah.

~Louis Armstrong, What a Wonderful World

Two men look out through the same bars:
One sees the mud, and one the stars.

~Frederick Langbridge

You'll hunt me. You'll condemn me, set the dogs on me. Because that's what needs to happen. Because sometimes... the truth isn't good enough. Sometimes people deserve more. Sometimes people deserve to have their faith rewarded.
~Batman, The Dark Knight

Some people are always grumbling because roses have thorns; I am thankful that thorns have roses.
~Alphonse Karr

I hold it true, whate'er befall;
I feel it, when I sorrow most;
'Tis better to have loved and lost
Than never to have loved at all.

~ Alfred Tennyson

“The idealist is incorrigible: if he is thrown out of his heaven he makes an ideal of his hell.”
Friedrich Nietzsche

“An idealist is one who helps the other fellow to make a profit”
Henry Ford

“An idealist is a person who helps other people to be prosperous”
Henry Ford

“Idealist: a cynic in the making.”
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HeartofShadows Wrote:
Weswammy Wrote:
HeartofShadows Wrote:You call it pessimistic and I call it realistic.

Hidden stuff:
I see trees of green,
red roses too.
I see them bloom,
for me and you.
And I think to myself,
what a wonderful world.

I see skies of blue,
And clouds of white.
The bright blessed day,
The dark sacred night.
And I think to myself,
What a wonderful world.

The colors of the rainbow,
So pretty in the sky.
Are also on the faces,
Of people going by,
I see friends shaking hands.
Saying, "How do you do?"
They're really saying,
"I love you".

I hear babies cry,
I watch them grow,
They'll learn much more,
Than I'll ever know.
And I think to myself,
What a wonderful world.

Yes, I think to myself,
What a wonderful world.

Oh yeah.

~Louis Armstrong, What a Wonderful World

Two men look out through the same bars:
One sees the mud, and one the stars.

~Frederick Langbridge

You'll hunt me. You'll condemn me, set the dogs on me. Because that's what needs to happen. Because sometimes... the truth isn't good enough. Sometimes people deserve more. Sometimes people deserve to have their faith rewarded.
~Batman, The Dark Knight

Some people are always grumbling because roses have thorns; I am thankful that thorns have roses.
~Alphonse Karr

I hold it true, whate'er befall;
I feel it, when I sorrow most;
'Tis better to have loved and lost
Than never to have loved at all.

~ Alfred Tennyson

Hidden stuff:
“The idealist is incorrigible: if he is thrown out of his heaven he makes an ideal of his hell.”
Friedrich Nietzsche

“An idealist is one who helps the other fellow to make a profit”
Henry Ford

“An idealist is a person who helps other people to be prosperous”
Henry Ford

“Idealist: a cynic in the making.”
Irving Layton

“When did I realize I was God? Well, I was praying and I suddenly realized I was talking to myself.”
Anonymous

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"You ask particularly after my health. I suppose that I have not many months to live; but, of course, I know nothing about it. I may add that I am enjoying existence as much as ever, and regret nothing." ~Henry David Thoreau

"No good thing is ever lost. Nothing dies, not even life which gives up one form only to resume another. No good action, no good example dies. It lives forever in our race. While the frame moulders and disappears, the deed leaves an indelible stamp, and moulds the very thought and will of future generations." ~Samuel Smiles

"Cities and Thrones and Powers,
Stand in Time's eye,
Almost as long as flowers,
Which daily die:
But, as new buds put forth
To glad new men,
Out of the spent and unconsidered Earth,
The Cities rise again."

~Rudyard Kipling

"Someone who thinks well of himself is said to have a healthy self-concept and is envied. Someone who thinks well of his country is called a patriot and is applauded. But someone who thinks well of his species is regarded as hopelessly naïve and is dismissed." ~Alfie Kohn

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This thread is now pessimistic quotes vs. optimistic quotes.

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(11-27-2011 01:00 PM)psychopath Wrote:  
(11-27-2011 10:52 AM)Efs Wrote:  Our Army is more professional than Amerika. Smile
Except ours isn't allowed to have guns
CrayolaColours Wrote:That post owned. TDF wins post of the year.
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krissy Wrote:dessert fox
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The Desert Fox Wrote:This thread is now pessimistic quotes vs. optimistic quotes.

Goddamn straight.

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The Desert Fox Wrote:This thread is now realistic quotes vs. optimistic quotes.

Fixed!

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HeartofShadows Wrote:
The Desert Fox Wrote:This thread is now sad puppy quotes vs. inspiring happy kitten quotes.

Fixed!
I'm pretty sure this is right.

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Weswammy Wrote:
HeartofShadows Wrote:
The Desert Fox Wrote:This thread is now sad puppy quotes vs. inspiring happy kitten quotes.

Fixed!
I'm pretty sure this is right.
At the time of reading this post, I have a very happy puppy looking at me.

Serious.

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(11-27-2011 01:00 PM)psychopath Wrote:  
(11-27-2011 10:52 AM)Efs Wrote:  Our Army is more professional than Amerika. Smile
Except ours isn't allowed to have guns
CrayolaColours Wrote:That post owned. TDF wins post of the year.
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krissy Wrote:dessert fox
Mmm, flambéed vulpine.
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The Desert Fox Wrote:I'm pretty sure this is right.
At the time of reading this post, I have a very happy puppy looking at me.

Serious.[/quote]

I have a great dane with a droopy face nudging me.

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"Military men are just dumb stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy."
Henry Kissinger

“Education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework, and you make an effort to be smart ... you can do well. If you don't, YOU GET STUCK IN IRAQ.”
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HeartofShadows Wrote:"Military men are just dumb stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy."
Henry Kissinger

“Education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework, and you make an effort to be smart ... you can do well. If you don't, YOU GET STUCK IN IRAQ.”
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Weswammy Wrote:
HeartofShadows Wrote:"Military men are just dumb stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy."
Henry Kissinger

“Education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework, and you make an effort to be smart ... you can do well. If you don't, YOU GET STUCK IN IRAQ.”
— Senator John Kerry
"Every post is honorable in which a man can serve his country."
George Washington

"But in a large sense we cannot dedicate, we cannot hallow this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it far above our poor power to add or detract."
Abraham Lincoln

Gotta admit those two above guys at least gave two good trolling quotes for military officials.
Whether military men are honorable or not I gotta admit one thing..
Glad its not me being shot at and that there are people who will go get shot at for me less we have a draft or something(though if we had it people might be smarter about their wars).

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HeartofShadows Wrote:Gotta admit those two above guys at least gave two good trolling quotes for military officials.
Whether military men are honorable or not I gotta admit one thing..
Glad its not me being shot at and that there are people who will go get shot at for me less we have a draft or something(though if we had it people might be smarter about their wars).

Not everyone who goes to war will ever see combat. My dad needs to realize this too.

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Derchin Wrote:
HeartofShadows Wrote:Gotta admit those two above guys at least gave two good trolling quotes for military officials.
Whether military men are honorable or not I gotta admit one thing..
Glad its not me being shot at and that there are people who will go get shot at for me less we have a draft or something(though if we had it people might be smarter about their wars).

Not everyone who goes to war will ever see combat. My dad needs to realize this too.

Yeah I already know(had to talk to my mom about it) Just like to joke.
Still I don't want to join the military and I got friends who are officiers who are still on wait for positions because people don't want to retire.

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HeartofShadows Wrote:
Derchin Wrote:
HeartofShadows Wrote:Gotta admit those two above guys at least gave two good trolling quotes for military officials.
Whether military men are honorable or not I gotta admit one thing..
Glad its not me being shot at and that there are people who will go get shot at for me less we have a draft or something(though if we had it people might be smarter about their wars).

Not everyone who goes to war will ever see combat. My dad needs to realize this too.

Yeah I already know(had to talk to my mom about it) Just like to joke.
Still I don't want to join the military and I got friends who are officiers who are still on wait for positions because people don't want to retire.

Oh.

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"See, if you love a person then you love the WHOLE person, including their flaws. You might not LIKE those flaws, but you LOVE that person, so you fucking deal with it! Hell, you don't even have to go as far as loving a person. All you have to do is have a little respect for the differences in people and realize that not everyone is going to be exactly the way you want them to fucking be and THAT'S PERFECTLY FINE, YOU IDIOT! "
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"The pessimist sees a tangled piece of rope and mopes because untangling it would be too hard and pointless. The optimist sees a tangled piece of rope and tries to untangle it, despite the time, frustration and patience that comes with it. The philosopher understands why the rope is tangled up in the first place. "
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"The illusion of freedom [in America] will continue as long as it’s profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater." -- Frank Zappa

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Cool story Deezy.

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"You don't strike, you just go to work everyday and do your job real half-ass. That's the American way!" -Homer Simpson (My sig)

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(03-08-2012 05:29 AM)Derchin Wrote:  "You don't strike, you just go to work everyday and do your job real half-ass. That's the American way!" -Homer Simpson (My sig)

Thats a quote I remember from the episode of the simpsons when lisa wanted to strike. shame those times have passed.

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I saw that episode too. I seem to suspect we could apply that to school too...

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There is an expression in the Wasteland: "Old World Blues." It refers to those so obsessed with the past they can't see the present, much less the future, for what it is. They stare into the what-was, eyes like pilot lights, guttering and spent, as the realities of their world continue on around them. Science is a long, steady progression into the future. What may seem a sudden event often isn't felt for years, even centuries, to come.

In the times following the Second Battle of Hoover Dam, however, Old World Blues took on a new meaning. Where once it was viewed as a form of sadness, nostalgia, it became an expression describing the potential for the future. It can be easy to see Science as evil, technology unchecked as the source of all ills, all misfortunes. With the Courier at the helm, Science became a beacon for the future. There was Old World Blues, and New World Hope. And hope ruled the day at Big MT.

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"People hate who they are, but love who they cannot be."
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"And thus I clothe my naked villainy, with old odd ends stolen forth from holy writ and seem a saint when most I play the devil."
Shakespeare's Richard III, Act I Scene 3
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