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Another mindless bullshit muse on anarchism
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Another mindless bullshit muse on anarchism

Here's your problem, folks. Now, I'm not a political sort of fellow, and I'm neither pragmatic nor idealistic. However, I can see a few ideas, maybe just one or two, but enough that I'll throw it out in the open.

You can feel free to critcise the shit out of this piece of filth. I really welcome it. Don't pay attention to my use of the english language, though. That won't get you anywhere but bullshitville.

The problem with the anarchist movements start off with the fact that 1) They aspire to some sort of ficticious idealistic goal that will never happen. They live in a world where perfect does exist - granted, somewhere off in the future, but it exists. Most of them will be quick to deny this because this is some deep psychological shit that fucks up everyone. Everyone has some perfect ideal to look foward to that's never going to happen, and so do those who label themselves as part of the anarchist movement.

2) To make any remote progress towards this unacheivable goal, they would have to play the power game, which requires subtle manipulation - not something very good when the movement consists mostly of punk ass bitches who sit around pissing and moaning with their group of fuckbuddies so they can stroke each others egos.

3) The reality is that the movement has probably hindered and not helped. Right now is heaven on earth. Right now is the perfect world. If you can realize this right now and act on it, you have a much better chance of creating a psychological anarchism that would be more true than any form of voluntary but-not-really-since-nothing-external-is-voluntary-collective-yadeedadeedadeee could ever provide. stoicism and zen have scratched on this notion forever. unfortunately, most people are too uprooted in such extreme intellectual gymnastics trying to make a complete pattern out of infinite chaos to notice the spiritual (or psychological, whatever gobbly gook you wanna call it) component.

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01-04-2010 07:43 PM
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Quote:The problem with the anarchist movements start off with the fact that 1) They aspire to some sort of ficticious idealistic goal that will never happen. They live in a world where perfect does exist - granted, somewhere off in the future, but it exists. Most of them will be quick to deny this because this is some deep psychological shit that fucks up everyone. Everyone has some perfect ideal to look foward to that's never going to happen, and so do those who label themselves as part of the anarchist movement.

Main reason I'm not an anarchist, it defies human nature in that humanity aren't greedy fucks and won't only look out for themselves while also saying that general humanity is smart enough to take care of and do things itself, maybe in the past but not anymore.

Quote:2) To make any remote progress towards this unacheivable goal, they would have to play the power game, which requires subtle manipulation - not something very good when the movement consists mostly of punk ass bitches who sit around pissing and moaning with their group of fuckbuddies so they can stroke each others egos.

Also agree, any dumbass can claim to be an anarchist while he blogs about his ideals to a half drunk dumbass sitting in his bathroom at home with wine coolers.

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Re: Another mindless bullshit muse on anarchism

My views are towards anarchist, but not necessarily. I prefer it over capitalism at least.

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Re: Another mindless bullshit muse on anarchism

Assuming that you mean anarcho-socialism, I agree with points #1 and 2, Ahab.

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01-05-2010 03:54 AM
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Re: Another mindless bullshit muse on anarchism

Anarcho-socialism

Rofl.

Kirby, anarchism can only be anarcho-socialism, anarcho-capitalism can't be anarchism with it's hierarchy.

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The reason I wrote that is because the term anarchy is used by both groups but to mean different things. It's a semantic confusion that's really annoying.

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01-05-2010 12:32 PM
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Re: Another mindless bullshit muse on anarchism

Swift Wrote:Anarcho-socialism

Rofl.

Kirby, anarchism can only be anarcho-socialism, anarcho-capitalism can't be anarchism with it's hierarchy.
Socialism, as far as I know, is everyone getting the same thing no matter what they do.
I agree with Ahab. My "philosophy" is that something like you can't create a perfect world for everyone, do what you can best, try to be free for yourself, bleh.

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Swift Wrote:Anarcho-socialism

Rofl.

Kirby, anarchism can only be anarcho-socialism, anarcho-capitalism can't be anarchism with it's hierarchy.
Socialism, as far as I know, is everyone getting the same thing no matter what they do.
I agree with Ahab. My "philosophy" is that something like you can't create a perfect world for everyone, do what you can best, try to be free for yourself, bleh.

My definition of a typical reactionary is you. Equal wages depends on the variant of socialism.

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Re: Another mindless bullshit muse on anarchism

It'd be great if the whole world were an Anarchy, but doing it so for one's own self-liberation is just as good.

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Re: Another mindless bullshit muse on anarchism

The thing is, pretty much every ideology has some aspect that goes against human nature. Human nature is inherently self-destructive, so maybe it's time we start trying to change ourselves to accommodate an ideology rather than the other way around. It would be hard, but we'll probably have to do it eventually to avoid living on a radioactive chunk of space rock. Any anarchist who says that there is some magical formula for anarchy that would let us all just sit back and bask in the new freedom is deluding himself. Just like with any other system, there would be constant conflicts as people try to overthrow it and replace it with their own. And a population that wants to live in freedom would need to be constantly vigilant and ready to endure danger and hardship to protect that freedom. The same can be said for pretty much any ideology and it's no reason to just abandon it.

Also, Catalonia.

I think Buenaventura Durruti is a pretty cool guy. eh kills fascists and doesnt afraid of ruins.
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Don't forget medieval Iceland.

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