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Student unions

I've been thinking that an effective way of going out about changing the current systems of education would be to form student unions. I think they occur somewhat often in the college setting, but I haven't heard them being formed that often K-12.

I'm not talking about a student government really more like a trade union where the reps from the union would talk with their employer (in this case the schools) on issues that affect the workers (students) and if a settlement could not be reached their would be organized strikes (walkouts) until the employers (schools) felt like talking.

Every student K-12 would be eligible to join and they could be set up with individual chapters in different locales. Would operate under the "one worker, one vote" principle.

What do you think?

PS: since there's a lot of legal bullshit over actually forming a "union" you could call them organizations.
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Re: Student unions

Actually, people would probably dismiss it as a phase.

It's not as if we can go on strike or something- we'd get in quite a bit of trouble.

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Re: Student unions

^ There would be some serious strength in numbers though.

At least in the US schools get money from states based in part on how many students are there each day. So risking getting in trouble would be worth it 'cause large scale walkouts would force schools to start listening.

The only problem would be the risk of parent's getting in trouble with the law, but fining or arresting hundreds of parents would be problematic for the authorities.
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Re: Student unions

Loxor Wrote:Actually, people would probably dismiss it as a phase.

It's not as if we can go on strike or something- we'd get in quite a bit of trouble.
You do realize that we don't care if we get in trouble, right? The whole point of protesting is that we don't give a shit about us getting in trouble.

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Re: Student unions

Yeah, have fun when they throw you in jail (or whatever the hell truancy does), when I'm pretty damn sure they wouldn't to an adult.

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Re: Student unions

Them throwing young people in jail might not necessarily be a bad thing.

I don't like to compare the anti-school movement with the civil rights movement of the 60's but lessons really could be learned from the Birmingham campaign. The images of police brutality against young people in that series of protests helped to really outrage sane people against the racists.

Don't get me wrong I'm not saying the police would use attack dogs like they did in Birmingham, but my point is the media covering police acting like dicks towards the youth could play to our advantage.
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Re: Student unions

Skyks Wrote:Them throwing young people in jail might not necessarily be a bad thing.

I don't like to compare the anti-school movement with the civil rights movement of the 60's but lessons really could be learned from the Birmingham campaign. The images of police brutality against young people in that series of protests helped to really outrage sane people against the racists.

Don't get me wrong I'm not saying the police would use attack dogs like they did in Birmingham, but my point is the media covering police acting like dicks towards the youth could play to our advantage.
Danke.
If things get as hot as we want them to, we could play that to our advantage and either get them out of jail or play them as a martyr.

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Re: Student unions

also:

Nothing will ever change unless you are willing to take risks.
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I'm saying that I don't think it would end the same way as if we were adults.

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Re: Student unions

Loxor Wrote:I'm saying that I don't think it would end the same way as if we were adults.
What, so we should wait until we're adults to help kids? Doesn't that sort of ruin it? I mean, it does for me. There's something romantic about the oppressed rising for themselves.

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Re: Student unions

Yeah, I know, I'd do it if I could get enough people, the problem is I see us being oppressed without a thought.

Anything that ever happened or will... one condition, it has to be amazing.

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Loxor Wrote:Yeah, I know, I'd do it if I could get enough people, the problem is I see us being oppressed without a thought.
Loxor, my brother, you have to show them! Don't be cynical! Tell them, get them riled up! Don't just stand around here being useless! Tell them what's up! Some will listen, and you'll have made progress! With the power of your spirit, of your cause, your numbers will grow until you have enough people on your side to pierce their power! You don't need to wait! You need to act! Hating them will only stop you.

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Re: Student unions

You're not going to tell me to give into hate and strike you down?

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Loxor Wrote:You're not going to tell me to give into hate and strike you down?
Of course not! Focus your hate on the enemy!

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Re: Student unions

Heh.

I'll keep that in mind.

*Force lightning here I come*

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You say you want a revolution - well, you know, we all want to save the world....
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So, I am seriously considering doing this. The first obstacle I face is getting at least 10 students that are willing and ready to do this with me. That will hopefully be the hardest part. I'm also going to want a teacher to help back us up, as an equal.

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Yeah, you need enough to not make it seem like you're just being a whiny shit, and actually serious.

IF YOU DO IT THEY WILL COME.

(Many more supporters)

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Loxor Wrote:Yeah, you need enough to not make it seem like you're just being a whiny shit, and actually serious.

IF YOU DO IT THEY WILL COME.

(Many more supporters)
Ha, as if some whiny shit would go as far as to form a union. Who the hell do they think we are? Tomorrow begins the quest for ten students and at least one teacher!

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Re: Student unions

Good luck Colin.
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Skyks Wrote:Good luck Colin.
Many thanks. But, it will be the people who also want to create a student union who will need the luck! One day, there must be a network of unions. Then we will have a very nice, national presence.

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Ah, kids will just say that those ass kissing puppets in Student Council are already a union. Don't get yourself thrown in jail. We need you out here.

I think Buenaventura Durruti is a pretty cool guy. eh kills fascists and doesnt afraid of ruins.
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A union, or whatever you want to call it, is a good idea.

I've never let my school interfere with my education.
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Rebelnerd Wrote:Ah, kids will just say that those ass kissing puppets in Student Council are already a union. Don't get yourself thrown in jail. We need you out here.
Out here doing what, exactly? This is just the kind of action we could use.

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Pfft. We Britfags have no student unions.
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I'd love to, but I'm in this exceptionally gifted program away from my home district, and I don't wanna get kicked out. What the fuck would I brag about if I fucking got kicked out? Plus I have a lot of friends there.

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(01-18-2010 04:30 PM)SoulRiser Wrote:  We has guide:

that perfect correctly english

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oh and also No one has any rights. We're free, rights create invisible restrictions. But we live in a society where the majority accepts rights to be true.
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(05-14-2017 06:18 AM)Hansgrohe Wrote:  Lmao

their pee should hv been shot out like a ki blast breaking the rocks

oh and also No one has any rights. We're free, rights create invisible restrictions. But we live in a society where the majority accepts rights to be true.
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