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Sepia Wrote:The problem isn't algebra. It's school itself. Algebra is as much of a victim as you. Divide and conquer.
Well anyways, I don't use algebra.
The only people I can think of who use algebra are Scientists.
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Yeah, algebra is pretty useful and I would learn it, but the way school "teaches" it is pure shit. They have bad examples and that's what makes it hard. In truth, it's not algebra that's hard, it's how schools teach it. But some algebra, like the distributive property, is completely useless, because I can't think of an instance when I would use it. Plus, it makes no sense.
YOU ARE GOING TO NEED IT IN SCHOOL WHEN THEY FORCE YOU HOW TO LEARN IT, AND THEN TEST YOU ON IT SO THEY CAN MAKE YOU FEEL USELESS WHEN YOU DON'T GET IT.
"People often compete to be considered right rather than collaborating to find the real answer."-Will.
Why does the OP assume that the reason they have math class is that people think that math's going to be useful later? And Coma Girl is right, sort of. You're gonna need math for college.
It all depends on how you use it. School also teaches a bunch of useless stuff and makes it harder than it really is, and teaches it the wrong way. Depending on what you want, with your life, you might not need it.
night.artist Wrote:My mom says she uses Algebra at work...my mom works inthe immunology lab at the hospital (at least that's what i think she does)
I can just imagine what your mom is doing in that hospital... >.>
What?
I've gone to work with her, she puts these...test tubey thingies in some big machine and then types some stuff into a computer, or puts...idk blood samples into some wierd microwavey looking thingy.
OP - Out of all the things that are taught in school, I happen to think mathematics IS the usefull one. History, now that's a subject I always felt was quite useless (but that's just my opinion)
You may not ever need to use the quadratic formula more than a couple times in your life, but learning mathematicss makes you understand the processes of basic logic. That is a very, very usefull thing which can be applied to all areas of life. Somebody else pointed out computer programming uses the same sort of logic. It's another way to get that logic.
Also, depending on what field you go into you really might need to use a lot of math. You'd be surprised where it turns up
Thade Wrote:I agree. Unless, you are like a carpenter you're never goning to need to figure out x if x=y times k divided by 2
ya one thing useful though is that the logic skills will help you to be a better carpenter. It's safe to say every construction project is going to run into some bumps along the way, and the better apt you are to figure out how to circumvent and get around those problems, the much things are going to be for you
Although I will agree, I'm not sure how much true logic skills you develop from studying algebra. Actually I think in the high schools they should offer straight logic classes, like basics of proofs, etc. Those are the ones that really make you think differently. That would be a really useful class to offer! I've never seen it offered in high school either :/
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Quote:You may not ever need to use the quadratic formula more than a couple times in your life, but learning mathematicss makes you understand the processes of basic logic. That is a very, very usefull thing which can be applied to all areas of life. Somebody else pointed out computer programming uses the same sort of logic. It's another way to get that logic.
Just one tiny problem with that: school makes learning maths so boring that kids try to avoid maths and logical thinking as much as possible in their free time, which results in them not actually learning logic much at all... as is quite evident in society today.
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I enjoy maths but I don't believe it should be forced upon others on a complex level.
They want the majority to be a good a maths so they can have a wide variety of jobs to create wealth and be a slave succeed.
But thats my opinion. School is a shit place to learn it though, it demotivates a lot of people and is backed up with tests and exams and various other bullcrap to make it less fun.