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I can tell our new admin is jockeying to fire me

I can tell our new admin is jockeying to fire me at the end of the year. For me, it's impossible to change anything from inside or outside. It's pointless, frustrating and depressing. :waah: Life can be really exhausting.

If you want to be a different fish, you've got to jump out of the school.


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Re: I can tell our new admin is jockeying to fire me

Look, you can't expect to "change the system" if you're at the lowest part of the system, the grunt of the school system. Maybe being a teacher would help get you some credibility when dealing with educational issues, but really as a teacher you are part of the system, you are helping it, unless you're not doing your official job and you somehow bring down the system in a way harmless to the students, which I doubt.
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It's not like I'm a deep dish revolutionary or anything but I do (and don't do) a lot of things that make life a bit easier on the kids I teach.

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Re: I can tell our new admin is jockeying to fire me

I know this isn't the most sympathetic forum for teachers but I thought you guys might say something like 'Keep your chin up Cancer or something like that'

Isn't it obvious I'm looking for sympathy???

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TheCancer Wrote:I know this isn't the most sympathetic forum for teachers but I thought you guys might say something like 'Keep your chin up Cancer or something like that'

Isn't it obvious I'm looking for sympathy???
No one should come here looking for sympathy... teacher or otherwise. Too many assholes here.

Hopefully you'll find another job if it ever comes to that.

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TheCancer Wrote:I know this isn't the most sympathetic forum for teachers but I thought you guys might say something like 'Keep your chin up Cancer or something like that'

Isn't it obvious I'm looking for sympathy???
No one should come here looking for sympathy... teacher or otherwise. Too many assholes here.

Hopefully you'll find another job if it ever comes to that.
Hopefully a less immoral one.

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I'm not very good with words of encouragement, but I do hope that you don't get fired, or if you do you find another one quickly, hopefully where they'll accept you more.
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If you can find some democratic schools in your area, I'd bet it'd be pretty awesome to teach at one of those.

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I wish you the best - hopefully things will work out. Just keep your appraisal scores up, and get in contact with a Union Representative - I hear they're helpful for teachers to have. But, what is it exactly that's wedged up this admin's butt? What's his beef? Does he find you to be too supportive? Too caring, for his tastes?

Or, is there really something that you can improve on?

If there is something that you can improve on that will make your admin happier, do it! Job security is probably closely related to happiness - and if you can redeem yourself, it'll be one less load of stress on your plate.

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Quote:But, what is it exactly that's wedged up this admin's butt? What's his beef?

She's new at our school but she knew me when I used to sub at her school and as a sub I just totally ignored the sub plans and did whatever I wanted. Then when I got a full time position the child of one of the teachers at the school I subbed at was in my class and she (the teacher mommy) never shut her mouth for a minute about how much she hated me.

Quote:Does he find you to be too supportive? Too caring, for his tastes?

One class I teach is a special ed. academic support class with only 10 students and I take about five minutes at the start every day to ask each one individually if there's anything I can help them with at school. I don't phrase it like that because the kids wouldn't respond so I just go around saying, 'So what's up?' I actually have a lot of power to improve their lives. I've been able to prevent fights, stop other kids from calling them 'retard' and names like that, discovered who didn't even have money for their reduced lunch (not even 50 cents) so I make sure they get a lunch no matter what (not just the crappy free grilled cheese everyday- I just pay for it myself), I discovered two children were suicidal and may have saved their lives- and so on. But now I've been told that EVERY second of class must be dedicated to their state standardized testing score. ANYTHING besides that is considered to be out of complaince. But not only that - EXACTLY what weaknesses in the students academics is predetermined by previous tests and they're not do ANYTHING else, EVER. There's no way I'm giving up everything I've worked on as far as building a sense of community with my disabled students just to harp on one damn test and do exactly the same thing again that they do all day just to pick up a few more points in the 'annual yearly progress' game that keeps our school in compliance with No Child Left Behind. They know that the chances of my students graduating high school with a general diploma with the testing standards set like they are now is very unlikely so the points they gain on the test only benefit the admin. They don't even help me because the scores come out over the summer when my next contract has already been accpeted or denied. One year at another school I had the highest gains in our whole department but I still got let go.

Quote: Or, is there really something that you can improve on?

There's lots I can improve on and two sides to every story. Is it about my teaching, is it about my past, is it because other teachers don't like my laid back ways, is it because I pass EVERYBODY (even in general ed.), is it because I refuse to show 'leadership' (which boils down to yelling at students during lunch and in the halls)? It's always a combination of things. I've gone nuts in meetings behind the scenes, cussing and throwing things- because the garbage they try to feed me- seriously- it's awful.

Quote:If there is something that you can improve on that will make your admin happier, do it! Job security is probably closely related to happiness - and if you can redeem yourself, it'll be one less load of stress on your plate

I hear you! I've always been a hippy gypsy type floating around from one thing to the next but yeah it wears you out.

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Sometimes doing things your own way makes others angry. I'd suggest just improving on what you wan't to improve and teaching the students how you want' to teach them. It sounds like a good system to me.

The thing is, I'm not the one who has to support myself with a stable job, so do what you have to do, just try not to change yourself just to keep a job.

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Absentinsomniac Wrote:Sometimes doing things your own way makes others angry. I'd suggest just improving on what you wan't to improve and teaching the students how you want' to teach them. It sounds like a good system to me.

The thing is, I'm not the one who has to support myself with a stable job, so do what you have to do, just try not to change yourself just to keep a job.

Thanks. I never have and I never will.

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What the fuck? Seriously, what the fuck? You're getting fired?! Ouch...I've been reading this forum and deciphering it carefully, from what I've gathered you are the epitome of an ingenious, revolutionary teacher. Though the irony is your getting fired...Though I have a lot of apathy for teacher's you seem to the black sheep amongst the flock, you seem like a wonderfully caring and supportive woman. Frankly the new admin isn't able to comprehend and hypothesize what good teaching is, some of your methods may be unorthodox according to many teachers. Though I believe your methods have done a significant amount of greatness to the school, this abomination of an admin thinks they are the embodiment of tyranny when really there futile entities you can have revolutionize the system in are favor do everything you can to not get yourself sacked, love a teacher like you would be brilliant in the Uk the school system is so distorted...Hug Good luck.
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I'm still not surprised at all, my aunt was fired for the very same reasons.

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Do your students like you? I mean, a lot.

Because, I've known one teacher like you, but the schools too chickenshit to fire him, because 1. His wife is the math teacher, and 2. Because almost everyone gets an A on the standardized tests. Only 2 people failed it, out of the whole school. He's probably the best teacher our school has ever had. His only problem is he bombards us with class work. He just teaches so fast, I get confused on my slow days. Shrug

Okay, I'm actually going somewhere with this. If he said he was getting fired, I'd start a petition, and get the fucking media involved. Maybe your students would do the same?

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Thank you, that was very kind.

Quote:Do your students like you? I mean, a lot.

Some do, some don't.

Quote:His only problem is he bombards us with class work. He just teaches so fast, I get confused on my slow days.

I actually teach very slowly.

Quote:Okay, I'm actually going somewhere with this. If he said he was getting fired, I'd start a petition, and get the [snip] media involved. Maybe your students would do the same?

I wouldn't want anything like that. Even the thought of it makes me uncomfortable. I don't want to be in a spotlight or under a microscope. I want to fly under the radar.

On a sidenote, one thing that makes me suspicious of Cotto is that he won those teacher of the year awards. There's a lot of self-promotion behind that kind of thing.

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Gatto?

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CrayolaColours Wrote:Gatto?

Yeah, my bad.

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Yea, I always wondered how that was possible.

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Have you tried showing her this? Remember - learning is the top one or possibly the second-top one.

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