"Teens have less judgement control"

[Cosbydaf]

I heard my English teacher talking about this today. Supposedly, it's been scientifically proven that the part of the brain that controls judgment is underdeveloped in children and teenagers.

On the same subject is this article I found:
http://www.webmd.com/news/20060907/teen ... l-about-me

Damn, that teen brain can't do anything right can it?

There may be something to this, but my gut feeling is that it's been highly exaggerated. It also used to be believed that women where dumber than men because their brains are smaller.

[Desu]

I question the results of studies such as these because you have to be careful of jumping to the conclusion that "less judgement control" is an intrinsic part of the teen brain. It's possible that through widespread accepted stereotypes (teens are wild animals) that teens themselves will believe it, and they will have less judgement control.

But it's bullshit to some degree. Of course the people conducting these studies already have massive confirmation bias due to teen stereotypes being universally accepted and unchallenged.

And adults make shit decisions all the time.

[LOON_ATTIC]

The first line made me facepalm.
I am NOT like that at all, unless I don't respect the people around me.

I raged too much to really read the rest, but it just seem a large amount of bullshit and hypothesis, doesn't look very scientific to me. PERHAPS they're right with the fucking majority, but not EVERY SINGLE NIGGER UNDER THE AGE OF 18 HAS NO JUDGMENT CONTROL MAN.
(I used that word referring to discrimination in the past, using something like "person" wouldn't be very precise with how they treat and think of us)

[Cosbydaf]

Lunatic Wrote:(I used that word referring to discrimination in the past, using something like "person" wouldn't be very precise with how they treat and think of us)

It's a disturbingly accurate comparison, I'd say. Otherwise decent people can be extremely hateful and bigoted when it comes to "acceptable targets".

[The Desert Fox]

To save my computer screen from needing to be repaired again, I'll have to finish reading the article later.

[AWOL]

Actually, it's true. It's a good thing, too. It's what makes us question limitations and other such things. Racism and feminism weere often protested by teens, of all people. Wonder why...

[LOON_ATTIC]

AWOL Wrote:Actually, it's true. It's a good thing, too. It's what makes us question limitations and other such things. Racism and feminism weere often protested by teens, of all people. Wonder why...

Whaat?

[Leon Kinotolian]

AWOL Wrote:Actually, it's true. It's a good thing, too. It's what makes us question limitations and other such things. Racism and feminism weere often protested by teens, of all people. Wonder why...

Hm... Explain your logic further, then I might be arsed to comment. When I wake up, that is.

[Prince Rilian]

So that sympathy I feel for other people, that's fake?

[Cosbydaf]

Prince Rilian Wrote:So that sympathy I feel for other people, that's fake?

Nah, Teens have real feelings.

But adults won't take teen's emotions seriously, because it's common knowledge that the hormones released in puberty wildly affect the teenage brain, which makes their thoughts and opinions less valid...somehow.

Starting to notice a pattern?

[Desu]

Cosbydaf Wrote:

Prince Rilian Wrote:So that sympathy I feel for other people, that's fake?

Nah, Teens have real feelings.

But adults won't take teen's emotions seriously, because it's common knowledge that the hormones released in puberty wildly affect the teenage brain, which makes their thoughts and opinions less valid...somehow.

Starting to notice a pattern?

Win.

[యూజర్ పేరు]

Didn't people say blacks have less judgement control during the Jim Crow era too?

[Ceiling Cat]

Michio Wrote:

Cosbydaf Wrote:

Prince Rilian Wrote:So that sympathy I feel for other people, that's fake?

Nah, Teens have real feelings.

But adults won't take teen's emotions seriously, because it's common knowledge that the hormones released in puberty wildly affect the teenage brain, which makes their thoughts and opinions less valid...somehow.

Starting to notice a pattern?

Win.

Women and 'hysteria' plz.

All of these examples are clearly a proof how much of a bullshit psychiatry is, it's just a tool to fabricate 'scientific' evidence against a hated group.

[AWOL]

Ceiling Cat Wrote:All of these examples are clearly a proof how much of a bullshit psychiatry is, it's just a tool to fabricate 'scientific' evidence against a hated group.

Fuck's sakes, no. Psychiatry is a legitimate field of study, stop thinking that all psychiatrists are the people who just give Ritalin to every problematic child who walks through their office. For a feminazi, you sure are discriminative and generalist. Ohwait, feminazi, discriminative. Never mind, same thing.

Leon Kinotolian Wrote:

AWOL Wrote:Actually, it's true. It's a good thing, too. It's what makes us question limitations and other such things. Racism and feminism weere often protested by teens, of all people. Wonder why...

Hm... Explain your logic further, then I might be arsed to comment. When I wake up, that is.

Fair enough, I was a bit vague. It goes (on a very simplistic level) something like this:

Birth > Develop motor functions > Taught boundaries, rules and social norms > Develops logic (7-12 > Develops self-thought (9-15)> Questions and defies aforementioned boundaries, rules and social norms (puberty) > Refines logic and self-thought (anywhere between 16-30) > Develops new boundaries, rules and social norms (19-35) > Confers with peers about such boundaries, rules and social norms (25-60) > Teaches boundaries, rules and social norms to children.


Again, that's very simple. And it can be mixed around, and some people go well outside the predicted age ranges. But that's simplicity for ya.

[SoulRiser]

Quote:"Teens have less judgement control"

Well, of course they have less judgement control: Nobody ever lets them USE their own judgement for anything, therefore they never get to practice using it, therefore they have less judgement control... DUH!

[AWOL]

SoulRiser Wrote:

Quote:"Teens have less judgement control"

Well, of course they have less judgement control: Nobody ever lets them USE their own judgement for anything, therefore they never get to practice using it, therefore they have less judgement control... DUH!

Uh... Soul, for once they have their facts right. But as I explained earlier in the topic, society wouldn't be the same without the impaired reasoning abilities of teenagers.

[Cosbydaf]

I don't see how having less judgment control correlates with questioning the rules of society.

[Ceiling Cat]

AWOL Wrote:impaired reasoning abilities of teenagers.

Ageist nigga plz.

[Absnt]

Quote:In the brain scan study, Blakemore's team looked at 19 teen girls and 20 women in London.

The teens were nearly 15 years old, on average, and attended a selective private school. The women were 28 years old, on average, and were university students or graduates.

Quote:In the second study presented today, Blakemore's team found that preadolescent (average age 8.6 years) and adolescent (average age, 13) boys and girls were slower than adults to answer questions about how a fictional character might feel in certain situations.

In that study, 74 preadolescents and adolescents were compared with 38 adults (average age 24). The researchers found the adults were quicker at choosing how a third person might feel in a described situation.

Of course they answered slower dumb ass, their 7-8 years old, and they've been trapped in a shitty school all their life.



Really? And we're supposed to take that seriously? The fuck kind of shitty study is that?

[AWOL]

Cosbydaf Wrote:I don't see how having less judgment control correlates with questioning the rules of society.

Yes, because having more judgement control totally helps questioning things.

The things is, all this is backed up with science.

Ceiling Cat Wrote:

AWOL Wrote:impaired reasoning abilities of teenagers.

Ageist nigga plz.

Read my fucking posts asshole, I'm supporting teenagers.

[Absnt]

Quote:The things is, all this is backed up with science.

The science they are using does not look reputable to me.

[AWOL]

Absentinsomniac Wrote:

Quote:The things is, all this is backed up with science.

The science they are using does not look reputable to me.

The studies showing that teens have impaired judgement control and that it does help society evolve dramatically are true.

Absentinsomniac Wrote:

Quote:In the brain scan study, Blakemore's team looked at 19 teen girls and 20 women in London.

The teens were nearly 15 years old, on average, and attended a selective private school. The women were 28 years old, on average, and were university students or graduates.

Quote:In the second study presented today, Blakemore's team found that preadolescent (average age 8.6 years) and adolescent (average age, 13) boys and girls were slower than adults to answer questions about how a fictional character might feel in certain situations.

In that study, 74 preadolescents and adolescents were compared with 38 adults (average age 24). The researchers found the adults were quicker at choosing how a third person might feel in a described situation.

Of course they answered slower dumb ass, their 7-8 years old, and they've been trapped in a shitty school all their life.



Really? And we're supposed to take that seriously? The fuck kind of shitty study is that?

That, however, is stupid. After all, teens don't get enough chances to interact with the real world to deal and comprehend emotions in a foreign environment.

[Desu]

AWOL Wrote:

Cosbydaf Wrote:I don't see how having less judgment control correlates with questioning the rules of society.

Yes, because having more judgement control totally helps questioning things.

The things is, all this is backed up with science.

Ceiling Cat Wrote:

AWOL Wrote:impaired reasoning abilities of teenagers.

Ageist nigga plz.

Read my fucking posts asshole, I'm supporting teenagers.

Son...



I am disappoint.

[Cosbydaf]

AWOL Wrote:Yes, because having more judgement control totally helps questioning things.

Roll your eyes all you want, I still don't see what relation there is between having enough self control to refrain from doing something stupid and questioning a bullshit rule when you see one, and you don't seem to want to explain it.

[AWOL]

Michio Wrote:Son...



I am disappoint.

Maybe I should just stop trying. The moment I start even slightly saying that teenagers aren't complete fuckwits you guys rage at me.

[Desu]

AWOL Wrote:

Michio Wrote:Son...



I am disappoint.

Maybe I should just stop trying. The moment I start even slightly saying that teenagers aren't complete fuckwits you guys rage at me.

Lol.

TROLL SUCCESSFUL

[Ceiling Cat]

Lol, internet.

[AWOL]

Michio Wrote:

AWOL Wrote:

Michio Wrote:Son...



I am disappoint.

Maybe I should just stop trying. The moment I start even slightly saying that teenagers aren't complete fuckwits you guys rage at me.

Lol.

TROLL SUCCESSFUL

I knew it was a troll. I selected your comment because it summed up everyone else's (serious) posts.

[Absnt]

AWOL Wrote:I knew it was a troll. I selected your comment because it summed up everyone else's (serious) posts.