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The Lady, or the Tiger?
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The Lady, or the Tiger?

We read this short story, The Lady, or the Tiger? If you've read it before, skip to the fourth paragraph.

Basically, it talks about a princess who loved this peasant boy, and when the king finds out, the boy goes through a "trial". This trail basically consists of "Pick a door, any door. Oh, and one has a savage tiger on the other end... but if you're innocent, God will save you, so...meh." Behind the other door was a girl that he would marry immediately after the trial, if he picked the right door (no way out of this, it's set in stone). This girl happened to be a woman the princess despised with every fiber of her being. So, she knows which door the tiger is behind, and when the boy looks at her as if to say "Which one?" She makes a gesture to her right. No one was aware of the transaction.

But, the story stops right before he opens the right door. And it asks which she chose to lead him to, the Lady or the Tiger.

In class we did a sort of poll to see what we thought she picked... and I have to say, humanity is more fucked up than even I imagined. Four people out of 28 or so people, said that she chose to lead him to the tiger. Umm... what? I didn't even think of that as an option, as even the beginning of a possibility. Remember, that their love was described as passionate, and real. Personally, if I loved someone, I'd rather see him happy, or at least alive, rather than... y'know... torn to pieces by a hungry tiger.

The author never did say what she picked in the end, and he successfully managed to take it to his grave (Even after a sequel, which was equally mindfuck-y). But, he did say that it was a hard decision for her.

Also, I'd like to add, the "mathematical" answer
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The Lady and the Tiger: Answer

Here is the answer to the lady and the tiger puzzle: the prince should pick the other door. If he sticks with the first door he picked, he has a 1/3 chance of finding the princess behind it. If he picks the other door, his chances double to 2/3.

Don't feel bad if you didnt quite get the answer. Many mathematicians didn't get it right when a version of this problem appeared in Parade magazine in 1990. The answer is a little counter-intuitive. Read on for an explanation.
Tigers, Collapsing Probabilities, and the Monty Hall problem

There are three possible scenarios for the prince from the very start: either the princess is behind the first door (1/3 chance), the second door (1/3 chance) or the 3rd door (1/3 chance). Once the prince picks a door for the first time though, the king then reveals a tiger from one of the other two doors -- so these two unpicked doors collapse into one unpicked door (minus the tiger). The two doors each had a 1/3 chance of having the princess behind them, so together thats 2/3 chance now. Think about it for a bit and it makes sense.

Another way to consider the puzzle is imagine there were 1000 doors, with 999 tigers and one princess. The prince picks one door, and the king then reveals tigers behind 998 of the other 999 doors, leaving the prince with two choices: his original pick, or the one door left out of 999. Clearly, the prince would not want to open his original pick.

An even simpler explanation: Before the King reveals anything behind any of the three doors, there is obviously a 1/3 chance that the prince picks the correct door at the start. Since the King does not do anything to affect what is behind the door that the prince first picked, there must always be a 1/3 chance that the princess is behind this door. Therefore, after the King reduces the number of doors to just two, there has to be a 2/3 chance the princess is behind the other door -- since the probabalities must add to 1.

A variant of this problem first appeared in in Martin Gardner's Mathematical Games column in Scientific American in 1959. For a full explanation see the Monty Hall problem.
^ tl;dr (for hidden text): Once again, mathematicians think everything on earth is mathematical sequence and probability, devoid of all emotion... plus they forgot to take into account that there is no third door, so they fail at life.

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Re: The Lady, or the Tiger?

Lol, I kept wondering through the explaination - what third door?

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Re: The Lady, or the Tiger?

Two words: Mind. Fuck.

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Re: The Lady, or the Tiger?

+1

The sequel was about a prince that asked the same king as before to marry one of his court's wimminz. At first he was like Mad But then he was like "OKAY!" So, he blindfolded him and married him to a random woman, and then lined him up in front of 40 or so girls and said "THAR YOU GO! Your wife is somewhere around here. Oh, and if you pick the wrong one, it's OFF WITH YOUR HEAD! Have fun Biggrin " So, after awhile, one girl smiled, and one frowned. He realised that one of the two was his wife, and after a minute of thinking, picked the correct bride. The storyteller then said "Now, if you can tell me who he chose, then I will tell you which the princess lead the man to, the lady, or the tiger."

I raged and lol'd at the same time.

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