Fight Club

[Efs]

I've read the novel and watched the film. Both were amazing. But lets mainly talk about the film
Do you think there is a bit of Tyler Durden in all of us? I thought this movie was trying to tell us to keep a balance between the Tyler's life and the main character's consumerist life. But I'm slightly leaning towards Tyler Durden's views. This movie just blew me away...

[Absnt]

I've read the book and the movie, and I don't think I've really seen anything that compares to the movie since. Personally, I'm not one to discuss what the movie was about, for it was about a multitude of philosophical ideas, and emotions. Every time I watch it seems like it's about a different topic, while in reality, it's about a LOT of topics.

[Efs]

Absentinsomniac Wrote:I've read the book and the movie, and I don't think I've really seen anything that compares to the movie since. Personally, I'm not one to discuss what the movie was about, for it was about a multitude of philosophical ideas, and emotions. Every time I watch it seems like it's about a different topic, while in reality, it's about a LOT of topics.

Hmm sort of. But if you think about this...in reality all we do is Go to school - More school - Job - Buy shit - Have kids - Buy more shit - Die. And this movie was pretty much saying we are all just "Working to buy shit we don't need." I could go on and on if you want, but to me it's similar, if not, the same to reality.

[Thought Criminal]

Rules 1 & 2 n00b

[Efs]

Thought Criminal Wrote:Rules 1 & 2 n00b

Those rules are always broken, well in the film anyway...

[Thought Criminal]

Lol I'm kidding. And good point. They are always broken.

[SH☮TGUNHEⒶRT]

[Absnt]

Efstratios Prime Wrote:

Absentinsomniac Wrote:I've read the book and the movie, and I don't think I've really seen anything that compares to the movie since. Personally, I'm not one to discuss what the movie was about, for it was about a multitude of philosophical ideas, and emotions. Every time I watch it seems like it's about a different topic, while in reality, it's about a LOT of topics.

Hmm sort of. But if you think about this...in reality all we do is Go to school - More school - Job - Buy shit - Have kids - Buy more shit - Die. And this movie was pretty much saying we are all just "Working to buy shit we don't need." I could go on and on if you want, but to me it's similar, if not, the same to reality.

I won't debate you there... It does have a lot to do with reality. That's probably why it's so fucking good. Or something.

On a related note, I went to a fight club before.

[SH☮TGUNHEⒶRT]

You guys, I'm actually pretty dissapointed that this movie and book didn't start a revolution. What's it gonna take man, to get people movin'?

Rebecca Black will though.

[SaintVicious]

hatemylifeiwanttodie Wrote:You guys, I'm actually pretty dissapointed that this movie and book didn't start a revolution. What's it gonna take man, to get people movin'?

Rebecca Black will though.

Because its a movie not some sort of movement. Thats like us destroying machines because of terminator.

[SH☮TGUNHEⒶRT]

Comrade Wrote:

hatemylifeiwanttodie Wrote:You guys, I'm actually pretty dissapointed that this movie and book didn't start a revolution. What's it gonna take man, to get people movin'?

Rebecca Black will though.

Because its a movie not some sort of movement. Thats like us destroying machines because of terminator.

Yet, Rebecca Black gets everyone singing "Friday!".

Entertainment, does actually influence culture.

[SaintVicious]

hatemylifeiwanttodie Wrote:

Comrade Wrote:

hatemylifeiwanttodie Wrote:You guys, I'm actually pretty dissapointed that this movie and book didn't start a revolution. What's it gonna take man, to get people movin'?

Rebecca Black will though.

Because its a movie not some sort of movement. Thats like us destroying machines because of terminator.

Yet, Rebecca Black gets everyone singing "Friday!".

Entertainment, does actually influence culture.

Oh yea youre right its like that time me and some friends saw fight club then we blew up Visa.

[SH☮TGUNHEⒶRT]

Comrade Wrote:Oh yea youre right its like that time me and some friends saw fight club then we blew up Visa.

Okay :troll:

[psychopath]

What revolution? What would be the point/purpose?

This movie sucks, I was into it like 5 years ago but now I realise it's a fucking emo piece of crap. It's a bunch of psuedophilosophy.

[SH☮TGUNHEⒶRT]

I just so happened to go to barnes and nobles today and upon my browsing through George Orwell I asked a staff member if they were carrying the Fight Club, and he told me that it is a forbidden book because that's one of the books people always steal. ( Coincidentally I was planning on stealing it also)

[Absnt]

hatemylifeiwanttodie Wrote:I just so happened to go to barnes and nobles today and upon my browsing through George Orwell I asked a staff member if they were carrying the Fight Club, and he told me that it is a forbidden book because that's one of the books people always steal. ( Coincidentally I was planning on stealing it also)

lol.

I just got it off the internet... But I fail to see how not selling it solves the problem of theft.

[ErisQuodSum]

The movie's ending was stupid.

[Miller0700]

ErisQuodSum Wrote:The movie's ending was stupid.

I'm curious, why is it?

[SaintVicious]

Derchin Wrote:

ErisQuodSum Wrote:The movie's ending was stupid.

I'm curious, why is it?

they blew up buildings in one town. Wanna take a guess if the companies had that shit backed up? lolyes they didnt solve anything.

[Absnt]

Comrade Wrote:

Derchin Wrote:

ErisQuodSum Wrote:The movie's ending was stupid.

I'm curious, why is it?

they blew up buildings in one town. Wanna take a guess if the companies had that shit backed up? lolyes they didnt solve anything.

They had militant chapters in every major city in the U.S. This was explained. Each group, I'm sure, would of had their own plan to take out their own targets. Obviously things wouldn't change automatically, and yes, they probably would of been wiped out by counter-terrorist forces pretty quickly, but still. It was the 90's, and pre 9/11.

[Efs]

Absentinsomniac Wrote:

Comrade Wrote:

Derchin Wrote:I'm curious, why is it?

they blew up buildings in one town. Wanna take a guess if the companies had that shit backed up? lolyes they didnt solve anything.

They had militant chapters in every major city in the U.S. This was explained. Each group, I'm sure, would of had their own plan to take out their own targets. Obviously things wouldn't change automatically, and yes, they probably would of been wiped out by counter-terrorist forces pretty quickly, but still. It was the 90's, and pre 9/11.

Yeah it would've been way easier to get away with and do shit like that Pre 9/11. Now, especially with these damn white hats flowing around you can't do shit. But I thought Fight Club was inspiration, whether or not it was intentional, it was for me.

[Faby]

http://elenuial.livejournal.com/156813.html

[Efs]

Faby Wrote:http://elenuial.livejournal.com/156813.html

Quote:I could express my disgust about the fact that the one female character is nothing but a one-dimensional fuck-doll for the protagonist, essentially an ornament to his madness.

What's wrong with that? You don't like girls who like a lot of sex?

Quote: Equally bothersome is the idea that inside every person is a savage beast howling for inevitable release; I don't deny the primacy and power of emotions, especially darker ones, but the way the film approaches them is both simplistic and dangerous.

The way the film approaches them is quite interesting, yet realistic. I have had some moments in my life where I lash out. And I'm not talking about the yelling or pissed of kind, I'm talking about the times where you just say "FUCK EVERYTHING, FUCK LIFE" and go crazy.

Quote:"Fight Club" is basically saying that modern man does not understand the anima, that the greatest good is to see that evil, reject it, and then shoot yourself in the face to rid yourself of it. Self-destruction amidst greater destruction is the only way to master your desires. Dangerous, simplistic nihilism.

Species are destructive, it's the circle of life. Kill, reproduce, kill and so on. But in modern times, the "good" we see is very little, however visible it may be. And the evil is great, however invisible it may be.

Quote:And the idea of "mastery" is key to the whole affair: the idea that one must yoke their inner beast, that they should tame the world around, that the essential prime directive of the human effort is to "level up!" and amass more power until your ascendancy is unchallengeable. Western hogwash. And in the case of "Fight Club," perverted into an Ouroborous of nihilism and despair.

What's wrong with nihilism? And "one must yoke their inner beast, that they should tame the world around.." Well, that's half-right. It's not saying EVERYONE must be like this, but that it only take a few of us to sacrifice our lives in the consumerist world for this purpose. Quite simply, not everyone had to be apart of Fight Club to work, only a group of people did, so therefore your belief that the movie is telling us to all "yoke our inner beast" is wrong. Only a few will have to. It's like rage. You don't want an army of enraged people in an attack, there is no organization, it's good if some are raged (more the crazy ones haha), but the rest don't have to/shouldn't.

Quote:But masochistically whipping them until they submit (as delicious as that might sound), or, worse still, destroying myself to destroy them,

Ever heard of the word "sacrifice"? Some people need a whipping for them to submit. It's the art of winning.

Quote:"Fight Club" is just a destructive romp in a completely different philosophical direction, and while it's well made, and the bones of it resonate so well with so many in modern America, it will never resonate with me.

It's your opinion. And I respect that. But I think of Fight Club as a parallel universe, I think of it as a more extreme version of our world and therefore a more extreme way beating the elite. However it's the same idea. Rebellion.