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Why teenagers are growing up slowly.
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Why teenagers are growing up slowly.

http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/nurturesh...=obnetwork

Thought this might be interesting to some of you.
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Re: Why teenagers are growing up slowly.

Quote:Tim was pushing himself to success, when suddenly he dropped out to draw comic books.

I don't know whether they think this is a bad thing, or a good thing, even though this shows up later:

Quote:For others, exploring a passion without regard to its value to their college application.

So I'm getting mostly mixed reactions.

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Re: Why teenagers are growing up slowly.

I agree with it. We are being forced to do bullshit work while we should be out learning to do real jobs.

The article is a bit ageist because it hints at how "wrong" and "broken" the teenage attitude is, and how we need to be "fixed" by fixing high-schools. Another problem I have with it is that they might just try to force teens to get jobs because that might help us...

They are right about one of the causes of the problem. Not the solution. The solution to the problem is to give us equal rights to adults, and stop treating us like a different species or sub-humans, not to make us go to work.

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Re: Why teenagers are growing up slowly.

OMG MED STUDENT LAWL Wrote:As a med student, I need not have read the entire article. Growth rates are stalled in part to genetic patterns. Most men seek petite-short women, thus staunting their offsprings' growth.
Nice one smartass. I lol'd hard. Please oh please don't be a troll, because that's just fucking hilarious.

I love the article.

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Re: Why teenagers are growing up slowly.

After seeing the parts Faby quoted, I'm not going to bother with the whole article.

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Re: Why teenagers are growing up slowly.

Absentinsomniac Wrote:I agree with it. We are being forced to do bullshit work while we should be out learning to do real jobs.

The article is a bit ageist because it hints at how "wrong" and "broken" the teenage attitude is, and how we need to be "fixed" by fixing high-schools. Another problem I have with it is that they might just try to force teens to get jobs because that might help us...

They are right about one of the causes of the problem. Not the solution. The solution to the problem is to give us equal rights to adults, and stop treating us like a different species or sub-humans, not to make us go to work.

This is basically what I was gonna say.

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Fire Elf Wrote:After seeing the parts Faby quoted, I'm not going to bother with the whole article.

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Re: Why teenagers are growing up slowly.

Eh, I more or less agree with the article.

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Re: Why teenagers are growing up slowly.

Faby Wrote:Quote:
Tim was pushing himself to success, when suddenly he dropped out to draw comic books.


I don't know whether they think this is a bad thing, or a good thing, even though this shows up later:

I'm sure they see it as a good thing, as Tim was going out and expressing his individuality and learning from real life. I have a friend who is also aspiring to be a comic book artist, but she played it safe and finished school first, and then went on to study animation.

As for the article, I agree with it, but it sounds impractical to radically change teenagers' role in society. If they no longer have to go to school, they become unemployed members of society rather than the protected consumers they are today. I'm for gradual change, is all I'm saying.
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Yeah, I think they saw it as a good thing.

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genuine anarchist Wrote:
Faby Wrote:Quote:As for the article, I agree with it, but it sounds impractical to radically change teenagers' role in society. If they no longer have to go to school, they become unemployed members of society rather than the protected consumers they are today. I'm for gradual change, is all I'm saying.

Actually, the argument against this is that more people would be able to hire teenagers and the changes might affect society views of teenagers when they are actually prepared for the world which means more people can take younger kids seriously as they have practiced learning about the working field. There are plenty of argument against having people to go through school till they're legal such as the fact that they have a slower learning rate due to the effect of aging and the development of the brain (not saying they're incapable, but just with less potentials than younger people), and they are missing out a lot more on the real-world responsibilities if they haven't practiced doing it along with less potential recovery rate for those who suffered going through school which is part of why some there are some anti-schoolers trying to write things about school in order to get other people to try to realize it. I support the idea of having them going through school under their choice while real world responsibilities take in place. Gradual changes it is, but we shouldn't take too long on that or it might go downhill.

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Re: Why teenagers are growing up slowly.

I too am inclined to agree with this article. It echoes in a lot ways some of the things Gatto mentions:

"Theorists from Plato to Rousseau to our own Dr. Inglis knew that if children could be cloistered with other children, stripped of responsibility and independence, encouraged to develop only the trivializing emotions of greed, envy, jealousy, and fear, they would grow older but never truly grow up."

--From Gatto's "Against School" Essay

http://www.wesjones.com/gatto1.htm

If someone from Mars were to observe our schools for any significant amount of period, they would probably reach the same conclusion, however, since most people today have what is shamefully called a good 'education', people tend to be oblivious of this. Which is of course why there probably won't be any kind of revolution or meaningful change in the foreseeable future in our lifetimes, or even the centuries to come because as someone once said;"None are as hopelessly oppressed as those who falsely believe they are free".
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Re: Why teenagers are growing up slowly.

It's interesting thinking of that. the thought that teens before us were actually more mature because they had seen more shit. We grow up in the suburbs, The closest thing to violence we see is in movies and video games and on the news. If we had to tow our own damn weight, "Harvest those fucking crops or you starve over winter" you bet your sweet as most teens would be mature. there isn't any fight for survival, no "where will I get my food tomorrow" we are protected from all of the evils of the world and because of that we don't grow up.
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Re: Why teenagers are growing up slowly.

Thought Criminal Wrote:It's interesting thinking of that. the thought that teens before us were actually more mature because they had seen more shit. We grow up in the suburbs, The closest thing to violence we see is in movies and video games and on the news. If we had to tow our own damn weight, "Harvest those fucking crops or you starve over winter" you bet your sweet as most teens would be mature. there isn't any fight for survival, no "where will I get my food tomorrow" we are protected from all of the evils of the world and because of that we don't grow up.

Well people were much more capable back in those times.
Least not having a job wasn't to much of a drop off as it is now.

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