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Why should I give to the poor? I don't know them, and don't care about them. I like my material goods. I'm not going to oppress them, but I'm certainly not going to help them.

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AWOL Wrote:Why should I give to the poor? I don't know them, and don't care about them. I like my material goods. I'm not going to oppress them, but I'm certainly not going to help them.
It's not really "you" we're concerned with, it's the ultra-rich upper class that controls the vast majority of the world's resources. Owning a house and sufficient food isn't really oppression, but owning a massive company that millions of starving people are dependent on, is.

I think Buenaventura Durruti is a pretty cool guy. eh kills fascists and doesnt afraid of ruins.
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It has served us well, this thread of mine.
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AWOL Wrote:Why should I give to the poor? I don't know them, and don't care about them. I like my material goods. I'm not going to oppress them, but I'm certainly not going to help them.
It's not really "you" we're concerned with, it's the ultra-rich upper class that controls the vast majority of the world's resources. Owning a house and sufficient food isn't really oppression, but owning a massive company that millions of starving people are dependent on, is.

If the middle class pooled it's resources it'd have quite a lot more than the upper class. Every person counts.

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AWOL Wrote:
Rebelnerd Wrote:
AWOL Wrote:Why should I give to the poor? I don't know them, and don't care about them. I like my material goods. I'm not going to oppress them, but I'm certainly not going to help them.
It's not really "you" we're concerned with, it's the ultra-rich upper class that controls the vast majority of the world's resources. Owning a house and sufficient food isn't really oppression, but owning a massive company that millions of starving people are dependent on, is.

If the middle class pooled it's resources it'd have quite a lot more than the upper class. Every person counts.
No, that's the problem. They'd be actually far outnumbered.

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Ringmeister Wrote:If you're not poor you have no reason to take the stances you take, you have more resources, go give them to some poor family you might know, If you are saying the things you're saying, and are not speaking from personal experience, then you don't know shit about what you're talking about. However if you are poor, then what I've said is valid.

There it is again, you're telling me what I should be doing and not doing.

Personal experience? LMFAO. Oh I'm sorry, I haven't ever been homeless. I guess we all have to be homeless to talk about these matters, others what we say is unqualified.

Quote: then you're doing your part and have no reason to be so angry or outraged.

Yet again you think I'm outraged because of my personal experience. Dude, get it in your fucking head already. I'm not angry because I don't have 1000 PS3's. I'm angry because of other things. Because of injustice, which may not affect me directly, but I'm angry for the reason that there's injustice, that is all.

Imagine we're in WW2, what you're saying is like I shouldn't be angry as long as I'm not a jew or a direct victim of the war. That's so retarded on so many levels. And you know what? EVERYONE was affected by WW2, even if they weren't "victims". If there's injustice in my society then I have a right to be angry about it.

But I'll say it again, you have no idea who I am or what my sufferings are, so stop making so many fucking assumptions.
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Ceiling Cat Wrote:
AWOL Wrote:
Rebelnerd Wrote:It's not really "you" we're concerned with, it's the ultra-rich upper class that controls the vast majority of the world's resources. Owning a house and sufficient food isn't really oppression, but owning a massive company that millions of starving people are dependent on, is.

If the middle class pooled it's resources it'd have quite a lot more than the upper class. Every person counts.
No, that's the problem. They'd be actually far outnumbered.
Consider the numbers. There are a lot more people in the middle class than the upper class. If humanity could get past it's natural greed, we'd have a completely equal system in less than a decade.

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BobManPerson Wrote:It has served us well, this thread of mine.

Bobman your a crooked rich individual. Biggrin

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AWOL Wrote:
Rebelnerd Wrote:
AWOL Wrote:Why should I give to the poor? I don't know them, and don't care about them. I like my material goods. I'm not going to oppress them, but I'm certainly not going to help them.
It's not really "you" we're concerned with, it's the ultra-rich upper class that controls the vast majority of the world's resources. Owning a house and sufficient food isn't really oppression, but owning a massive company that millions of starving people are dependent on, is.

If the middle class pooled it's resources it'd have quite a lot more than the upper class. Every person counts.

That's not true. While they'd outnumber the upper class, and that counts for something, they wouldn't have as much wealth. It musn't be forgotten that we have 1% of the world's population controlling 90% of the wealth.

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BobManPerson Wrote:It has served us well, this thread of mine.

Bobman your a crooked rich individual. Biggrin

Funny thing is bobman isn't even part of the 1 percent controlling the 90 percent.

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HeartofShadows Wrote:
BobManPerson Wrote:It has served us well, this thread of mine.

Bobman your a crooked rich individual. Biggrin

Funny thing is bobman isn't even part of the 1 percent controlling the 90 percent.

Yeah but I like teasing him.

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Akai Wrote:
AWOL Wrote:
Rebelnerd Wrote:It's not really "you" we're concerned with, it's the ultra-rich upper class that controls the vast majority of the world's resources. Owning a house and sufficient food isn't really oppression, but owning a massive company that millions of starving people are dependent on, is.

If the middle class pooled it's resources it'd have quite a lot more than the upper class. Every person counts.

That's not true. While they'd outnumber the upper class, and that counts for something, they wouldn't have as much wealth. It musn't be forgotten that we have 1% of the world's population controlling 90% of the wealth.
If you have a television and a fridge, you're in the top 2% of the world, wealth wise.

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AWOL Wrote:If you have a television and a fridge, you're in the top 2% of the world, wealth wise.

And?

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AWOL Wrote:If you have a television and a fridge, you're in the top 2% of the world, wealth wise.

And?
1: It means that if you're willing to go without a new plasma LCD HDTV every week and you stop impulse buying, you can amass money pretty damn easily. If the middle class pooled it's resources, it really would have more resources than the upper class. Because we outnumber them by at least 20 to 1.

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Akai Wrote:
AWOL Wrote:If you have a television and a fridge, you're in the top 2% of the world, wealth wise.

And?
1: It means that if you're willing to go without a new plasma LCD HDTV every week and you stop impulse buying, you can amass money pretty damn easily. If the middle class pooled it's resources, it really would have more resources than the upper class. Because we outnumber them by at least 20 to 1.

If we're speaking on a global scale, the "middle class" you're referring to is merely a slightly lower part of the upper class.

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Akai Wrote:
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Akai Wrote:And?
1: It means that if you're willing to go without a new plasma LCD HDTV every week and you stop impulse buying, you can amass money pretty damn easily. If the middle class pooled it's resources, it really would have more resources than the upper class. Because we outnumber them by at least 20 to 1.

If we're speaking on a global scale, the "middle class" you're referring to is merely a slightly lower part of the upper class.
I'm referring to the developed countries.

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AWOL Wrote:I'm referring to the developed countries.

Then that is the problem with our disagreement, since as a Marxist I tend to look at issues on an international level.

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Akai Wrote:as a Marxist I tend to
Wow.

I knew some you guys don't exactly like capitalism, but I never thought you would come out as a full-blown communist.
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Akai Wrote:as a Marxist I tend to
Wow.

I knew you guys don't exactly like capitalism, but I never thought you would come out as a full-blown communist.

You thought my avatar and title were just for show? I'm not the only communist here, either, so I don't get why you seem so surprised.

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Akai Wrote:as a Marxist I tend to
Wow.

I knew you guys don't exactly like capitalism, but I never thought you would come out as a full-blown communist.

Capitalist scum.. Laugh

Bobman stop grouping everybody here together.

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Akai Wrote:as a Marxist I tend to
Wow.

I knew you guys don't exactly like capitalism, but I never thought you would come out as a full-blown communist.
He's got a hammer and sickle for his avatar. Apparently Captain Obvious does not work for Joe McCarthy.

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Akai Wrote:as a Marxist I tend to
Wow.

I knew you guys don't exactly like capitalism, but I never thought you would come out as a full-blown communist.

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HeartofShadows Wrote:Bobman stop grouping everybody here together.
Fixed my post to be more politically correct.
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BobManPerson Wrote:
HeartofShadows Wrote:Bobman stop grouping everybody here together.
Fixed my post to be more politically correct.

Don't like capitalism much but I don't have any love for communism either although it has its perks.

All the systems fail in one way or another.

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Marxism is not just a political philosophy. Marxism is a theory of history.

You don't even know what Marxism is, Bobmanperson. You shouldn't even be typing.

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Comrade Swift Wrote:Marxism is not just a political philosophy. Marxism is a theory of history.

You don't even know what Marxism is, Bobmanperson. You shouldn't even be typing.

He has been watching fox news.

Anyone that disses rich people is apparently a filthy commie to him.

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You're all showing prime examples of logical fallacies. Take it out on the idea, not the person.

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AWOL Wrote:
Akai Wrote:
AWOL Wrote:If you have a television and a fridge, you're in the top 2% of the world, wealth wise.

And?
1: It means that if you're willing to go without a new plasma LCD HDTV every week and you stop impulse buying, you can amass money pretty damn easily. If the middle class pooled it's resources, it really would have more resources than the upper class. Because we outnumber them by at least 20 to 1.
Isn't it something like the top 1 percent control like, 90 percent of the wealth? I don't think that whole "pool our resources" thing would work.
Oh wait, I think I stand corrected.

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AWOL Wrote:
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AWOL Wrote:1: It means that if you're willing to go without a new plasma LCD HDTV every week and you stop impulse buying, you can amass money pretty damn easily. If the middle class pooled it's resources, it really would have more resources than the upper class. Because we outnumber them by at least 20 to 1.
Isn't it something like the top 1 percent control like, 90 percent of the wealth? I don't think that whole "pool our resources" thing would work.
Oh wait, I think I stand corrected.
I'm referring to the developed countries.
Ohwait, shit. Yeah. You stand corrected.

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Yeah I do.

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