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A little heartless, wouldn't you say? Honestly, it depends, there are some people that just shouldn't be here. Too painful for everyone involved. Minor problems though, I see no reason to kill them.

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I've posted the shit I think is execution-worthy. Things like Down Syndrome and Autism. There is no excuse for keeping them alive.

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AWOL Wrote:Not my point at all. If you're going to be an absolute fucking moron from birth, or have something wrong with the structure of genetics, you should die.

If that's not your point then why are you arguing with my argument.

Quote:This is called unnatural selection. Natural selection can go fuck itself.

If you really understood evolution you wouldn't bother with this "unnatural selection". For the last fucking time, if an organism is alive, then IT'S JUSTIFIED ITS OWN EXISTENCE. Evolution doesn't always go in one direction, there's a possibility an environment can favour lower intelligence.

If a retard is alive, he/she justifies their own existence in an evolutionary sense. Technology and carers are part of the retard's environment.

I'm sick of this "natural selection" bullshit. You just don't like retards. Fucking admit it. Don't try to justify it with some psuedoscience BS.
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Hey, I know an autistic kid. My best friends sister, actually.

I think if the person is in physical pain, they should be put down.

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AWOL Wrote:Things like Down Syndrome and Autism. There is no excuse for keeping them alive.

Maybe we shouldn't keep you alive? After all, you don't want to contribute to society, want everyone dead etc etc. Sounds like retards are less of a strain on society than you are.
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So, AWOL, if someone isn't physically and mentally perfect they deserve to die?

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If that was true then everyone should di-... Wait... Yes, everyone should die, but no that's not my point. No one's perfect. But these people are fucked up beyond reason and should die.

Psychopath, obviously you don't understand what unnatural selection is. It's people going 'right, you die, you die, you die... You're good to go, come on over to the good side'. Evolution is incredibly slow and ineffective, especially considering that since humanity is now so diverse that we get a new species with every single birth.

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Again, life isn't about surviving. It's about living. It's called "living life" for a goddamn reason.

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Quote:But these people are fucked up beyond reason and should die.

So you believe in a higher power? Or you think somehow are qualified to choose who lives? Wtf is this "should die" crap?

AWOL Wrote:Psychopath, obviously you don't understand what unnatural selection is. It's people going 'right, you die, you die, you die... You're good to go, come on over to the good side'. Evolution is incredibly slow and ineffective, especially considering that since humanity is now so diverse that we get a new species with every single birth.

Let me tell you something. A secret. There is no such thing as unnatural selection. There is only natural selection. When a baby is born it is looked after by its parents. If it wasn't it would die. Would you call that "unnatural selection"?

If a retard is born into a society that has technology and prosperity, then it is sufficiently adapted to its environment to survive. The retard might not survive elsewhere, but that's a different environment. Just like some plants only survive in some climates.

A retard can be more adapted than you are, given the right environment. A retard can be superior to you. Because it's all dependent on the environment. If an environment favoured those with an IQ below 20, then the retards would survive and you wouldn't, they would be "superior" to you.

Maybe those retards would be dead if nobody looked after them, but PEOPLE DO LOOK AFTER THEM. So whine all you like about retards but if they're alive then that means they're fit enough to survive. There's no but's and if's and should's.
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In the future we may live in a world where a large percentage of people are mentally retarded; being retarded is no longer disadvantageous.
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I have Asperger's. Does that mean I should die? Don't get me wrong, I agree with you, but...
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Raikuron Wrote:I have Asperger's. Does that mean I should die? Don't get me wrong, I agree with you, but...
Wait, so you believe you should die?

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No.
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Whilst I agree, I'd probably get flamed for just 'if you get in an accident and damage your spine, go die in a fire'. At the very least, the people who are fucked up from birth are a pain to everybody and don't have a tragic story along with it. Oh, you had a third foot protruding from your head since birth? That's so sad! Fuck that. You're a freak. Die.[/quote]

How is being fucked up from birth not a tragic story?

Okay then.
Who decides? What is a deformity that deserves death?
Physical deformities? Mental Deformities?
What about a predisposition to some disease? If we found out that gene, should we kill those who have it?
What about skin color? People of different skin tone are not necessary now-we can monitor our environment. And it just causes social tension- so death.
Homosexuality- the majority don't agree with it. It causes more social tension. Abort all babies with "the gay gene."
Gender- are there now too many females or males? Only allow the other gender to live.

Welcome the master race- genetically engineered to benefit society in the way the government believes necessary. The slippery slope may be just that, an illogical fear. But when you think about who'd have the power to end these peoples' lives-most likely the government- I think that's actually something to be avoided.

I think for now, it's better for us to avoid killing 'undesirables'. Yes, having a severely disabled child can take things away from the parents' lives, but not from society overall, AND ITS STILL THEIR CHIlD. Unless you're looking at it pragmatically and soullessly, with humans as mere products for society to gain from. In that case, there's a great manual called A Brave New World by Aldous Huxley- might want to look it up.


Did some mentally retarded child beat you up in elementary school?

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NowhereWoman Wrote:
AWOL Wrote:Whilst I agree, I'd probably get flamed for just 'if you get in an accident and damage your spine, go die in a fire'. At the very least, the people who are fucked up from birth are a pain to everybody and don't have a tragic story along with it. Oh, you had a third foot protruding from your head since birth? That's so sad! Fuck that. You're a freak. Die.

How is being fucked up from birth not a tragic story?

Okay then.
Who decides? What is a deformity that deserves death?
Physical deformities? Mental Deformities?
What about a predisposition to some disease? If we found out that gene, should we kill those who have it?
What about skin color? People of different skin tone are not necessary now-we can monitor our environment. And it just causes social tension- so death.
Homosexuality- the majority don't agree with it. It causes more social tension. Abort all babies with "the gay gene."
Gender- are there now too many females or males? Only allow the other gender to live.

Welcome the master race- genetically engineered to benefit society in the way the government believes necessary. The slippery slope may be just that, an illogical fear. But when you think about who'd have the power to end these peoples' lives-most likely the government- I think that's actually something to be avoided.

I think for now, it's better for us to avoid killing 'undesirables'. Yes, having a severely disabled child can take things away from the parents' lives, but not from society overall, AND ITS STILL THEIR CHILD. Unless you're looking at it pragmatically and soullessly, with humans as mere products for society to gain from. In that case, there's a great manual called A Brave New World by Aldous Huxley- might want to look it up.


Did some mentally retarded child beat you up in elementary school?
This.

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BobManPerson Wrote:In the future we may live in a world where a large percentage of people are mentally retarded; being retarded is no longer disadvantageous.
Yeah, actually, it still is.
NowhereWoman Wrote:
AWOL Wrote:Whilst I agree, I'd probably get flamed for just 'if you get in an accident and damage your spine, go die in a fire'. At the very least, the people who are fucked up from birth are a pain to everybody and don't have a tragic story along with it. Oh, you had a third foot protruding from your head since birth? That's so sad! Fuck that. You're a freak. Die.

How is being fucked up from birth not a tragic story?
Because it's genetic, or some fuck up on the parent's part. If it's the latter, let them decide.
Okay then.
Who decides? What is a deformity that deserves death? Scientists. Anything genetic.
Physical deformities? Mental Deformities? 'Anything genetic'
What about a predisposition to some disease? If we found out that gene, should we kill those who have it? Yes.
What about skin color? People of different skin tone are not necessary now-we can monitor our environment. And it just causes social tension- so death. Lolwat? Race doesn't mean jack shit. There's slight differences throughout all the races, but nothing nearly so major. They all have the same potential, some just have a lower natural minimum.
Homosexuality- the majority don't agree with it. It causes more social tension. Abort all babies with "the gay gene." You're a moron. The 'gay gene'? No one, and I mean no one, has made any advancement into the 'nature vs. nurture' argument in this one.
Gender- are there now too many females or males? Only allow the other gender to live. This is just fucking moronic and I'm not going to answer it.

Welcome the master race- genetically engineered to benefit society in the way the government believes necessary. The slippery slope may be just that, an illogical fear. But when you think about who'd have the power to end these peoples' lives-most likely the government- I think that's actually something to be avoided. Based on science, you jackass. Not the government.

I think for now, it's better for us to avoid killing 'undesirables'. Yes, having a severely disabled child can take things away from the parents' lives, but not from society overall, AND ITS STILL THEIR CHIlD. Unless you're looking at it pragmatically and soullessly, with humans as mere products for society to gain from. In that case, there's a great manual called A Brave New World by Aldous Huxley- might want to look it up. Souls do not exist. I've read Brave New World. That's an entirely different story. We're not scientifically producing beneficial humans, we're killing off humans who have genetic diseases.


Did some mentally retarded child beat you up in elementary school?

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