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Forum downtime (aka WTF happened)
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SoulRiser
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Forum downtime (aka WTF happened)
L went and mass-deleted over 9000 (actually over 100k) posts. Why? Well, here's what he said about it:
Quote:[22:37:44] <L> REASON WHY I DID THIS MONSTORSITY
[22:37:50] <L> 1) I had a shitty day
[22:37:55] <|55555|> He was hacked by Justin.
[22:37:56] <L> 2) I was bored
[22:37:58] <|55555|> Shutup L.
[22:38:00] <L> But, more importantly
[22:38:11] <L> Nah, 5 I gotta do this
[22:38:16] <|55555|> Motion to throw out Ls statements on the basis he is high.
[22:38:18] <L> 1) PROTEST
[22:38:26] <SoulRiser> don't you mean 3) ?
[22:38:36] * &HeartofShadows hugs Sick_silent
[22:38:44] <L> Well, the first two were personally, I figured to make another lsit
[22:39:02] <L> LOL MY BAD PERSONAL
[22:39:03] <SoulRiser> ah.
[22:39:13] <L> But srsly, jaseklfasdhjklfhsdjkhsda
[22:39:16] <&maxh> WHAT THE FUCK?
[22:39:22] <&maxh> IT IS SUMMER VACATION.
[22:39:25] <&Sick_Silent> Seizure much?
[22:39:35] <L> 2) I started actually moderating the forum, but then I was all like yo man what up
[22:39:37] <&maxh> I HAVE HAD NO LESS THAN FIVE SCHOOL PHONE CALLS TODAY.
[22:39:54] <SoulRiser> i think you may have overmoderated it a bit.
[22:39:54] <|55555|> (4:34:48 PM) |55555|: Motion to throw out Ls statements on the basis he is high.
[22:39:55] <L> By that I mean, I started moderating the forum, and then I realized how shitty it was so I deleted everything
[22:39:57] <SoulRiser> just a teeny bit.
[22:40:02] <&maxh> LOL.
[22:40:13] <L> xD My bad
[22:40:24] <L> Well, the admins and moderators was like, all up in the forum 'n shit
[22:40:36] <&HeartofShadows> !k L For the lulz!
[22:40:45] <L> FOR TEH LULZ
[22:40:45] <&HeartofShadows> damn commands
[22:40:52] <&maxh> HeartofShadows: It's .k
[22:40:54] <&Sick_Silent> Try /kick
[22:40:56] <&maxh> Or that.
[22:41:00] <&Sick_Silent> (.k won
[22:41:00] <&HeartofShadows> .k L for the lulz
[22:41:02] <&Sick_Silent> 't work)
[22:41:06] <&HeartofShadows> nope
[22:41:08] »» L was kicked by HeartofShadows [HeartofShadows]
So anyway, then I was gonna go restore a backup, only to realize that my auto-backup system hadn't been making backups properly all this time. So the latest backup I had that would actually WORK was from 20 June. That's when I went all "fuck it, I'll do this later".
Auto-backup system is now fixed so at least that won't happen again. L is no longer a mod. And Leon Kinotolian is now a mod.
That's pretty much it.
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Leon Kinotolian
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Huh... Apparently, I am a mod. Righteous. Now to get accustomed to that lovely control panel...
inb4 RAGE at my promotion
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welcome to the illuminati, bro
woah dude
dude woah
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Hooray! *hugs SS* IT'S BAAAAACK
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Pieman Wrote:Hooray! *hugs SS* IT'S BAAAAACK
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I want to hang L by his testicles and light him on fire!
Also Yay SS is back!
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PROTIP: making everyone mods is a pretty bad idea dawg
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BaronVonStrangle Wrote:PROTIP: making everyone mods is a pretty bad idea dawg
Words of wisdom.
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Yeah we need LESS mods, not more.
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OH WELL WHO CARES ABOUT MODS
Yeah, as long as L isn't a mod anymore everything's okay with me. Glad to see it back, it feels like it's been months or something.
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I figured out SS was down and asked L about it he fessed up. I found it kind of amusing actually.
Also I'm on the boat with 5 we need less mods. The reason we have so many mods is because of the problem we had with spambots back in the early days. I think it would be a good Idea to either throw some mods on the chopping block or simply not replace them as they resign/get de-moded.
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Quote:Yeah we need LESS mods, not more.
Yep. As nice as it is to have a semi-trusting environment where loads of people can be mods and have it work out OK, it really isn't necessary. The vast majority of mods never really do anything anyway. So there's no point in having people be mods if they aren't gonna do something useful with it. Maybe I'll even consider de-modding people who haven't used their powa in a while. But that would involve checking up in the logs so I probably won't bother.
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Just don't create more mods when one gets the boot. Simple fair way in my opinion.
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SoulRiser Wrote:Quote:Yeah we need LESS mods, not more.
Yep. As nice as it is to have a semi-trusting environment where loads of people can be mods and have it work out OK, it really isn't necessary. The vast majority of mods never really do anything anyway. So there's no point in having people be mods if they aren't gonna do something useful with it. Maybe I'll even consider de-modding people who haven't used their powa in a while. But that would involve checking up in the logs so I probably won't bother.
Just demod people that don't bother to log in anymore. If somebody hasn't been on in 3 months, they're just a security risk.
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That's easy:
Lifeischeese
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HeartofShadows Wrote:BaronVonStrangle Wrote:PROTIP: making everyone mods is a pretty bad idea dawg
Words of wisdom.
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im happy to see everyone back. if the forum was shit, then why did L mess up everything else?
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If you de-mod active members there will be fighting. I think the best way to go would be to de-mod inactive members and not replace them.
Oh, and I get the feeling some of the mods are afraid to use their powers due to the anti-censorship issue. Perhaps some more guidelines or maybe even just the enforcement of already existing guidelines could be useful.
Oh, and this whole thing wasn't that big of an issue, it's not like anything serious was lost... This doesn't require radical change, just a few adjustments. If a few shitstorms occur every once in a while in exchange for equality and freedom on the forums than who gives a shit?
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jose Wrote:im happy to see everyone back. if the forum was shit, then why did L mess up everything else?
I say he was high through the whole thing and didn't give a rat's ass. Why do I say this? He once got high and hit on another dude over Skype rather profanely and crudely. It was hilarious.
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Deadmin:
Hanny
Mortuus
lifeischeese
Demod:
lifeischeese
Hanny
Mortuus
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|55555| Wrote:Hanny
Rationale?
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Leon Kinotolian Wrote:jose Wrote:im happy to see everyone back. if the forum was shit, then why did L mess up everything else?
I say he was high through the whole thing and didn't give a rat's ass. Why do I say this? He once got high and hit on another dude over Skype rather profanely and crudely. It was hilarious.
Oh lol. Doth thou have recording? That would be epic. Absentinsomniac Wrote:Newtown Wrote:|55555| Wrote:Hanny
Rationale?
Butthurt.
Fix't.
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|55555| Wrote:Deadmin:
Hanny
Mortuus
lifeischeese
Demod:
lifeischeese
Hanny
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Puchiko
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CrayolaColours Wrote:Absentinsomniac Wrote:Newtown Wrote:Rationale?
Butthurt.
Fix't.
Hannah did quit. I like her but if she isn't going to use her account it's just a security issue.
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Actually no. Me and Hanny are ok now. If she were active I would be all for it.
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yay SS is back
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|55555| Wrote:Actually no. Me and Hanny are ok now. If she were active I would be all for it.
Ah. Yes, I do agree with demoding and deadmining inactive people.
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Nowhere in the SS bill of rights does it say being a mod is a right, so DEMOD DEMOD DEMOD
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SoulRiser Wrote:L went and mass-deleted over 9000 (actually over 100k) posts.
OVER NINE THOUSAAAAANNND!!!!
Sorry, had to do it.
Well, SS is back, L got put down like a diseased ball tearing whore monster, and now we live happily ever after.
Ceeeelebrate good times, come on!
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How the fuck was L able to mass-delete 100k posts anyway?
woah dude
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