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RE: Fuck Edgenuity/E2020

Quote:the questions are designed to trick you and not to test your understanding,

Yes. And then when you miss one question it's programmed to put you through about 20 minutes of review.

I was talking to a sixth grader recently and she was complaining that one of her teachers would only accept multiple choice answers but she prefers essay style answers so she can express what she knows without confinement (my words but that's what she was getting at). She was also talking about how they have to finish this and that or do it online during the summer. When I told her I passed everybody and let my students redesign any assessment to essay or just talking to me about it or even simply not doing it or doing something else entirely she couldn't believe it. She was like can you do that? I told her I'm the teacher and the grades are at my discretion and there's nothing in my contract that says I have to justify the grades a give by any certain criteria. I'm not sure what my point is but if everything wasn't so rigid I probably wouldn't go so far out on a limb to be freewheeling about it. Other teachers talk about teaching "accountability". How about teaching them you don't HAVE to wield power over people just because you can? Of course, almost everything I try to do is a cacophonous disaster. But this is public school, it's nothing but disaster. For some of them they might see that at least I'm trying to provide them with a different sort of disaster.

Analogist, in another thread you mentioned that trying to implement the philosophy of Holt in my classroom was just weird and not good for anybody. I felt like that was an insightful and powerful characterization. I know there's truth in that but it's not lost on all my students that what I'm really doing is trying to say hey there's got to be some other way. So they're stuck in my failing experiment? I still get students who say very positive things about the experience. It's not nearly as different as I would want it to be but it's as different as I can make it. At least it's not the exact same format as every other teacher they have.

And Angry B wouldn't have to make up my class on a computer even if he chose to ignore me or even be hostile.

The power structure sucks. I know I'm a part of it but I've been paying my rent and I really am a change of pace to the degree I can be.

If you want to be a different fish, you've got to jump out of the school.

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05-29-2017 07:39 PM
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Fuck Edgenuity/E2020 - An_Angry_Bastard - 05-24-2017, 02:42 AM
Fuck Edgenuity/E2020 - James Comey - 05-24-2017, 04:03 AM
RE: Fuck Edgenuity/E2020 - the Analogist - 05-29-2017, 02:12 PM
RE: Fuck Edgenuity/E2020 - TheCancer - 05-29-2017 07:39 PM
RE: Fuck Edgenuity/E2020 - the Analogist - 05-30-2017, 11:32 AM
RE: Fuck Edgenuity/E2020 - TheCancer - 05-30-2017, 02:53 PM
RE: Fuck Edgenuity/E2020 - the Analogist - 05-30-2017, 06:24 PM
RE: Fuck Edgenuity/E2020 - TheCancer - 05-30-2017, 09:06 PM
RE: Fuck Edgenuity/E2020 - the Analogist - 05-31-2017, 12:03 AM
RE: Fuck Edgenuity/E2020 - TheCancer - 05-31-2017, 02:58 AM
RE: Fuck Edgenuity/E2020 - the Analogist - 05-31-2017, 05:36 AM
RE: Fuck Edgenuity/E2020 - the Analogist - 05-31-2017, 05:58 AM
RE: Fuck Edgenuity/E2020 - TheCancer - 05-31-2017, 06:20 AM
Fuck Edgenuity/E2020 - HawkbitAlpha - 05-31-2017, 09:11 AM

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